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  1. Well, I'm annoyed. I ended up 8 seconds on the wrong side
    of my predicted finishing time (1:31:14). In my defence I
    would say that Inverness isn't the flattest of courses and
    it was darned windy yesterday, the wind alone probably
    accounting for over a minute. So, at the end of the day,
    I'm not too upset.

    We took a minibus load of runners (8 from our club + one ex-
    club member) up the A9 to Inverness yesterday, leaving Troon
    just after 7 am. The weather was filthy with rain most of
    the way up. As we neared Inverness however, the skies
    started to clear and by the time we'd registered, changed,
    toileted and warmed up, we had blue sky and sunshine. It was
    even starting to feel warm so off came the long sleeves and
    we lined up in singlets and shorts.

    My race plan was to run as close to 7 minute miles as I
    could for the first
    1/2 and then pick up the pace (if possible) for the second
    1/2. Whilst I knew I ought to be able to manage it my only
    recent race experience at
    2/sub7 pace has been in 5Ks which doesn't quite give you the
    reassurance you want that you'll be able to hold the pace
    over a 1/2 marathon.

    The first mile of the course runs down river (the Ness) and
    with the wind behind us I was being extra careful not to go
    out too fast. After a bit of pace adjustment (i.e. slowing
    down) I hit the first mile marker at 6:59 which I was
    pleased about. We turned our first corner over the bridge
    across the Ness and headed back upstream head on into the
    wind. Unfortunately, due to the fact that I'd slowed
    significantly in that first mile, my pace was now too slow.
    Mile 2 came up in 7:15. :-( I wasn't too worried however and
    decided that if I was going to run any parts too slow, far
    better to do it early rather than late.

    For the next two miles I picked up the pace to 7:07.
    Between the 3rd and fourth mile there's a signnificant
    climb so again, I wasn't too concerend. The fifth mile came
    in 6:59 and the sixth in 6:43. I hit the seventh mile at
    49:00 dead (a 6:48 mile) and from then on, concentrated on
    keeping my pace under the 7 mpm. The weather btw, which had
    started out sunny and warm had turned dark, windy and then
    it started to rain.

    From 10 miles onwards I realised that all was not well with
    my guts and the harder I pushed, the harder *they* pushed
    (if you know what I mean). An unwelcome distraction at this
    point in the race and I started to curse all the high fibre
    carrot and celery sticks that I had munched at a dinner
    party the night before. Still, with cheeks clenched, and
    aided by the wind (not *mine*, you know what I mean) and
    downhill stretches, that wasn't too hard and the only real
    problem came when we crossed back over the main bridge and
    retraced our steps back into the teeth of the wind (which
    was now much stronger). I managed to hold my pace to the end
    and finished in 1:31:22.

    (Full results at
    invernesshalfmarathon.co.uk2004 FO.htm)

    A sub 1:30 would have been nice and if it hadn't been
    for the wind I might just have scraped it (although I
    may be kidding myself.) Overall, I'm pretty pleased with
    the result.

    Although there were three water stations on the course I
    didn't feel the need to stop at any of them. Unless it's a
    warm day. I'm really not convinced that the few mouthfuls of
    water that one can gulp down in a half marathon are of any
    use whatsoever. Of course if it's hot then that changes
    things. Ditto with regard to gels etc. Again, I'm not
    convinced that they would have made any difference for a
    runner like myself over that distance.

    Lessons learnt?

    3.) *Don't* munch you way through a bowl of carrot & celery
    sticks the night before a 1/2 marathon! From now on, it's
    going to be a low fibre diet the preceeding day for me.
    Because I have had problems like this before I had taken
    imodium (loperamide) pre-race but it would seem that the
    competition was just too great.

    4.) Just because you hit the first mile marker at your
    expected time, it *doesn't* necessarily mean that you're
    running at your planned race pace. Clearly I ran the first
    half mile too fast and the next too slow to compensate and
    ended up with the right time but wrong pace for the next
    mile.

