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Welcome, Sharon. I, too, have joined WW many times. The program definitely works if you work the
program. This is an awesome group. Unlike any other newsgroup I've ever read. Very, very supportive.
It sounds like you had a great breakfast!

Geri

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I just joined WW this week (for about the 10th time over the last 30

years),

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and this morning the thought occurred to me that maybe there was a group

of

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"real" people helping each other on the newsgroups.

welcome, sounds like you have made a good start in your journey by
identifying the problem areas. what about trying to lighten up the recipes
you do like to eat, good luck, Lee
Sharon & Jack <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I just joined WW this week (for about the 10th time over the last 30

years),

Quoted message said:

and this morning the thought occurred to me that maybe there was a group

of

Quoted message said:

"real" people helping each other on the newsgroups.

I sabotage myself very well. I hate behavior modification when it's obvious, hate journaling, and
I'm not a big fan of the recipes, either. Hmm - sabotage attempting to rear it's nasty head
already. But............this time I really need to succeed, for both myself and my daughter. We
both have health issues that our weight is seriously affecting, so I need to deflect the anger (my
in-laws are all skinny

mini's

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who like to give advice), and get on with this.

It takes me forever to figure out what I can eat, checking points, so I've always tended to eat
the "bare bones" instead of really preparing dishes. And of course, then I get bored, and head for
the "good" old stuff.

This time, I THINK I've maybe hit on something that will help us (DD and
me). I sat down this morning, and used a magic marker to write the points on the containers of
cream cheese, margarine, jelly, etc. So I don't have to continually check (I know that
knowledge will become second nature if I can stick to this). Then I looked around at what I am
actually willing to eat for breakfast, and tastes good to me. Like, I would rather go without
toast completely if I can't slather on butter - the low fat margarines

make

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toast soggy. So, this morning, after an hour of looking, I made a veggie omelet, with lots of
onions, tomatoes, mushrooms, and Egg Beaters, light toast (I "buttered" it cold so nothing got
soggy) and coffee with

sweetener

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(one good thing, for me, is I like coffee fixed most anyway, so while I usually drink it black,
adding low fat non dairy creamer and sweetener

makes

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it almost a dessert). Now I'm going to put this breakfast on paper, and start keeping a book of
successful meals to refer to.

The second thing I think will help me enormously is this group.

Sharon

Hi Sharon. I joined WW three times before it "stuck", and there are many others like us. This group
of real people is a huge help! After one and a half years of WW this time I tried my first WW
reciepe about a month ago. I found it much easier to just modify what I normally ate rather than
completely starting from scratch.

Anyway, here's the official welcome notice that helps explain what the group's all about. It really
is one of the nicest groups out there.

Welcome to this great newsgroup where you'll receive lots of support, advice, and encouragement.
Once a week on Sundays, I post a list of links that newcomers to asdww might find useful. You may
want to look for that later in the week, or do a backwards search for last Sunday's post.

In the meantime, here's our FAQ: didian.comasdwwOpen ↗ our welcome notice:
geocities.comindex.htmlOpen ↗

Frequently seen acronyms on this NG: NSV = Non-Scale Victory WOE = Way of Eating WOL = Way of Life
(Living) OP = on Points or On Program DH = Dear or Darling Husband
DS/DD/DGD/etc = Dear or Darling Son, Daughter, Granddaughter, etc WI = Weigh-in

Amberle3's Challenges:

THTP - Take Heart, Take Part Exercise Challenge: angelfire.comthtp.htmOpen ↗

RafL - Resolutions are for Losers Weight Loss Challenge:
angelfire.comrafl.htmOpen ↗

Other acronyms: wwlissa.com100+acronyms.htmOpen ↗

Here's a short synopsis of the USA program by Joyce -

How many points you can eat is only based on your current weight, as you lose weight those points
allowed will decrease (logic is that your body will need less to operate). At 183 pounds and based
on the new US flexpoints system, you will have a set point target of 24. In addition to this you are
allowed 35 flexpoints to be used throughout the week ... as well as any activity points you earn on
a particular day. When your weight drops to 175, your target drops to 22 points ... weight reaches
150, target once again drop to 20 points. 3 servings of dairy of recommended per day, 5 servings of
fruit and veggies, minimum of 6 glasses of water.

