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  1. Yes, I'm fond of odd subject titles.

    In any case, I've now taken to adding game meat to my diet, and in my supermarket I can buy packages
    of frozen, mixed game meat (includes reindeer, moose and other such animals, native to Sweden).

    The package contains uniform, square, thin slices, which consist of 90% meat. The package, of 240 g
    (about half a pound) is sliced into 6 or 7 slices.

    The first time I bought it, a few weeks back, I simply fried it up with an onion, a green squash and
    a red pepper. That was quite nice, but I'm looking for other ideas and/or recipes for this meat.
    Please keep in mind that my experience with cooking meat is very small, and that I'd prefer to also
    have some vegetables in the dish.
    --
    Nikitta a.a. #1759 Apatriot(No, not apricot)#18 ICQ# 251532856 Unreferenced footnotes: nut.house.cxcgi
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  2. "MEow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Yes, I'm fond of odd subject titles.

    In any case, I've now taken to adding game meat to my diet, and in my supermarket I can buy
    packages of frozen, mixed game meat (includes reindeer, moose and other such animals, native to
    Sweden).

    The package contains uniform, square, thin slices, which consist of 90% meat. The package, of 240
    g (about half a pound) is sliced into 6 or 7 slices.

    The first time I bought it, a few weeks back, I simply fried it up with an onion, a green squash
    and a red pepper. That was quite nice, but I'm looking for other ideas and/or recipes for this
    meat. Please keep in mind that my experience with cooking meat is very small, and that I'd prefer
    to also have some vegetables in the dish.
    --

    You may already know this, but "wild" meat that you buy like this is often farmed. It can be very
    tasty, but is not the same as the real thing. Also, I would be very suspicious of any "meat" that is
    only 90% meat. What's the other 10%? FWIW I have bought some assortments of "wild" meat from
    www.cabelas.com and it has been very good - and also has been 100% meat!

    --
    Peter Aitken

    Remove the [censored] from my email address before using.

  3. While frolicking around in rec.food.cooking, Peter Aitken of Road Runner

    - NC said:

    You may already know this, but "wild" meat that you buy like this is often farmed. It can be very
    tasty, but is not the same as the real thing.

    I know, but they do get to roam around, as opposed to being locked into crowded places and such
    (AFAIK), so it's okay with me.

    Quoted message said:

    Also, I would be very suspicious of any "meat" that is only 90% meat. What's the other 10%?

    Saltwater, it seems. It seems to be processed somehow, or they wouldn't be able to get those
    uniform, square slices; but it's raw.

    Quoted message said:

    FWIW I have bought some assortments of "wild" meat from www.cabelas.com and it has been very good -
    and also has been 100% meat!

    Not much help to me, as I live in Sweden. I'll take what I can get in the supermarket and make what
    I can from that. Okay, so sometimes I go to speciality shops, but I've got to use what I can buy.
    The "wild" meat I described is fine by me, but I'd like some recipes and ideas as I only know very
    little about cooking meat. Proper wild meat would probably be too expensive for me, so I'll stick to
    this kind.

    BTW: Your name seems familiar to me, but I can't place it.
    --
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  4. "MEow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    While frolicking around in rec.food.cooking, Peter Aitken of Road Runner

    - NC said:

    You may already know this, but "wild" meat that you buy like this is


    often

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    farmed. It can be very tasty, but is not the same as the real thing.

    I know, but they do get to roam around, as opposed to being locked into crowded places and such
    (AFAIK), so it's okay with me.

    Quoted message said:

    Also, I would be very suspicious of any "meat" that is only 90% meat. What's the other 10%?

    Saltwater, it seems. It seems to be processed somehow, or they wouldn't be able to get those
    uniform, square slices; but it's raw.

    Quoted message said:

    FWIW I have bought some assortments of "wild" meat from www.cabelas.com and it has been very good
    - and also has been 100% meat!

    Not much help to me, as I live in Sweden. I'll take what I can get in the supermarket and make
    what I can from that. Okay, so sometimes I go to speciality shops, but I've got to use what I can
    buy. The "wild" meat I described is fine by me, but I'd like some recipes and ideas as I only know
    very little about cooking meat. Proper wild meat would probably be too expensive for me, so I'll
    stick to this kind.

    BTW: Your name seems familiar to me, but I can't place it.
    --

    I recall when I visited Finland that I had some unusual meats - bear and caribou as I recall. I
    think it's best that these are farmed - it would not be good if people could make a profit by going
    into the wild and shooting animals.

    As for my name being familiar - I have written a number of books on computers and programming,
    perhaps that's it?

    --
    Peter Aitken

    Remove the [censored] from my email address before using.

  5. MEow said:

    Yes, I'm fond of odd subject titles.

    In any case, I've now taken to adding game meat to my diet, and in my supermarket I can buy
    packages of frozen, mixed game meat (includes reindeer, moose and other such animals, native to
    Sweden).

    Sorry I don't have the recipe in front of me, but garlic rabbit is very nice. Flour and brown the
    rabbit in olive oil, then place in a large pot with water to nearly cover. Add about 4 cloves of
    garlic. For seasonings/ herbs I recall a bay leaf, some marjoram, salt & pepper. Simmer it over
    medium heat until the rabbit is tender. Add a glassful of white wine and simmer another 5 minutes.