    3.) Not so much a lesson as an observation. I took some
    Slimfast for my immediate post run rescucitation and once
    again, my legs feel great. It's the third time I've used
    it after long/hard runs and my impression is that it does
    seem to aid recovery. Of course, it might just mean I
    didn't really push myself hard enough. ;-)

    Splits: 1 6:59 2 7:15 (ugh!) 3 7:07 4 7:07 (From 1 to
    3.5miles was all either uphill or head on into the wind) 5
    6:59 6 6:43 7 6:48 8 6:58 9 6:55 10 6:48 11 missed 12
    13:58 13 6:56
    4.1 43:37

    Finishing time 1:31:22

    Tim

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  2. The chosen one? not worthy.hands in prayer waist high and a
    bow. once a few years back.I saw tom.H.Here a boot. well 1
    too many it is tom house? (sorry lost in space agen)
    solution still in works.>now different time. cleveland ohio
    doing rock and roll hall of fame No one re turns calls, so
    who to say what can and can't be said? here soon. (sort of)
    they say 1/2 million a year visit. if 10 bucks a shot or
    free. not sure? now? Hard to say. Got things to do. pick up
    weights and set up star weight outside area. I wish I could
    run like that. well maybe not the wind part or my own name
    calling. all not true I guest.maybe once I build up my once
    bad self. I be a 10 min mile runner agen. butt one strong
    one. with abbs this time. (maybe agen) hard to say..(sorry
    agen) god speed rr. next respond please.

  3. Tom Wheeler said:

    The chosen one? not worthy.hands in prayer waist high
    and a bow.

    Hey, don't go overboard Tom. A simple "well done" will
    suffice. ;-)

    Good luck with the painting and running.

    Tim
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  4. Tim Downie said:

    Well, I'm annoyed. I ended up 8 seconds on the wrong side
    of my predicted finishing time (1:31:14). In my defence I
    would say that Inverness isn't the flattest of courses and
    it was darned windy yesterday, the wind alone probably
    accounting for over a minute. So, at the end of the day,
    I'm not too upset.

    I see your fellow club member George McGregor 10 years
    your senior slid in front of you. Maybe the high fiber
    sowed you down? 🙂

    A good effort which suggests your speed work is on target
    for your 50k if you aren't working on writing your own press
    clippings in the first 5 miles.

    --
    Doug Freese "Caveat Lector" [email hidden]

  5. Congratulations, Tim! Very sorry about the, um,
    disturbances, but I think you know the cause and how to not
    have it happen again. But nothing you can do about the wind,
    and I'm sure that's where the extra time came from. No doubt
    in my mind you'd have made 1:30 without the nasty wind. (Can
    you tell I dislike the wind?) Hope the muscles are feeling
    well today!

    Teresa in AZ

    Tim Downie said:

    (Full results at
    invernesshalfmarathon.co.uk2004 FO.htm)

    A sub 1:30 would have been nice and if it hadn't been
    for the wind I might just have scraped it (although I
    may be kidding myself.) Overall, I'm pretty pleased with
    the result.

    Finishing time 1:31:22

    Tim

  6. Doug Freese said:


    I see your fellow club member George McGregor 10 years
    your senior slid in front of you. Maybe the high fiber
    sowed you down? 🙂

    If you mean "slowed", then possibly yes. ;-) It's hard to
    run your hardest when you rear end is trying to do likewise!
    It doesn't half distract you from running your best.

    George is one of those wiry tough guys who was having an off
    day yesterday. Partly down to having a cold and partly due
    to having run a 1:27 just the week before. He's next on my
    hit list. ;-)

    Quoted message said:

    A good effort which suggests your speed work is on target
    for your 50k if you aren't working on writing your own
    press clippings in the first 5 miles.

    Thanks.

    Tim

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  7. Is Bill Downie (posn 594) a relative?

    D

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  8. David Hallsworth said:

    Is Bill Downie (posn 594) a relative?

    Not that *I* know of but who knows? ;-)

    Tim

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  9. Teresa Bippert-Plymate said:

    Congratulations, Tim! Very sorry about the, um,
    disturbances, but I think you know the cause and how to
    not have it happen again. But nothing you can do about the
    wind, and I'm sure that's where the extra time came from.
    No doubt in my mind you'd have made 1:30 without the nasty
    wind. (Can you tell I dislike the wind?) Hope the muscles
    are feeling well today!