To calculate food and activity points, I love this computer desktop calculator ...
zythra.compoints.exeOpen ↗

The basic plan is easy. Eat at least your minimum daily number of points. Points do not carry over
from day to day. You are allotted 35 weekly flexpoints to be used at your discretion ... can divide
them up and use daily (would be an additional 5 points per day) or save them and use them for a
special occassion during the week. Activity points are earned based when exercising, but can ONLY be
used on the day they are earned.

If you can afford $15/month, the online ww program might be a great thing for you to look into.
There is lots of information available, as well as the food point database and journaling system.

Joyce WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02 current weight: 133.3 Lifetime: 4/4/03

Please note that if you live in onther countries (UK, Australia, NZ, Europe), the Points plans are
different. The UK and Australia/NZ calculate points based on saturated fat and total kilojoules.
Most of Europe calculates based on total fat and total kilojoules. The desktop calculator above can
handle all of these programs.

Disclaimer: As an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup, asdww is unusual in that most of the people who
participate are respectful, considerate folks who freely share their experience with and knowledge
of WW, weight loss, and maintenance. Yet occasionally, spammers, trolls, and flamers show up to post
advertising, false information, insults, and the like. Nearly all of the time, people like this are
just trying to yank someone's chain. Most of the regulars on this newsgroup offer their experience
as a suggestion to try if you're stuck, but are quick to advise that each person has to find what
works for him/herself. If someone posts something that doesn't sound right to you, ask the
newsgroup, ask your WW leader, or ask your health professional.

Much success on your weight loss journey! WW works!

--
Julie.
93.5/72.3/74 (WW)/72 (Personal) kg
93.5/73./162.8 (WW)/158 (Personal) lb

Here's our FAQ: didian.comasdwwOpen ↗ and welcome notice:
geocities.comindex.htmlOpen ↗

"Sharon & Jack" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I just joined WW this week (for about the 10th time over the last 30

years),

Quoted message said:

and this morning the thought occurred to me that maybe there was a group

of

Quoted message said:

"real" people helping each other on the newsgroups.

I sabotage myself very well. I hate behavior modification when it's obvious, hate journaling, and
I'm not a big fan of the recipes, either. Hmm - sabotage attempting to rear it's nasty head
already. But............this time I really need to succeed, for both myself and my daughter. We
both have health issues that our weight is seriously affecting, so I need to deflect the anger (my
in-laws are all skinny

mini's

Quoted message said:

who like to give advice), and get on with this.

It takes me forever to figure out what I can eat, checking points, so I've always tended to eat
the "bare bones" instead of really preparing dishes. And of course, then I get bored, and head for
the "good" old stuff.

This time, I THINK I've maybe hit on something that will help us (DD and
me). I sat down this morning, and used a magic marker to write the points on the containers of
cream cheese, margarine, jelly, etc. So I don't have to continually check (I know that
knowledge will become second nature if I can stick to this). Then I looked around at what I am
actually willing to eat for breakfast, and tastes good to me. Like, I would rather go without
toast completely if I can't slather on butter - the low fat margarines

make

Quoted message said:

toast soggy. So, this morning, after an hour of looking, I made a veggie omelet, with lots of
onions, tomatoes, mushrooms, and Egg Beaters, light toast (I "buttered" it cold so nothing got
soggy) and coffee with

sweetener

Quoted message said:

(one good thing, for me, is I like coffee fixed most anyway, so while I usually drink it black,
adding low fat non dairy creamer and sweetener

makes

Quoted message said:

it almost a dessert). Now I'm going to put this breakfast on paper, and start keeping a book of
successful meals to refer to.

The second thing I think will help me enormously is this group.

Sharon

Well Hi and welcome. I joined at least 20 times before the Last time this past Feb 2002, and I have
been at goal for 6 months now. Journal!!!! Make yourself a challenge to do it for a month. Staple
that thing to your head or something 🙂!! You Can Do This. I love a bacon lettuce and tomato with
light miracle whip for breakfast. Or grilled lowfat cheese sandwich with sliced tomatoes. Or cereal,
skim milk and fruit. Or oatmeal. Or one of those new low fat tortillas with your omelet wrapped in
it. Many of them are one point.

"Sharon & Jack" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I just joined WW this week (for about the 10th time over the last 30

years),

Quoted message said:

and this morning the thought occurred to me that maybe there was a group

of

Quoted message said:

"real" people helping each other on the newsgroups.

