more help w/ weight loss

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Hi all.. I need diet help and I'm turning again to you....
starting weight 165 goal weight 145 5'-10" 42 years old
(female)

First week: I did the southbeach and decided it was not
for me. ran/walked once about 3 miles (about 30 minutes)
lost 8 pounds

Week 2 I simply ate what I thought was good for me (except
for those candy bars) ran/walked 13 miles gained 2 pounds

This is the start of week 3. I have decided to count
calories. I am trying to factor how many calories I can
have each day. I went to a website to learn how to
calculate it all and I think I must restrict my intake to
1300 per day. The website did not have very good feedback
for amount of exercise. 13 miles per week will be my
average for a while, running M, W, F and S.

So, is the calorie count correct? should I eat less on
days I don't run? I would like to lose 2 pounds per week.

The bottom line of any diet that works long-term is going to
be one that creates a caloric deficit. This is what I've
done to go from 245 to 166 since June '03. Some say counting
calories is difficult. However, once you get used to it,
it's not so bad. There are a few software programs that will
help you count calories. The one I use is DietPower
www.dietpower.com. You can download a 2 week trial and play
with it. That program and a high quality digital food scale
allows me to accurately track everything I eat. I suggest
that you at least try the software. The software will answer
the questions in your post for you. It will figure your
metabolic rate, your calories burned during exercise, how
much you can eat on a daily basis to achieve your desired
goal, and allow you to track your nutrients to make sure you
are eating a balanced diet (which is even more important
when you are restricting calories).

-Phil

2 pounds a week? Hell, I lose that every morning.

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The bottom line of any diet that works long-term is going
to be one that creates a caloric deficit. This is what
I've done to go from 245 to 166 since June '03. Some say
counting calories is difficult. However, once you get used
to it, it's not so bad. There are a few software programs
that will help you count calories. The one I use is
DietPower www.dietpower.com. You can download a 2 week
trial and play with it. That program and a high quality
digital food scale allows me to accurately track
everything I eat. I suggest that you at least try the
software. The software will answer the questions in your
post for you. It will figure your metabolic rate, your
calories burned during exercise, how much you can eat on a
daily basis to achieve your desired goal, and allow you to
track your nutrients to make sure you are eating a
balanced diet (which is even more important when you are
restricting calories).

-Phil

can the program keep track of more than one person? Or, do
you need to purchase one for each member of the household on
a diet? jojo

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The bottom line of any diet that works long-term is going
to be one that creates a caloric deficit. This is what
I've done to go from 245 to 166 since June '03. Some say
counting calories is difficult. However, once you get
used to it, it's not so bad. There are a few software
programs that will help you count calories. The one I use
is DietPower www.dietpower.com. You can download a 2 week
trial and play with it. That program and a high quality
digital food scale allows me to accurately track
everything I eat. I suggest that you at least try the
software. The software will answer the questions in your
post for you. It will figure your metabolic rate, your
calories burned during exercise, how much you can eat on
a daily basis to achieve your desired goal, and allow you
to track your nutrients to make sure you are eating a
balanced diet (which is even more important when you are
restricting calories).

-Phil

can the program keep track of more than one person? Or, do
you need to purchase one for each member of the household
on a diet?

Yes. Go to dietpower.comfaq.htmOpen ↗, click on the
"Does it handle multiple users?" link.

-Phil

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calculate it all and I think I must restrict my intake to
1300 per day. The website

1300 sounds way low to me... i've read a lot of articles
saying at least1500 is what the average woman needs just to
maintain basic vital functions, nevermind exercising...

anyone?

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calculate it all and I think I must restrict my intake
to 1300 per day. The

website

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1300 sounds way low to me... i've read a lot of articles
saying at

least1500

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is what the average woman needs just to maintain basic
vital functions, nevermind exercising...

anyone?

are you serious? I'm trying to find info on the web, but I
keep getting weight loss sights that just want me to spend
money and offer very little info...

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are you serious? I'm trying to find info on the web,

Bwahahahahaha .... (-; The web is an ocean of
misinformation.

Anyway, as far as websites go, this is one of the
better ones:

trygve.commfw faq.htmlOpen ↗

Pay attentiont to the stuff on dieting.

Also try this:

stumptuous.comweights.htmlOpen ↗

and read the subsection on "eating".

