Sleeping bag liners

Not sure on those bags but I use a ME Dewline down bag
(rated to -5). I use the bag from about now until the end of
Sept without any problems but I am quite a warm sleeper. But
there have been times at the extremes of this period that I
wished I had a warmer bag!! I now have a ME Snowline as well
now. If its only occasional 3 season use you could just put
some extra clothes and a hat on a live with it. If not I
would go for the -12 as its easier to cool down than warm up
in a sleeping bag.

Just my thoughts, someone else will probably say the
opposite!!

Cheers

Andy

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I hope to get a down sleeping bag (I'm looking at ME
classic 500 or 750). I'd like to use a silk liner (to cut
down on cleaning) and wondered if the 500 + silk liner
would be adequate for 3 season use in the UK. How much
would it add to the rating of the bag? ME quotes -5C and
-12C for the 500 and 750 respectively. Any advice much
appreciated. Thanks.

Just another thing if its occasional three season use you
could get a fleece liner as that will add 1/2 to 1 season
onto the bag.

Cheers

Andy

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Not sure on those bags but I use a ME Dewline down bag
(rated to -5). I

use

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the bag from about now until the end of Sept without any
problems but I am quite a warm sleeper. But there have
been times at the extremes of this period that I wished I
had a warmer bag!! I now have a ME Snowline as well now.
If its only occasional 3 season use you could just put
some extra clothes and a hat on a live with it. If not I
would go for the -12 as its easier to cool down than warm
up in a sleeping bag.

Just my thoughts, someone else will probably say the
opposite!!

Cheers

Andy

"Dean" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I hope to get a down sleeping bag (I'm looking at ME
classic 500 or

750).

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I'd like to use a silk liner (to cut down on cleaning)
and wondered if

the

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500 + silk liner would be adequate for 3 season use in
the UK. How much would it add to the rating of the bag?
ME quotes -5C and -12C for the

500

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and 750 respectively. Any advice much appreciated.
Thanks.

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Just another thing if its occasional three season use you
could get a

fleece

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liner as that will add 1/2 to 1 season onto the bag.

Either silk or fleece liners are about the easiest things to
sew yourself, you could just make one that suits exactly, or
make several. Silk is a lot cheaper by the yard than the
price of liners would make you believe.
--
Mark South Citizen of the World, Denizen of the Net <<Tiens!
Ce poulet a une grenade!

Mark South said:

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Just another thing if its occasional three season use you
could get a

fleece

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liner as that will add 1/2 to 1 season onto the bag.

Either silk or fleece liners are about the easiest things
to sew yourself, you could just make one that suits
exactly, or make several. Silk is a lot cheaper by the yard
than the price of liners would make you believe.

For silk liners I have this link filed away
jagbags.co.nzjagbags.co.nzOpen ↗

I must get round to doing something about it.
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the
"Westminster Gasworks"

Phil Cook said:

On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 21:09:00 +0100, Mark South wrote:

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Just another thing if its occasional three season use
you could get a

fleece

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liner as that will add 1/2 to 1 season onto the bag.

Will a silk liner add much to the bags rating?

Quoted message said:

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Either silk or fleece liners are about the easiest things
to sew yourself, you could just make one that suits
exactly, or make several. Silk is a lot cheaper by the
yard than the price of liners would make you believe.

For silk liners I have this link filed away
jagbags.co.nzjagbags.co.nzOpen ↗

I must get round to doing something about it.

I also found an nz link for silk liners.
nznature.co.nz5 SIL 851Open ↗ Is silk worm
food cheaper down there? ;-)

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Phil Cook said:

On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 21:09:00 +0100, Mark South wrote:

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> Just another thing if its occasional three season use
> you could get a
fleece
> liner as that will add 1/2 to 1 season onto the bag.

Will a silk liner add much to the bags rating?

They can be surprisingly snuggly.

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Either silk or fleece liners are about the easiest
things to sew

yourself,

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you could just make one that suits exactly, or make
several. Silk is a

lot

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cheaper by the yard than the price of liners would make
you believe.

For silk liners I have this link filed away
jagbags.co.nzjagbags.co.nzOpen ↗

I must get round to doing something about it.

I also found an nz link for silk liners.
nznature.co.nz5 SIL 851Open ↗ Is silk
worm food cheaper down there? ;-)

Yes. Mulberry trees like the climate in temperate parts of
Australia, NZ, and South Africa. Schoolkids in those places
often grow silk for a school project or whatever.
--
Mark South Citizen of the World, Denizen of the Net <<Tiens!
Ce poulet a une grenade!

Dean <[email hidden]> wrote

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Phil Cook said:

On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 21:09:00 +0100, Mark South wrote:

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> Just another thing if its occasional three season use
> you could get a
fleece
> liner as that will add 1/2 to 1 season onto the bag.

Will a silk liner add much to the bags rating?

It will if you are sharing it with a g/friend!

(Although they do reduce the toe-grip).
--
Gordon

Do you actually need a liner with those bags? I have an
ME500 and sleep in it no problem mid winter (well in a snow
hole anyway), but then I do stay just about fully dressed.
The ME500 is classed as a 3 season anyway, so it depends on
whether you sleep warm or cold.

In answer to your question, yes they do make a difference,
although not as much as fleece liners (so I have been told)
which will add a few degrees on to your bag rating. Either
way to increase the rating of say the ME500 to an ME750 by
using liners, silk or fleece, would end up with you carrying
more weight and bulk (and probably cost) than if you just
bought and used the ME750.

If, as you say, you just want to use a silk liner to reduce
cleaning of your down bag then I would suggest going the bag
with the rating you need and just buying the lightest and
most compact liner you can.

Chris
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wildsnowdonia.co.ukwildsnowdonia.co.ukOpen ↗ - Snowdonia & Its' Mountains
/ Prints Now Available!! / Guided treks in the Lake District
"Dean" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I hope to get a down sleeping bag (I'm looking at ME
classic 500 or 750). I'd like to use a silk liner (to cut
down on cleaning) and wondered if the 500 + silk liner
would be adequate for 3 season use in the UK. How much
would it add to the rating of the bag? ME quotes -5C and
-12C for the 500 and 750 respectively. Any advice much
appreciated. Thanks.

Quoted message said:

I hope to get a down sleeping bag (I'm looking at ME
classic 500 or 750). I'd like to use a silk liner (to cut
down on cleaning) and wondered if the 500 + silk liner
would be adequate for 3 season use in the UK. How much
would it add to the rating of the bag? ME quotes -5C and
-12C for the 500 and 750 respectively. Any advice much
appreciated. Thanks.

Years ago I made one myself using parachute material, double
layered very nice sadly lost it after to many bevies the
night before and failed to clear the area afterwards hi hi

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Boughay <[email hidden]> writes

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Do you actually need a liner with those bags? I have an
ME500 and sleep in it no problem mid winter (well in a snow
hole anyway), but then I do stay just about fully dressed.
The ME500 is classed as a 3 season anyway, so it depends on
whether you sleep warm or cold.

In answer to your question, yes they do make a difference,
although not as much as fleece liners (so I have been told)
which will add a few degrees on to your bag rating. Either
way to increase the rating of say the ME500 to an ME750 by
using liners, silk or fleece, would end up with you
carrying more weight and bulk (and probably cost) than if
you just bought and used the ME750.

If, as you say, you just want to use a silk liner to reduce
cleaning of your down bag then I would suggest going the
bag with the rating you need and just buying the lightest
and most compact liner you can.

Hey Chris - where have you sprung back up from. Or have I
missed other messages from you.

I opened this thread because I wanted to know what bag
liners do when they wake up?

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Martin Richardson
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