Rafl wk 7

Oh yummy, curries! But you 're right, they 're bad for you.
Congrats on the 5lb loss anyway, and just prove that scale that you can go
beyond 202 next week!
I just realise that you 're struggling with getting under 200 exactly like I
'm struggling to get beyond 100 Kg. It 's as if there were some kind of
psychological barrier to get below that number. I keep gaining and losing
the same pounds again but never get below 100. Frustrating isn't it? I 'm
trying again this week, care to join me in the effort ?
Oh by the way your sig still says 207 :-)

--
Nathalie from Belgium
134.1/101.4/minigoal 99.9 Goal 68 Kg
134.1/101.5/minigoal 220.3/Goal 150 pounds RAFL 105.3/101.4/96 Kg
134/1.102/212 lbs "ray miller" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Last week I was up quite a bit (5lbs) due to a trip and what I'd hoped was water retention. This
week back down 5 to 202 again. which is back to where I was before the trip. I'm not especially
pleased 'cos I've been OP all week and hoped that I might get below 202. It means I was less
diligent on the trip than I thought, and that curries have more calories than I had guessed. I
siuppose I had gained 1-2 lbs on the trip and lost that again last week the rest was water.

live and learn and then back OP 🙂

Ray

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rmnsuk
273/207/182

Yeah. Back on. Good. 🙂
"ray miller" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Last week I was up quite a bit (5lbs) due to a trip and what I'd hoped was water retention. This
week back down 5 to 202 again. which is back to where I was before the trip. I'm not especially
pleased 'cos I've been OP all week and hoped that I might get below 202. It means I was less
diligent on the trip than I thought, and that curries have more calories than I had guessed. I
siuppose I had gained 1-2 lbs on the trip and lost that again last week the rest was water.

live and learn and then back OP 🙂

Ray

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rmnsuk
273/207/182

Hi, Ray, Congratulations on your loss. You are doing great, even if you don't think so.
--
Take Care Catherine
154/132.8/136 Lifetime 6/99 Next personal goal 132

"ray miller" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Last week I was up quite a bit (5lbs) due to a trip and what I'd hoped was water retention. This
week back down 5 to 202 again. which is back to where I was before the trip. I'm not especially
pleased 'cos I've been OP all week and hoped that I might get below 202. It means I was less
diligent on the trip than I thought, and that curries have more calories than I had guessed. I
siuppose I had gained 1-2 lbs on the trip and lost that again last week the rest was water.

live and learn and then back OP 🙂

Ray

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rmnsuk
273/207/182

Well, returning to pre-trip weight after one week is pretty good even if not what was hoped. I think
there is a lot more oil/ghee in curries and Indian food than we know. Good but point dense.

ray miller said:

Last week I was up quite a bit (5lbs) due to a trip and what I'd hoped was water retention. This
week back down 5 to 202 again. which is back to where I was before the trip. I'm not especially
pleased 'cos I've been OP all week and hoped that I might get below 202. It means I was less
diligent on the trip than I thought, and that curries have more calories than I had guessed. I
siuppose I had gained 1-2 lbs on the trip and lost that again last week the rest was water.

live and learn and then back OP 🙂

Ray

Sorry you didn't get as low as you hoped/expected. But good job on getting back to where you were
before your trip. Staying OP for another week should get you lower next week.

Prairie Roots

ray miller said:

Last week I was up quite a bit (5lbs) due to a trip and what I'd hoped was water retention. This
week back down 5 to 202 again. which is back to where I was before the trip. I'm not especially
pleased 'cos I've been OP all week and hoped that I might get below 202. It means I was less
diligent on the trip than I thought, and that curries have more calories than I had guessed. I
siuppose I had gained 1-2 lbs on the trip and lost that again last week the rest was water.

live and learn and then back OP 🙂

Ray

On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:45:28 +0100, "Nathalie W" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Oh yummy, curries! But you 're right, they 're bad for you. Congrats on the 5lb loss anyway, and
just prove that scale that you can go beyond 202 next week! I just realise that you 're struggling
with getting under 200 exactly like I 'm struggling to get beyond 100 Kg. It 's as if there were
some kind of psychological barrier to get below that number. I keep gaining and losing the same
pounds again but never get below 100. Frustrating isn't it? I 'm trying again this week, care to
join me in the effort ? Oh by the way your sig still says 207 :-)

I've been trying for months to get under 200. Things have always got in the way. Holiday,
christmas, work, this trip. My BF% has come down considerably, so the fat is going but the weight
still hangs in there.