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi pegasus.rutgers.edu~elflordOpen ↗

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calculate it all and I think I must restrict my intake to
1300 per day. The website

1300 sounds way low to me... i've read a lot of articles
saying at least1500 is what the average woman needs just
to maintain basic vital functions, nevermind exercising...

anyone?

Assuming jojo weighs 159 lbs now (she said she was 165,
lost 8, gained
2). I entered her into my program, giving her 18 weeks to
lose 14 pounds, and it came up with this?

To reach your goal weight of 145.0 pounds on July 24,
2004, you need to average a net intake of 1535
calories per day.

diet. It means eating 374 calories less than required to
maintain your current weight, or giving up the equivalent
of about 5 slices of bread per day. (You can earn a few
extra calories through exercise. At your current weight, a
fast, 4-mile-per-hour, walk, for example, will burn off
about 6 calories a minute.)

It takes a while for the program to figure your metabolic
rate, so the first day is just a rough estimate. If you
start losing weight at a faster rate than your goal, the
program will adjust your caloric "budget" to allow for
more calories. Also, it will adjust for calories burned
through exercise.

-Phil

here are some others:

runnersworld.com0,1300,1 116 0Open ↗
853,FF.html?site=WomensRunni ng

bodybuilding.comleah1.htmOpen ↗

"Donovan Rebbechi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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<[email hidden]>,

jojo said:

are you serious? I'm trying to find info on the web,

Bwahahahahaha .... (-; The web is an ocean of
misinformation.

Anyway, as far as websites go, this is one of the
better ones:

trygve.commfw faq.htmlOpen ↗

Pay attentiont to the stuff on dieting.

Also try this:

stumptuous.comweights.htmlOpen ↗

and read the subsection on "eating".

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi pegasus.rutgers.edu~elflordOpen ↗

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"Zgirl" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:SYWdnY-y-
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calculate it all and I think I must restrict my intake
to 1300 per day. The website

1300 sounds way low to me... i've read a lot of articles
saying at least1500 is what the average woman needs just
to maintain basic vital functions, nevermind
exercising...

anyone?

Assuming jojo weighs 159 lbs now (she said she was 165,
lost 8, gained
2). I entered her into my program, giving her 18 weeks to
lose 14 pounds, and it came up with this?

To reach your goal weight of 145.0 pounds on July 24,
2004, you need to average a net intake of 1535 calories
per day.

Quoted message said:

diet. It means eating 374 calories less than required to
maintain your current weight, or giving up the
equivalent of about 5 slices of bread per day. (You can
earn a few extra calories through exercise. At your
current weight, a fast, 4-mile-per-hour, walk, for
example, will burn off about 6 calories a minute.)

It takes a while for the program to figure your metabolic
rate, so the first day is just a rough estimate. If you
start losing weight at a faster rate than your goal, the
program will adjust your caloric "budget" to allow for
more calories. Also, it will adjust for calories burned
through exercise.

-Phil

Thanks Phil. Can you rerun it for target date of May 1st?

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> calculate it all and I think I must restrict my intake
> to 1300 per day. The website
>

1300 sounds way low to me... i've read a lot of
articles saying at least1500 is what the average woman
needs just to maintain basic vital functions, nevermind
exercising...

anyone?

Assuming jojo weighs 159 lbs now (she said she was 165,
lost 8, gained 2). I entered her into my program, giving
her 18 weeks to lose 14 pounds, and it came up with this?

To reach your goal weight of 145.0 pounds on July 24,
2004, you need to average a net intake of 1535 calories
per day.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

diet. It means eating 374 calories less than required
to maintain your current weight, or giving up the
equivalent of about 5 slices of bread per day. (You can
earn a few extra calories through exercise. At your
current weight, a fast, 4-mile-per-hour, walk, for
example, will burn off about 6 calories a minute.)

It takes a while for the program to figure your metabolic
rate, so the first day is just a rough estimate. If you
start losing weight at a faster rate than your goal, the
program will adjust your caloric "budget" to allow for
more calories. Also, it will adjust for calories burned
through exercise.

-Phil

Thanks Phil. Can you rerun it for target date of May 1st?

I can do that, but it will show a daily caloric budget that
is too low for you (under 1,000 calories). On a sub-1000
calorie diet it will be very difficult to get the the proper
nutrients to maintain your health. I suggest you try the
software and plug in some values that are realistic.

