40/30/30

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where does the seemingly arbitrary 40/30/30 ratio for the zone diet come from

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where does the seemingly arbitrary 40/30/30 ratio for the
zone diet come from

It just works out that way for many people. Get enough
protein, say .8g per pound for me (I'm a weight-lifter.) Get
enough fat to feel sated, some of which comes along with the
protein and some of which I add in the form of seed or nut
oils. Leftover calories come from carbs that provide fiber
and phytonutrients. Voila, it works out to roughly 30% of my
calories from protein, 30% from healthy fats and the net is
available for carbs.

Because it's so easy to blow a calorie budget with simple
carbs, in practice this means that I have to watch carbs
carefully. It's not that my diet is LOW-CARB (I get between
40-50% of my calories from carbs) but that they are the ones
that need the most monitoring in my life.

When I log my food choices at www.fitday.com I often
find that my ratios vary around 33/33/33 by +/- 10%.
Doesn't matter. I've found a way of eating that leaves
me feeling sated, with enough energy and doesn't blow my
calorie budget. I've lost over 60 pounds of lard since I
figured this out.

Dally
244/180/170

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where does the seemingly arbitrary 40/30/30 ratio for the
zone diet come from

Good question.

Here is another one: Where does the 30/10/60 ratio of the
food guide come from?

TC

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Where does the 30/10/60 ratio of the food guide come from?

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Just thought that you might want to know. 🙂

On 10 Mar 2004 09:58:54 -0800, [email hidden] (tcomeau) posted:

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where does the seemingly arbitrary 40/30/30 ratio for the
zone diet come from

Good question.

Here is another one: Where does the 30/10/60 ratio of the
food guide come from?

TC

Ummm, your imagination? Certainly not from any food guide
I've ever seen, except the [censored] you write here. Only
obsessed weight lifters would consume 60% protein, surely.

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On 10 Mar 2004 09:58:54 -0800, [email hidden]
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where does the seemingly arbitrary 40/30/30 ratio for
the zone diet come from

Good question.

Here is another one: Where does the 30/10/60 ratio of the
food guide come from?

Ummm, your imagination? Certainly not from any food guide
I've ever seen, except the [censored] you write here. Only
obsessed weight lifters would consume 60% protein, surely.

30F-10P-60C is often seen as a conventional healthy diet.
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Ummm, your imagination? Certainly not from any food guide
I've ever seen, except the [censored] you write here. Only
obsessed weight lifters would consume 60% protein,
surely.

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30F-10P-60C is often seen as a conventional healthy diet.

Actually, it is 30F-15P-55C for the person of normal weight.
And, 35F-15P-50C for the obese sugar sensitive types.

Just thought that you might want to know. 🙂

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On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 09:06:14 GMT, Tim Tyler <[email hidden]> posted:

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On 10 Mar 2004 09:58:54 -0800, [email hidden]
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> where does the seemingly arbitrary 40/30/30 ratio for
> the zone diet come from

Good question.

Here is another one: Where does the 30/10/60 ratio of
the food guide come from?

Ummm, your imagination? Certainly not from any food guide
I've ever seen, except the [censored] you write here. Only
obsessed weight lifters would consume 60% protein,
surely.

30F-10P-60C is often seen as a conventional healthy diet.

So long as your activity is high enough to allow a
eucaloric diet of this ratio to supply sufficient protein,
nothing wrong with this at all. BTW, I think the convention
is C:F:P isn't it?

You could reduce that useless fat intake to 29% and the
protein can be raised to 20% and this is fine for lesser
energy needs still getting an adequate protein intake.