    Thanks Teresa. The muscles are feeling fine although it's
    hard to tell whether it's the 50 miles/week that speed my
    recovery or the post run Slimfast. Already been out for an
    easy 5 mile jog.

    Cheers.

    Tim
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  10. Quoted message said:
    David Hallsworth said:

    Is Bill Downie (posn 594) a relative?

    Not that *I* know of but who knows? ;-)

    Hey, if he is related, you got the better genes - you
    whooped his ass!

    D

  11. Tim Downie said:

    Well, I'm annoyed. I ended up 8 seconds on the wrong side
    of my predicted finishing time (1:31:14). In my defence I
    would say that Inverness isn't the flattest of courses and
    it was darned windy yesterday, the wind alone probably
    accounting for over a minute. So, at the end of the day,
    I'm not too upset.

    <snip interesting report>

    Not so long ago (2-3 years I think), you were aiming for a
    similarish time at the Glasgow half marathon (1'44 from
    memory). I'm eating your dust at the moment, well done!

    Was this a PB?

  12. Super! I keep hearing good things about the Slim-Fast
    recovery. I have been drinking soymilk myself, but I'll have
    to pick up some SF and try
    it.

    Teresa

    Tim Downie said:
    Teresa Bippert-Plymate said:

    Congratulations, Tim! Very sorry about the, um,
    disturbances, but I think you know the cause and how to
    not have it happen again. But nothing you can do about the
    wind, and I'm sure that's where the extra time came from.
    No doubt in my mind you'd have made 1:30 without the nasty
    wind. (Can you tell I dislike the wind?) Hope the muscles
    are feeling well today!

    Thanks Teresa. The muscles are feeling fine although it's
    hard to tell whether it's the 50 miles/week that speed my
    recovery or the post run Slimfast. Already been out for an
    easy 5 mile jog.

    Cheers.

    Tim

  13. 1) carrot sticks ARE dangerous in the wrong hands.

    Quoted message said:


    2.) Just because you hit the first mile marker at your
    expected time, it *doesn't* necessarily mean that you're
    running at your planned race pace. Clearly I ran the
    first half mile too fast and the next too slow to
    compensate and ended up with the right time but wrong
    pace for the next
    mile.

    My trick, too. Though at a rather slower speed.

    Quoted message said:

    3.) Not so much a lesson as an observation. I took some
    Slimfast for my immediate post run rescucitation and
    once again, my legs feel great. It's the third time I've
    used it after long/hard runs and my impression is that
    it does seem to aid recovery. Of course, it might just
    mean I didn't


    really

    Quoted message said:

    push myself hard enough. ;-)

    Quite. Absolutely pathetic, Tim. You've every right to be
    annoyed with yourself. Mind you, well done on the 1.31.
    Impressive. J

  14. In message <[email hidden]>, Teresa Bippert-
    Plymate <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    Super! I keep hearing good things about the Slim-Fast
    recovery. I have been drinking soymilk myself, but I'll
    have to pick up some SF and try
    it.

    Teresa

    Tim Downie said:
    Teresa Bippert-Plymate said:

    Congratulations, Tim! Very sorry about the, um,
    disturbances, but I think you know the cause and how to
    not have it happen again. But nothing you can do about
    the wind, and I'm sure that's where the extra time came
    from. No doubt in my mind you'd have made 1:30 without
    the nasty wind. (Can you tell I dislike the wind?) Hope
    the muscles are feeling well today!


    Thanks Teresa. The muscles are feeling fine although
    it's hard to tell whether it's the 50 miles/week that
    speed my recovery or the post run Slimfast. Already
    been out for an easy 5 mile jog.

    What Slimfast do you use Tim, ready to drink or mix your
    own? Years ago I used to drink Weider Muscle Fuel which
    seemed to help when I was running marathons but I think they
    stopped making it some time ago.
    --
    Les V60 North Shields Poly AC nspoly.co.uknspoly.co.uk

  15. ZB said:
    Tim Downie said:

    Well, I'm annoyed. I ended up 8 seconds on the wrong side
    of my predicted finishing time (1:31:14). In my defence I
    would say that Inverness isn't the flattest of courses
    and it was darned windy yesterday, the wind alone
    probably accounting for over a minute. So, at the end of
    the day, I'm not too upset.