Yes I'll join you. Just three pounds for me, and 4 and a bit for you? I can't get to grips with
kilos. They came in after I left school🙂 Having said that I lifted 50 kilo+the bar in the bench
press for the first time today. That 60% of my bodyweight. The nice thing is that if I can get below
200 and still lift the same it'll be 62% hehe 🙂

Sig changed thx 🙂

Ray
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rmnsuk
273/202/182

ray miller said:

Last week I was up quite a bit (5lbs) due to a trip and what I'd hoped was water retention. This
week back down 5 to 202 again. which is back to where I was before the trip. I'm not especially
pleased 'cos I've been OP all week and hoped that I might get below 202. It means I was less
diligent on the trip than I thought, and that curries have more calories than I had guessed. I
siuppose I had gained 1-2 lbs on the trip and lost that again last week the rest was water.

live and learn and then back OP 🙂

Ray

Losing 5 is great no matter what!! Congrats!!

--

Cheers,

Connie Walsh

241.5/202/155 RAFL 210.5/202/198.5

you are back in the right direction, OP and you learned, all in all a good
week, Lee
ray miller <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Last week I was up quite a bit (5lbs) due to a trip and what I'd hoped was water retention. This
week back down 5 to 202 again. which is back to where I was before the trip. I'm not especially
pleased 'cos I've been OP all week and hoped that I might get below 202. It means I was less
diligent on the trip than I thought, and that curries have more calories than I had guessed. I
siuppose I had gained 1-2 lbs on the trip and lost that again last week the rest was water.

live and learn and then back OP 🙂

Ray

--
rmnsuk
273/207/182

and here is a question for both of you, were you in this general vicinity
for a while on the way up? My leader said that a stall can occur for many
reasons, but the least looked at is the fact that your body remembers being
this weight before and can consider it a "set point", Lee
ray miller <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Nathalie W said:

Oh yummy, curries! But you 're right, they 're bad for you. Congrats on the 5lb loss anyway, and
just prove that scale that you can

go

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

beyond 202 next week! I just realise that you 're struggling with getting under 200 exactly

like I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

'm struggling to get beyond 100 Kg. It 's as if there were some kind of psychological barrier to
get below that number. I keep gaining and losing the same pounds again but never get below 100.
Frustrating isn't it? I 'm trying again this week, care to join me in the effort ? Oh by the way
your sig still says 207 :-)

I've been trying for months to get under 200. Things have always got in the way. Holiday,
christmas, work, this trip. My BF% has come down considerably, so the fat is going but the weight
still hangs in there.

Yes I'll join you. Just three pounds for me, and 4 and a bit for you? I can't get to grips with
kilos. They came in after I left school🙂 Having said that I lifted 50 kilo+the bar in the bench
press for the first time today. That 60% of my bodyweight. The nice thing is that if I can get
below 200 and still lift the same it'll be 62% hehe 🙂

Sig changed thx 🙂

Ray
--
rmnsuk
273/202/182

Miss Violette said:

and here is a question for both of you, were you in this general vicinity for a while on the way
up? My leader said that a stall can occur for many reasons, but the least looked at is the fact
that your body remembers being this weight before and can consider it a "set point", Lee

Thats interesting Lee. I've read a little about set points and never really considered the theory
valid. I'll keep an open mind and do some more research.

In my case I think I've been unlucky with holidays and such. Though I did have a 4 week period on
200 just before going to Goa. 200 pounds is just over 14 stone. I can't remember really whether I
weighed 14+ stone for long. I think I was at 13/13.5 for a long time

Its been 31 weeks since I last reached 202 In that time I've lost 34 pounds. Unfortunately I've also
put on 34 pounds! So I've found a major weakness. I don't/won't control my eating when I'm away from
home. I knew that was true but I didn't realize exactly how bad it was. If I'd controlled my
calories during those periods I'd be way under goal by now!!!