I sabotage myself very well. I hate behavior modification when it's obvious, hate journaling, and
I'm not a big fan of the recipes, either. Hmm - sabotage attempting to rear it's nasty head
already. But............this time I really need to succeed, for both myself and my daughter. We
both have health issues that our weight is seriously affecting, so I need to deflect the anger (my
in-laws are all skinny

mini's

Quoted message said:

who like to give advice), and get on with this.

It takes me forever to figure out what I can eat, checking points, so I've always tended to eat
the "bare bones" instead of really preparing dishes. And of course, then I get bored, and head for
the "good" old stuff.

This time, I THINK I've maybe hit on something that will help us (DD and
me). I sat down this morning, and used a magic marker to write the points on the containers of
cream cheese, margarine, jelly, etc. So I don't have to continually check (I know that
knowledge will become second nature if I can stick to this). Then I looked around at what I am
actually willing to eat for breakfast, and tastes good to me. Like, I would rather go without
toast completely if I can't slather on butter - the low fat margarines

make

Quoted message said:

toast soggy. So, this morning, after an hour of looking, I made a veggie omelet, with lots of
onions, tomatoes, mushrooms, and Egg Beaters, light toast (I "buttered" it cold so nothing got
soggy) and coffee with

sweetener

Quoted message said:

(one good thing, for me, is I like coffee fixed most anyway, so while I usually drink it black,
adding low fat non dairy creamer and sweetener

makes

Quoted message said:

it almost a dessert). Now I'm going to put this breakfast on paper, and start keeping a book of
successful meals to refer to.

The second thing I think will help me enormously is this group.

Sharon

Sharon:

You've just started and you've already had your first NSV (non-scale victory). You were able to
solve a meal problem without doing without and without going back to old stuff. Congratulations!!

Welcome to the group!! You will really like it here!!

--

Cheers,

Connie Walsh

241.5/201.5/155 RAFL 210.5/201.5/198.5

Sharon & Jack said:

I just joined WW this week (for about the 10th time over the last 30 years), and this morning the
thought occurred to me that maybe there was a group of "real" people helping each other on the
newsgroups.

I sabotage myself very well. I hate behavior modification when it's obvious, hate journaling, and
I'm not a big fan of the recipes, either. Hmm - sabotage attempting to rear it's nasty head
already. But............this time I really need to succeed, for both myself and my daughter. We
both have health issues that our weight is seriously affecting, so I need to deflect the anger (my
in-laws are all skinny mini's who like to give advice), and get on with this.

It takes me forever to figure out what I can eat, checking points, so I've always tended to eat
the "bare bones" instead of really preparing dishes. And of course, then I get bored, and head for
the "good" old stuff.

This time, I THINK I've maybe hit on something that will help us (DD and
me). I sat down this morning, and used a magic marker to write the points on the containers of
cream cheese, margarine, jelly, etc. So I don't have to continually check (I know that
knowledge will become second nature if I can stick to this). Then I looked around at what I am
actually willing to eat for breakfast, and tastes good to me. Like, I would rather go without
toast completely if I can't slather on butter - the low fat margarines make toast soggy. So,
this morning, after an hour of looking, I made a veggie omelet, with lots of onions, tomatoes,
mushrooms, and Egg Beaters, light toast (I "buttered" it cold so nothing got soggy) and coffee
with sweetener (one good thing, for me, is I like coffee fixed most anyway, so while I usually
drink it black, adding low fat non dairy creamer and sweetener makes it almost a dessert). Now
I'm going to put this breakfast on paper, and start keeping a book of successful meals to
refer to.

The second thing I think will help me enormously is this group.

Sharon

Hi Sharon and welcome.

I too just started to modify my life to a healthier WOL (way of life/living). I'm taking baby steps
that are really paying off. I have to say that this group has a lot to do with it and it's one of
the nicer groups that I've seen online for quite some time.

Julie

"Sharon & Jack" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I just joined WW this week (for about the 10th time over the last 30

years),

Quoted message said:

and this morning the thought occurred to me that maybe there was a group

of

Quoted message said:

"real" people helping each other on the newsgroups.

I sabotage myself very well. I hate behavior modification when it's obvious, hate journaling, and
I'm not a big fan of the recipes, either. Hmm - sabotage attempting to rear it's nasty head
already. But............this time I really need to succeed, for both myself and my daughter. We
both have health issues that our weight is seriously affecting, so I need to deflect the anger (my
in-laws are all skinny

mini's

Quoted message said:

who like to give advice), and get on with this.