    <snip interesting report>

    Not so long ago (2-3 years I think), you were aiming for a
    similarish time at the Glasgow half marathon (1'44 from
    memory).

    Sounds about right. I guess you mean "similarish" to your
    own target time.

    Quoted message said:

    I'm eating your dust at the moment, well done!

    Was this a PB?

    Yep. By 6 minutes and 7 seconds. The only problem is, it's
    taken me 12 months to improve on it! I'll be an old old man
    before I manage a 1:15. ;-)

    Tim

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  16. Tim Downie said:
    ZB said:
    Tim Downie said:

    Well, I'm annoyed. I ended up 8 seconds on the wrong
    side of my predicted finishing time (1:31:14). In my
    defence I would say that Inverness isn't the flattest of
    courses and it was darned windy yesterday, the wind
    alone probably accounting for over a minute. So, at the
    end of the day, I'm not too upset.

    <snip interesting report>

    Not so long ago (2-3 years I think), you were aiming for
    a similarish time at the Glasgow half marathon (1'44 from
    memory).

    Sounds about right. I guess you mean "similarish" to your
    own target time.

    Yep, silly me. Thats still my target time :-)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I'm eating your dust at the moment, well done!

    Was this a PB?

    Yep. By 6 minutes and 7 seconds. The only problem is, it's
    taken me 12 months to improve on it! I'll be an old old
    man before I manage a
    1:15. ;-)

    And more and more people will be telling you how ill
    you look ;-)

  17. In article said:

    The first mile of the course runs down river (the Ness)
    and with the wind behind us I was being extra careful not
    to go out too fast. After a bit of pace adjustment (i.e.
    slowing down) I hit the first mile marker at 6:59 which I
    was pleased about. We turned our first corner over the
    bridge across the Ness and headed back upstream head on
    into the wind. Unfortunately, due to the fact that I'd
    slowed significantly in that first mile, my pace was now
    too slow. Mile 2 came up in 7:15. :-( I wasn't too worried
    however and decided that if I was going to run any parts
    too slow, far better to do it early rather than late.

    I have an alternative theory -- your first mile was
    downwind and probably also a net downhill (since it was
    downstream). It's not at all unusual to get splits that are
    about +-5 seconds (see my splits for the central park
    course for example)

    Quoted message said:

    (Full results at
    invernesshalfmarathon.co.uk2004 FO.htm)

    A sub 1:30 would have been nice and if it hadn't been for
    the wind I might just have scraped it (although I may be
    kidding myself.)

    A sub 1:30 would have not only been nice, it's comparable to
    about 19:30 for a 5k, so it would have been a fair bit
    better than your other races. I think it's within reach, but
    you'll probably have to work some more to get it.

    FWIW, I actually think you did pretty well, including in the
    "botched" second
    mile. Dropping a few seconds on the early miles seldom
    hurts (especially if they're uphill/upwind/etc),
    and you usually will gain them back later in the
    race. As someone who also recently ran a half
    marathon "8 seconds worse than predicted" (well,
    close to that), I can say that I'm damn happy about
    it. You should be too.

    Cheers,
    --
    Donovan Rebbechi pegasus.rutgers.edu~elflord

  18. David Hallsworth said:
    Quoted message said:
    David Hallsworth said:

    Is Bill Downie (posn 594) a relative?

    Not that *I* know of but who knows? ;-)

    Hey, if he is related, you got the better genes - you
    whooped his ass!

    This time admittedly but bearing in mind that he would have
    beaten me with that time 2 years ago *and* he's 5 years
    older than me, he's not doing too badly. ;-)

    Tim

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  19. Congrats Tim! Nice result and report. And another lesson
    learned the hard way about what to eat before a race...

    Anthony.

  20. Anthony said:

    Congrats Tim! Nice result and report. And another lesson
    learned the hard way about what to eat before a race...

    Well he possibly learned was what not to eat but the real
    question - what would he eat the next time? How do you
    really know it was the celery(or what ever you pointed at)
    and not something totally unrealated. Running fast and
    digestion is not an exact science.

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