-Phil

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>
>> calculate it all and I think I must restrict my
>> intake to 1300 per day. The website
>>
>
>
> 1300 sounds way low to me... i've read a lot of
> articles saying at least1500 is what the average
> woman needs just to maintain basic vital functions,
> nevermind exercising...
>
> anyone?

Assuming jojo weighs 159 lbs now (she said she was 165,
lost 8, gained 2). I entered her into my program,
giving her 18 weeks to lose 14 pounds, and it came up
with this?

To reach your goal weight of 145.0 pounds on July 24,
2004, you need to average a net intake of 1535
calories per day.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

diet. It means eating 374 calories less than required
to maintain your current weight, or giving up the
equivalent of about 5 slices of bread per day. (You
can earn a few extra calories through exercise. At
your current weight, a fast, 4-mile-per-hour, walk,
for example, will burn off about 6 calories a
minute.)

It takes a while for the program to figure your
metabolic rate, so the first day is just a rough
estimate. If you start losing weight at a faster rate
than your goal, the program will adjust your caloric
"budget" to allow for more calories. Also, it will
adjust for calories burned through exercise.

-Phil

Thanks Phil. Can you rerun it for target date of
May 1st?

I can do that, but it will show a daily caloric budget
that is too low for you (under 1,000 calories). On a sub-
1000 calorie diet it will be very difficult to get the the
proper nutrients to maintain your health. I suggest you
try the software and plug in some values that are
realistic.

-Phil

ok, thanks for running the number. I do appreciate the help.
I'll DL it and check it out. jojo

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Thanks Phil. Can you rerun it for target date of May 1st?

That's 2lb a week. It requires 1000 calories/day deficit
(that means work out your daily maintenance calories and
then subtract 1000 from that), which is going to make any
exercise a truly painful and miserable experience.

You can run all the programs you like, but it will not
alter the fact that what you're aiming for is not
realistic. Is there a good reason why you're in such a
hurry ? If you're aiming for temporary weight loss to make
some sort of weigh-in, you could cheat the scales by 5lb or
more by temporary water loss, but if you're interested in
long term weight loss, then you need to adopt a long term
mindset to go with it.

Cheers,
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jojo said:

Thanks Phil. Can you rerun it for target date of
May 1st?

That's 2lb a week. It requires 1000 calories/day deficit
(that means work

out

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your daily maintenance calories and then subtract 1000
from that), which

is

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going to make any exercise a truly painful and miserable
experience.

You can run all the programs you like, but it will not
alter the fact that

what

Quoted message said:

you're aiming for is not realistic. Is there a good reason
why you're in

such

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a hurry ? If you're aiming for temporary weight loss to
make some sort of weigh-in, you could cheat the scales by
5lb or more by temporary water

loss,

Quoted message said:

but if you're interested in long term weight loss, then
you need to adopt

a

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long term mindset to go with it.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi pegasus.rutgers.edu~elflordOpen ↗

your right, I did not realize how silly that goal was. jojo

Miss Anne Thrope said:

2 pounds a week? Hell, I lose that every morning.

So do I, but I remember where I put them by evening.

All seriousness aside, what is the mechanism for this? Is it
water loss (I wake up thirsty)? Of just the effect of not
eating for 10-12 hours (but my calory consumption during
sleep must be very low, I would think).

Mike McSwell

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Water weighs "a pint a pound, the world around," right?

Wrong. Twice in one day! ;-)

In the UK we have stronger gravity and every pint
weighs 20 oz.

Tim

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TopCounsel said:

Water weighs "a pint a pound, the world around," right?

Wrong. Twice in one day! ;-)

In the UK we have stronger gravity and every pint weighs
20 oz.

So you would be able to break 1:30 if you were to run in
the US (-;

Cheers,
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jojo said:

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Thanks Phil. Can you rerun it for target date of
May 1st?

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your right, I did not realize how silly that goal
was. jojo

But...if you run consistently four times a week until May 1,
and lose about 10 pounds, you will look smaller than if you
just lost 10 pounds.

Been there, done that :-)

Maybe you want to look good in a dress or something?

Donna

Tim Downie said:

TopCounsel said:

Water weighs "a pint a pound, the world around," right?

Wrong. Twice in one day! ;-)

In the UK we have stronger gravity and every pint
weighs 20 oz.

That's because you're weighing stout, not water. 🙂

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