I'm frustrated but not really put off. I know I can do it, it just takes so long. 200 is close, and
I'm feeling good and eating well. so unless life gets in the way (again) I'm set to be in onderland
in the next three weeks !

Ray

02/08/03 201 wk 4 - 14st 5lbs
02/09/03 204 wk 5 - 14st 8lbs - way off program
02/10/03 202 wk 6 - 14st 6lbs - back op
02/11/03 201 wk 7 - 14st 5lbs - still op
02/12/03 203 **********holiday - pickering
02/13/03 207 wk 9 - 14st 11lbs
02/14/03 205 wk10 - 14st 9lbs
02/15/03 203 wk 11 - 14st 7lbs
02/16/03 201 end of swwc
02/17/03 205 ***********?????
02/18/03 202
02/19/03 201 200
02/20/03 200 200
02/21/03 200? 210 - but faulty reading?
02/22/03 200
02/23/03 200 goa 15/11/03
02/24/03
02/25/03 215 **********holiday goa
02/26/03 209 back in uk
02/27/03 209
02/28/03 207
02/29/03 210 **********christmas
02/30/04 209 rafl start
02/31/04 207 wk 1
02/32/04 205 wk 2
02/33/04 206 wk 3
02/34/04 203 wk 4
02/35/04 202 wk 5
02/36/04 207 **********training course
02/37/04 202 wk 7

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rmnsuk
02/38/182

I never put much stock in it until I had about twelve weeks of not doing
anything but bounce, I was alreadoing, on points, water and healthy, so I
decided to ride it out, I was was rewarded with a loss of 4.8 and 5.2 back
to back weeks, Lee
ray miller <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Miss Violette said:

and here is a question for both of you, were you in this general vicinity for a while on the way
up? My leader said that a stall can occur for

many

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

reasons, but the least looked at is the fact that your body remembers

being

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

this weight before and can consider it a "set point", Lee

Thats interesting Lee. I've read a little about set points and never really considered the theory
valid. I'll keep an open mind and do some more research.

In my case I think I've been unlucky with holidays and such. Though I did have a 4 week period on
200 just before going to Goa. 200 pounds is just over 14 stone. I can't remember really whether I
weighed 14+ stone for long. I think I was at 13/13.5 for a long time

Its been 31 weeks since I last reached 202 In that time I've lost 34 pounds. Unfortunately I've
also put on 34 pounds! So I've found a major weakness. I don't/won't control my eating when I'm
away from home. I knew that was true but I didn't realize exactly how bad it was. If I'd
controlled my calories during those periods I'd be way under goal by now!!!

I'm frustrated but not really put off. I know I can do it, it just takes so long. 200 is close,
and I'm feeling good and eating well. so unless life gets in the way (again) I'm set to be in
onderland in the next three weeks !

Ray

02/08/03 201 wk 4 - 14st 5lbs
09/08/03 204 wk 5 - 14st 8lbs - way off program
16/08/03 202 wk 6 - 14st 6lbs - back op
23/08/03 201 wk 7 - 14st 5lbs - still op
30/08/03 203 **********holiday - pickering
06/09/03 207 wk 9 - 14st 11lbs
13/09/03 205 wk10 - 14st 9lbs
20/09/03 203 wk 11 - 14st 7lbs
27/09/03 201 end of swwc
04/10/03 205 ***********?????
11/10/03 202
18/10/03 201 200
25/10/03 200 200
01/11/03 200? 210 - but faulty reading?
08/11/03 200
15/11/03 200 goa 15/11/03
22/11/03
29/11/03 215 **********holiday goa
06/12/03 209 back in uk
13/12/03 209
20/12/03 207
27/12/03 210 **********christmas
03/01/04 209 rafl start
10/01/04 207 wk 1
17/01/04 205 wk 2
24/01/04 206 wk 3
31/01/04 203 wk 4
07/02/04 202 wk 5
14/02/04 207 **********training course
21/02/04 202 wk 7

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rmnsuk
273/202/182

I 'v been hovering around 100 Kg for years, at school and then at university, so yes it does make
sense in my case. But please don't tell me I will stay at this weight for another 4-5 years :-) Not
only is it a kind of set point but it 's also a psychological barrier. Below 100 is overweight but
not grossly overweight. See, when people here talk about somebody they think is really fat, they
will always say that the person must weigh 100 Kg. And now people tell me I look so good, and what
do I weigh ? 100 Kg. People are strange...
--
Nathalie from Belgium
134.1/101.4/minigoal 99.9 Goal 68 Kg
134.1/101.5/minigoal 220.3/Goal 150 pounds RAFL 105.3/101.4/96 Kg
134/1.102/212 lbs "Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
berlin.de...

