Old Grill Question

Tim said:

Does anyone remember what type of older style natural gas grill was the "generic" standard of
natural gas grills, with just a post in the ground about 15 years ago? I thought that there was
one company that made most of them...

If you are actually talking about gas grilles older than that, Charmglow was more or less the
standard back in the 1960s and 70s for these. Gas grilles were relatively rare back then, most
everyone was using charcoal. I don't know how long Charmglow remained dominant in the market.

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Does anyone remember what type of older style natural gas grill was the "generic" standard of
natural gas grills, with just a post in the ground about 15 years ago?

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Just curious. Where does the gas come from? Here at our condominium the gas comes up from the
ground, through the pipe--requiring quite some installation work. Perhaps there is another type that
has a changeable small gas tank attached underneath the grill.

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Hello,

Does anyone remember what type of older style natural gas grill was the "generic" standard of
natural gas grills, with just a post in the ground about 15 years ago? I thought that there was
one company that made most of them...

Thanks...

Ours was Charmglow.
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Does anyone remember what type of older style natural gas grill was the "generic" standard
of natural gas grills, with just a post in the ground about 15 years ago?

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Just curious. Where does the gas come from? Here at our condominium the

gas

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comes up from the ground, through the pipe--requiring quite some

installation

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work. Perhaps there is another type that has a changeable small gas tank attached underneath
the grill.

When I was a teenager my aunt and uncle moved into a new house with one of those built-in grills
in their back yard, and yes - the gas was plumbed into it through pipes in the ground. We
thought it was the neatest thing, but you sure had to be certain it was installed where you'd
always want it to be.

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Does anyone remember what type of older style natural gas grill was the "generic" standard of
natural gas grills, with just a post in the ground about 15 years ago?

---------------------------------
Just curious. Where does the gas come from? Here at our condominium the gas comes up from the
ground, through the pipe--requiring quite some installation work.

You're lucky to have natural gas at a condo complex, most municipal fire codes throuhgout the US no
longer permit natural gas installed in multiple dwelling complexes... in fact many don't permit
portable propane tanks.

If there is natural gas present at a residence it's no biggie to run an underground line out to the
back yard... I had that at my last house, in fact I ran that line underground myself at the time I
had the gas company swap my old oil heating system to natural gas; I asked if while they were
running the gas line they'd add a line for my grill and so since the main was passing where I wanted
my grill they put in a tee and ran a line through a hole they drilled in the foundation, installed a
shut-off valve and capped the line. A few weeks later I dug a 30" deep trench and continued the gas
line to the edge of where my new paver block patio would soon be located... a few local plumbers
quoted me $500-$600 to continue that line from the cap, a 20' run, I did it myself in under an hour
with $34 worth of 3/4" galvanized pipe, fittings, and pipe dope from Home Depot. I was willing to
pay say $200 but the prices those plumbers quoted were ridiculous. The trench was easy to dig as
that entire area had been excavated 5' deep with a backhoe about a month before when the old cement
patio was removed and I had a new waste line installed because I didn't trust that 40 year old
orangeburg pipe under my new patio, just my luck as soon as the patio was down that pipe would
collapse. One plumber arrived in a new Lincoln Continental, in a dark business suit, toting an
attache case (musta been a plumbing clown, and I don't even think he was Italian)... he wasted over
a half hour examining and measuring the site before he'd give me his outrageous *estimate* (not a
firm price), another half hour with calculator and writing up a proposal... had he arrived prepared
to work he could have completed the job within the time he spent attempting to fast talk me... now I
remember, he wasn't Itralian, he was Puerto Rican... same difference. hehe

Tthe house I live in now had oil heat but when I moved in one of the first things I did was have the
boiler retrofitted to propane, had a 500 gallon tank installed outside, hidden in a pine grove and
plumbed underground to the house... ran a line for my kitchen stove and one out to the deck for my
Weber too, both of which were converted from natural gas with inexpensive kits I had ordered
previously, no biggie.

Throughout NYC most every street has natural gas... in the guinea neighborhoods most all the dagos
have an old beat to heck natural gas kitchen stove outdoors at the rear of their house (usually
under a screened in elevated porch, that's a guido dining room btw), the WOPs do most of their
cooking outdoors because the crapola those guidos cook stinks so badly (you'd know if ever you fried
squid with a head of garlic). You always know when you're entering an Eyetalian neighborhood, aside
from the friggin' stench most every other car is dark green... how many people you know drive green
cars... of course the rest are black stretches, and lots of gaudily painted tow trucks... hey, the
tow truck is the dago version of an SUV! <G>

Ahahahahaha. . . . .

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Does anyone remember what type of older style natural gas grill was the "generic" standard
of natural gas grills, with just a post in the ground about 15 years ago?

---------------------------------
Just curious. Where does the gas come from? Here at our condominium the gas comes up from the
ground, through the pipe--requiring quite some installation work. Perhaps there is another type
that has a changeable small gas tank attached underneath the grill.

We've had both types -- a tap from the gas line, and a refillable propane tank that attaches to the
grill. The former is stationary, the latter is portable.
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-Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> updated 2-19-04 -- Dufus picture posted!

