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  1. Hey Everyone,

    I hope someone can educate me with any sort of response to my question. I'm a cyclist who trains regularly five times a week. I recently took up running as cross training.

    During my first run I was aiming to keep my heart rate between 70% - 80% of my max heart rate to keep my training aerobic. However I could't, no matter how slow I was jogging, keep it below 90%.

    The next day my legs were incredibly sore from the lactic acid that had built up. I was quite surprised because I'm reasonably fit from cycling.

    Does anyone have any idea why I found it so difficult to keep my heart rate down in a more reasonable range?

    Cheers.

  2. From my experience your heart rate differs from sport to sport.With the lactic acid I usually sleep with my feet up, using some pillows as support. This lets the blood train out of your legs.

    If you want a professional opinion on training go to http://www.cyclingnews.com/fitness/?id=default#qa

    They can provide some great advice. (much better than almost everyone on this forum.)

  3. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by Sprinter_989
    If you want a professional opinion on training go to http://www.cyclingnews.com/fitness/?id=default#qa

    They can provide some great advice. (much better than almost everyone on this forum.)

    hope that eveyone doesn't include me... as i'm on both ;-)

    :eek:

    ric

  4. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by runway
    Hey Everyone,

    I hope someone can educate me with any sort of response to my question. I'm a cyclist who trains regularly five times a week. I recently took up running as cross training.

    During my first run I was aiming to keep my heart rate between 70% - 80% of my max heart rate to keep my training aerobic. However I could't, no matter how slow I was jogging, keep it below 90%.

    The next day my legs were incredibly sore from the lactic acid that had built up. I was quite surprised because I'm reasonably fit from cycling.

    Does anyone have any idea why I found it so difficult to keep my heart rate down in a more reasonable range?

    Cheers.

    trained cyclists can reach 100 to 106% of uphill running VO2max (the rate limiting mechanism in endurance exercise, and is the max amount of oxygen that can be utilised by the body).

    it's possible that your run HR will be higher than cycling HR.

    i'm not sure that you were jogging slowly enough, to keep your HR down. In other words, if you were joging at just above walking pace then your HR should've dropped. However, i'm unsure of the purpose of your running (i.e., what your goals are). depending on your goals there might be no need to purposefully run so slow that you keep your HR down. Running won't help your cycling (in trained cyclists), as it uses muscles differently, and there's little or no crossover, in adaptations.

    Lactate is basically completely dispersed within ~ 1-hr after supramaximal exercise (1-km bike TT, 400-m run). the soreness you feel, is because your muscles are being used differently (as well as different muscles) to that which happens when you cycle.

    ric

  5. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by runway
    Hey Everyone,

    I hope someone can educate me with any sort of response to my question. I'm a cyclist who trains regularly five times a week. I recently took up running as cross training.

    During my first run I was aiming to keep my heart rate between 70% - 80% of my max heart rate to keep my training aerobic. However I could't, no matter how slow I was jogging, keep it below 90%.

    The next day my legs were incredibly sore from the lactic acid that had built up. I was quite surprised because I'm reasonably fit from cycling.

    Does anyone have any idea why I found it so difficult to keep my heart rate down in a more reasonable range?

    Cheers.

    Why running ?

    Can be very hard on the knees, lower back, feet, ankles... the list goes on
    if you are a triathlete... okay I understand.. otherwise..

    considered rowing, skipping, punching bag, cross country skiing, swimming..
    tennis, maybe even go the gym.

    .... spend an hour a week on any of the above, to prove to yourself and friends you're not obsessed.....

    then get back the bike mate !

  6. The real question is "why cross train"

    If you want to get better at cycling then cycle.

    If you need to run for Tri or whatever then run but don't do it for the sake of "cross training"

  7. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by runway
    Hey Everyone,

    I hope someone can educate me with any sort of response to my question. I'm a cyclist who trains regularly five times a week. I recently took up running as cross training.

    During my first run I was aiming to keep my heart rate between 70% - 80% of my max heart rate to keep my training aerobic. However I could't, no matter how slow I was jogging, keep it below 90%.

    The next day my legs were incredibly sore from the lactic acid that had built up. I was quite surprised because I'm reasonably fit from cycling.

    Does anyone have any idea why I found it so difficult to keep my heart rate down in a more reasonable range?

    Cheers.

    Your running muscles are weak and have no endurance.
    Hence they produce huge amount lactic acid which produces CO2 and it leads to higher HRs.

    Muscle soreness is due to massive muscle fiber damage. Your running muscles/ligaments/tendons are not accustomed to overload and big contraction. So they got some damage and you start to feel soreness.

    Running doesn't help cycling. It contributes only into cardivascular and resripatory systems. So it's better to use running during early off season. The only one method can help cycling - running uphill with long powerful strides. It develops both endurance and strength and has lower stress on joints than running on flats. Also beware running downhill. It's extremely stressful for knee joints.

    Why to run? By the end of season I'm getting tired of bike so I can run for 1-2 months during my off-season to have some mental rest from cycling. Then I go back in saddle to ride on snow or to spin on trainer.

  8. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by dot
    Why to run? By the end of season I'm getting tired of bike so I can run for 1-2 months during my off-season to have some mental rest from cycling. Then I go back in saddle to ride on snow or to spin on trainer.

    Yeah that is a valid reason to change training methods but that really falls under the heading of "active recovery" rather than cross training

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