Quoted message said:

I never put much stock in it until I had about twelve weeks of not doing anything but bounce, I
was alreadoing, on points, water and healthy, so I decided to ride it out, I was was rewarded with
a loss of 4.8 and 5.2 back to back weeks, Lee ray miller <[email hidden]> wrote in
message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Miss Violette said:

and here is a question for both of you, were you in this general

vicinity

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

for a while on the way up? My leader said that a stall can occur for

many

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

reasons, but the least looked at is the fact that your body remembers

being

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

this weight before and can consider it a "set point", Lee

Thats interesting Lee. I've read a little about set points and never really considered the
theory valid. I'll keep an open mind and do some more research.

In my case I think I've been unlucky with holidays and such. Though I did have a 4 week period
on 200 just before going to Goa. 200 pounds is just over 14 stone. I can't remember really
whether I weighed 14+ stone for long. I think I was at 13/13.5 for a long time

Its been 31 weeks since I last reached 202 In that time I've lost 34 pounds. Unfortunately I've
also put on 34 pounds! So I've found a major weakness. I don't/won't control my eating when I'm
away from home. I knew that was true but I didn't realize exactly how bad it was. If I'd
controlled my calories during those periods I'd be way under goal by now!!!

I'm frustrated but not really put off. I know I can do it, it just takes so long. 200 is close,
and I'm feeling good and eating well. so unless life gets in the way (again) I'm set to be in
onderland in the next three weeks !

Ray

02/08/03 201 wk 4 - 14st 5lbs
09/08/03 204 wk 5 - 14st 8lbs - way off program
16/08/03 202 wk 6 - 14st 6lbs - back op
23/08/03 201 wk 7 - 14st 5lbs - still op
30/08/03 203 **********holiday - pickering
06/09/03 207 wk 9 - 14st 11lbs
13/09/03 205 wk10 - 14st 9lbs
20/09/03 203 wk 11 - 14st 7lbs
27/09/03 201 end of swwc
04/10/03 205 ***********?????
11/10/03 202
18/10/03 201 200
25/10/03 200 200
01/11/03 200? 210 - but faulty reading?
08/11/03 200
15/11/03 200 goa 15/11/03
22/11/03
29/11/03 215 **********holiday goa
06/12/03 209 back in uk
13/12/03 209
20/12/03 207
27/12/03 210 **********christmas
03/01/04 209 rafl start
10/01/04 207 wk 1
17/01/04 205 wk 2
24/01/04 206 wk 3
31/01/04 203 wk 4
07/02/04 202 wk 5
14/02/04 207 **********training course
21/02/04 202 wk 7

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rmnsuk
273/202/182

No I was on my stall for a total of 16 weeks I think I lost a total of three
pounds before the breakthrough, then I shed a bunch and then slowed back
down, here it is over two hundred pounds or over two fifty depending on the
conversation, I know it took a bit for me to deal with two hundred as I had
managed for so many years to stay just below that, whatever the case, you
are not a quitter so I have every faith you will reach your goals, Lee
Nathalie W <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I 'v been hovering around 100 Kg for years, at school and then at university, so yes it does make
sense in my case. But please don't tell me

I

Quoted message said:

will stay at this weight for another 4-5 years :-) Not only is it a kind

of

Quoted message said:

set point but it 's also a psychological barrier. Below 100 is overweight but not grossly
overweight. See, when people here talk about somebody they think is really fat, they will always
say that the person must weigh 100

Kg.

Quoted message said:

And now people tell me I look so good, and what do I weigh ? 100 Kg.

People

Quoted message said:

are strange...
--
Nathalie from Belgium
134.1/101.4/minigoal 99.9 Goal 68 Kg
295.6/223.5/minigoal 220.3/Goal 150 pounds RAFL 105.3/101.4/96 Kg
232/223.5/212 lbs "Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
berlin.de...