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> Does anyone remember what type of older style natural gas grill was the "generic" standard
> of natural gas grills, with just a post in the ground about 15 years ago?

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Just curious. Where does the gas come from? Here at our condominium the

gas

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comes up from the ground, through the pipe--requiring quite some

installation

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work.

You're lucky to have natural gas at a condo complex, most municipal fire

codes

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throuhgout the US no longer permit natural gas installed in multiple

dwelling

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complexes...

Check your references. The specific reference document that is almost always incorporated into
building/fire codes is NFPA 54 - National Fuel Gas Code. The current edition is 2002 with the next
version scheduled in 2005. I am not aware of any prohibition of natural gas in multiple dwellings
except perhaps on a limited local basis...

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Hello,

Does anyone remember what type of older style natural gas grill was the "generic" standard of
natural gas grills, with just a post in the ground about 15 years ago? I thought that there
was one company that made most of them...

Thanks...

Ours was Charmglow.
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-Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> updated 2-19-04 -- Dufus picture posted!

So IS ours a Charmglow, from the late 1960's. And it still works. We don't use it often because I
got me a cermaic cooker for my last BIG birthday.

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Yes, but that only applies where usage is permitted and actually used.

Always willing to learn something. I am not aware of any jurisdictions that prohibit natural gas
in multi-family dwellings. That is what really caught my eye. Can you bring me up to date on
those areas?

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NFPA has to do with *National* (not Municipal) installation, handling, and safety codes when fuel
is used... has nothing to do with Municipal laws regarding permits regarding use prohibitions...
how can one regulate

proper use

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of what is not permited? duh

The NFPA only writes codes but has no authority. The National Gas Code is written by them and the
AGA (American Gas Association). Most areas do not have the expertise to write their own codes and
there has been a big move for standardization in recent times so most areas simply adopt the
National Gas Code as the legally enforcable set of rules (building & fire codes) for fuel gas in the
same fashion as they adopt the National Electrical Code as the set of rules for electricity in their
jurisdiction.

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Hello,

Does anyone remember what type of older style natural gas grill was the "generic" standard of
natural gas grills, with just a post in the ground about 15 years ago? I thought that there was
one company that made most of them...

Thanks...

A very popular brand many years ago was TURCO.

IIRC the lid had the letters molded in.

Parts are still available.

appliancefactoryparts.comturcoOpen ↗

Dimitri

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Tim said:

Does anyone remember what type of older style natural gas grill was the
"generic" standard of natural gas grills, with just a post in the ground
about 15 years ago? I thought that there was one company that made most of
them...

If you are actually talking about gas grilles older than that, Charmglow was
more or less the standard back in the 1960s and 70s for these. Gas grilles were
relatively rare back then, most everyone was using charcoal. I don't know how
long Charmglow remained dominant in the market.

Ours was a Charmglos, installed back in 1968. It was used constantly and was
replaced with the same model about ten eyars later. The gas was plumbed
underground and came up through the post.

When we later moved into a new house, the gas company recommended a flexible hose
connecting the gas to an outlet on the sidewall of the house. We bought a Ducane
and hated it. After one season, we replaced it with another Charmglow.

I believe they were made by Warm Morning, the folks who used to make
incinerators.

Wayne

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Ours was Charmglow.

So IS ours a Charmglow, from the late 1960's. And it still
works. We don't use it often because I got me a cermaic
cooker for my last BIG birthday.

Excellent!!
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the button to prove it!) "Always in a jam, never in a stew;
sometimes in a pickle."

Nancree said:

Just curious. Where does the gas come from? Here at our
condominium the gas comes up from the ground, through the
pipe--requiring quite some installation work. Perhaps
there is another type that has a changeable small gas tank
attached underneath the grill.

They are two different types of gas. The portable tanks are
propane. The stuff that comes through a pipe in the pipe is
natural gas. It is hooked up to your main feed line if you
have natural gas furnace, hot water, dryer or stove.

we have our current grill hooked up to the house gas. My
parents always had the post kind hooked up to house natural
gas, a few years with a tank grill and I was fed up. You
need a special grill that is a little more expensive but it
only cost 150 dollars or so to have the gas line extended
outside. Ours looks like a regular gas grill, and sits on
the deck. When we want to use it we attach a special hose to
the gas line and turn a 'valve' on.

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Melba's Jammin said:

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>> Does anyone remember what type of older style
>> natural gas grill

was

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>> the "generic" standard of natural gas grills, with
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the

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>> ground about 15 years ago?
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Just curious. Where does the gas come from? Here at our
condominium the gas comes up from the ground, through
the pipe--requiring quite some installation work.
Perhaps there is another type that has a changeable
small gas

tank

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attached underneath the grill.

We've had both types -- a tap from the gas line, and a
refillable propane tank that attaches to the grill. The
former is stationary, the latter is portable.

Previously I had my Weber connected to natural gas, and
now to bulk

propane...

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but the grill is equiped with a 15' quick disconnect
hose... I think

that's

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portable.

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