It takes me forever to figure out what I can eat, checking points, so I've always tended to eat
the "bare bones" instead of really preparing dishes. And of course, then I get bored, and head for
the "good" old stuff.

This time, I THINK I've maybe hit on something that will help us (DD and
me). I sat down this morning, and used a magic marker to write the points on the containers of
cream cheese, margarine, jelly, etc. So I don't have to continually check (I know that
knowledge will become second nature if I can stick to this). Then I looked around at what I am
actually willing to eat for breakfast, and tastes good to me. Like, I would rather go without
toast completely if I can't slather on butter - the low fat margarines

make

Quoted message said:

toast soggy. So, this morning, after an hour of looking, I made a veggie omelet, with lots of
onions, tomatoes, mushrooms, and Egg Beaters, light toast (I "buttered" it cold so nothing got
soggy) and coffee with

sweetener

Quoted message said:

(one good thing, for me, is I like coffee fixed most anyway, so while I usually drink it black,
adding low fat non dairy creamer and sweetener

makes

Quoted message said:

it almost a dessert). Now I'm going to put this breakfast on paper, and start keeping a book of
successful meals to refer to.

The second thing I think will help me enormously is this group.

Sharon

Thanks for the welcome, and Lesanne - thanks for the breakfast hints. I'd have never thought of the
BLT or the grilled cheese for breakfast, but I love them both!

Sharon

Breakfast is a real problem for me, so I have lots of options. Another one is peanut butter on
toast. Sometimes with half a sliced banana on it.

"Sharon & Jack" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Thanks for the welcome, and Lesanne - thanks for the breakfast hints. I'd have never thought of
the BLT or the grilled cheese for breakfast, but I love them both!

Sharon

Welcome, Sharon! You 'll love this group, without all my friends here I would never have
gotten so far.
--
Nathalie from Belgium
134.1/101.1/minigoal 99.9 Goal 68 Kg
134.1/101.2/minigoal 220.3/Goal 150 pounds RAFL 105.3/101.4/96 Kg
134/1.102/212 lbs "Sharon & Jack" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I just joined WW this week (for about the 10th time over the last 30

years),

Quoted message said:

and this morning the thought occurred to me that maybe there was a group

of

Quoted message said:

"real" people helping each other on the newsgroups.

I sabotage myself very well. I hate behavior modification when it's obvious, hate journaling, and
I'm not a big fan of the recipes, either. Hmm - sabotage attempting to rear it's nasty head
already. But............this time I really need to succeed, for both myself and my daughter. We
both have health issues that our weight is seriously affecting, so I need to deflect the anger (my
in-laws are all skinny

mini's

Quoted message said:

who like to give advice), and get on with this.

It takes me forever to figure out what I can eat, checking points, so I've always tended to eat
the "bare bones" instead of really preparing dishes. And of course, then I get bored, and head for
the "good" old stuff.

This time, I THINK I've maybe hit on something that will help us (DD and
me). I sat down this morning, and used a magic marker to write the points on the containers of
cream cheese, margarine, jelly, etc. So I don't have to continually check (I know that
knowledge will become second nature if I can stick to this). Then I looked around at what I am
actually willing to eat for breakfast, and tastes good to me. Like, I would rather go without
toast completely if I can't slather on butter - the low fat margarines

make

Quoted message said:

toast soggy. So, this morning, after an hour of looking, I made a veggie omelet, with lots of
onions, tomatoes, mushrooms, and Egg Beaters, light toast (I "buttered" it cold so nothing got
soggy) and coffee with

sweetener

Quoted message said:

(one good thing, for me, is I like coffee fixed most anyway, so while I usually drink it black,
adding low fat non dairy creamer and sweetener

makes

Quoted message said:

it almost a dessert). Now I'm going to put this breakfast on paper, and start keeping a book of
successful meals to refer to.

The second thing I think will help me enormously is this group.

Sharon

try raisins on that for another variation, Lee
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Breakfast is a real problem for me, so I have lots of options. Another

one

Quoted message said:

is peanut butter on toast. Sometimes with half a sliced banana on it.

"Sharon & Jack" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

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Thanks for the welcome, and Lesanne - thanks for the breakfast hints.

I'd

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have never thought of the BLT or the grilled cheese for breakfast, but I love them both!

Sharon