Quoted message said:

I never put much stock in it until I had about twelve weeks of not doing anything but bounce, I
was alreadoing, on points, water and healthy, so

I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

decided to ride it out, I was was rewarded with a loss of 4.8 and 5.2

back

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to back weeks, Lee ray miller <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 15:17:35 -0600, "Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote:

>and here is a question for both of you, were you in this general

vicinity

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>for a while on the way up? My leader said that a stall can occur for

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

many

Quoted message said:

>reasons, but the least looked at is the fact that your body remembers

being

Quoted message said:

>this weight before and can consider it a "set point", Lee

Thats interesting Lee. I've read a little about set points and never really considered the
theory valid. I'll keep an open mind and do some more research.

In my case I think I've been unlucky with holidays and such. Though I did have a 4 week period
on 200 just before going to Goa. 200 pounds is just over 14 stone. I can't remember really
whether I weighed 14+ stone for long. I think I was at 13/13.5 for a long time

Its been 31 weeks since I last reached 202 In that time I've lost 34 pounds. Unfortunately
I've also put on 34 pounds! So I've found a major weakness. I don't/won't control my eating
when I'm away from home. I knew that was true but I didn't realize exactly how bad it was. If
I'd controlled my calories during those periods I'd be way under goal by now!!!

I'm frustrated but not really put off. I know I can do it, it just takes so long. 200 is
close, and I'm feeling good and eating well. so unless life gets in the way (again) I'm set to
be in onderland in the next three weeks !

Ray

02/08/03 201 wk 4 - 14st 5lbs
09/08/03 204 wk 5 - 14st 8lbs - way off program
16/08/03 202 wk 6 - 14st 6lbs - back op
23/08/03 201 wk 7 - 14st 5lbs - still op
30/08/03 203 **********holiday - pickering
06/09/03 207 wk 9 - 14st 11lbs
13/09/03 205 wk10 - 14st 9lbs
20/09/03 203 wk 11 - 14st 7lbs
27/09/03 201 end of swwc
04/10/03 205 ***********?????
11/10/03 202
18/10/03 201 200
25/10/03 200 200
01/11/03 200? 210 - but faulty reading?
08/11/03 200
15/11/03 200 goa 15/11/03
22/11/03
29/11/03 215 **********holiday goa
06/12/03 209 back in uk
13/12/03 209
20/12/03 207
27/12/03 210 **********christmas
03/01/04 209 rafl start
10/01/04 207 wk 1
17/01/04 205 wk 2
24/01/04 206 wk 3
31/01/04 203 wk 4
07/02/04 202 wk 5
14/02/04 207 **********training course
21/02/04 202 wk 7

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rmnsuk
273/202/182

ray miller said:

Last week I was up quite a bit (5lbs) due to a trip and what I'd hoped was water retention. This
week back down 5 to 202 again. which is back to where I was before the trip. I'm not especially
pleased 'cos I've been OP all week and hoped that I might get below 202. It means I was less
diligent on the trip than I thought, and that curries have more calories than I had guessed. I
siuppose I had gained 1-2 lbs on the trip and lost that again last week the rest was water.

live and learn and then back OP 🙂

Congrats on losing those 5 pounds Ray. Good luck getting under 200. I know you can do it!

--
Erin in NZ
125/89/75 kgs
125.89/1/165 lbs

RafL goal 180.6lbs (82 kilos)

"It is not the mountain we conquer, it is ourselves" Sir Edmund Hilary

Hey don't worry about that, Ray... you'll get into Onederland soon I think.
🙂

--

~Kristin O~
272/239.4/172

"ray miller" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Last week I was up quite a bit (5lbs) due to a trip and what I'd hoped was water retention. This
week back down 5 to 202 again. which is back to where I was before the trip. I'm not especially
pleased 'cos I've been OP all week and hoped that I might get below 202. It means I was less
diligent on the trip than I thought, and that curries have more calories than I had guessed. I
siuppose I had gained 1-2 lbs on the trip and lost that again last week the rest was water.

live and learn and then back OP 🙂

Ray

--
rmnsuk
273/207/182