    Jill

  6. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Peter Aitken said:

    "MEow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Yes, I'm fond of odd subject titles.

    In any case, I've now taken to adding game meat to my diet, and in my supermarket I can buy
    packages of frozen, mixed game meat (includes reindeer, moose and other such animals, native to
    Sweden).

    The package contains uniform, square, thin slices, which consist of 90% meat. The package, of
    240 g (about half a pound) is sliced into 6 or 7 slices.

    The first time I bought it, a few weeks back, I simply fried it up with an onion, a green squash
    and a red pepper. That was quite nice, but I'm looking for other ideas and/or recipes for this
    meat. Please keep in mind that my experience with cooking meat is very small, and that I'd
    prefer to also have some vegetables in the dish.
    --

    You may already know this, but "wild" meat that you buy like this is often farmed. It can be very
    tasty, but is not the same as the real thing. Also, I would be very suspicious of any "meat" that
    is only 90% meat. What's the other 10%? FWIW I have bought some assortments of "wild" meat from
    www.cabelas.com and it has been very good - and also has been 100% meat!

    It's not unusual now for "wild" meat and alternative meat producers to do "value added" meat
    products. There have been disscussions about this on the emu and ostrich lists.

    cce.cornell.eduvalueaddmeat.html

    K.

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  7. On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:11:00 +0100, MEow <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Yes, I'm fond of odd subject titles.

    In any case, I've now taken to adding game meat to my diet, and in my supermarket I can buy
    packages of frozen, mixed game meat (includes reindeer, moose and other such animals, native
    to Sweden).

    The package contains uniform, square, thin slices, which consist of 90% meat. The package, of 240 g
    (about half a pound) is sliced into 6 or 7 slices.

    What is the other 10%? I take it this is an industrial product? We get venison from a game farm, but
    it looks like recognizable parts of an animal, except for sausages.

    Quoted message said:

    The first time I bought it, a few weeks back, I simply fried it up with an onion, a green squash
    and a red pepper. That was quite nice, but I'm looking for other ideas and/or recipes for this
    meat. Please keep in mind that my experience with cooking meat is very small, and that I'd prefer
    to also have some vegetables in the dish.

    You could make a sort of Bolognese for some pasta, using oinion, tomatoes, garlic, and maybe an herb
    that would go well with the venison flavor, like perhaps sage or thyme.

    Since it is already in thin slices, you might consider a layered casserole with layers of potato,
    leeks, and whatever other vegetable is handy, between the meat slices.. Maybe some grated cheese on
    top to make a nice crust.

    A soup can be made from almost anything, starting with a chopped onion, some vegetables, starch
    (potatoes, pasta, a grain). Meat that thin doesn't need ot be cooked very long, but raw grain will
    need 20 minutes, as will potatoes.

    You could cut the meat in small pieces and fry it in the onion after the onion is transparent, then
    put in grain and liquid, other vegetables.

    You didn't say what vegetables and other ingredients are readily available where you are. That
    might help.

    Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a

    "Never eat more in a single day than your head weighs." --Jim Harrison

  8. "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...
    : MEow wrote:
    : > Yes, I'm fond of odd subject titles.
    : >
    : > In any case, I've now taken to adding game meat to my diet,
    and in my
    : > supermarket I can buy packages of frozen, mixed game meat
    (includes
    : > reindeer, moose and other such animals, native to Sweden).
    :
    : Sorry I don't have the recipe in front of me, but garlic rabbit
    is very
    : nice. Flour and brown the rabbit in olive oil, then place in a
    large pot
    : with water to nearly cover. Add about 4 cloves of garlic. For
    seasonings/
    : herbs I recall a bay leaf, some marjoram, salt & pepper.
    Simmer it over
    : medium heat until the rabbit is tender. Add a glassful of
    white wine and
    : simmer another 5 minutes.
    :
    : Jill
    :
    ======================

    This is about the only way I've been making rabbit for the last ten years.

    Squirrel (Rabbit) Stroganoff-style

    6-7 slices Bacon, diced 2 Squirrels (1 rabbit) cut into serving pieces
    3/4 cup Flour 2 1/2 tsp dry Mustard 1 1/2 tsp Thyme
    4/2 tsp Pepper 1 1/2 tsp Salt
    5/4 cup Chicken Broth 1 large Onion, diced 4 oz Mushrooms, sliced 1 TBSP Butter 2 cups Sour cream
    Grapes, halved (handful of)
    6/4 cup Sherry Minced Parsley

    Fry Bacon until crisp and set aside.

    Roll meat pieces in the flour mixed with herbs/spices, using all of the flour mixture if possible,
    and brown meat over medium heat. Takes about 15 minutes to do this.

    Add the chicken broth, cover and simmer until the saddle pieces seem tender (15 minutes)

    While the meat is simmering, sauté the onion and then the mushrooms in butter and set aside.

    When done, remove the meat temporarily and stir in the sour cream, grapes, onion & mushrooms. Make
    sure the sour cream melds with the other ingredients and if necessary, add a bit of hot water.
    Simmer for 5 minutes but do not let it boil.

    Now stir in the sherry, add bacon & meat and simmer just until the meat is heated again. Garnish
    with parsley.

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    Cyndi <Remove a "b" to reply

  9. While frolicking around in rec.food.cooking, Peter Aitken of Road Runner

    - NC said:

    As for my name being familiar - I have written a number of books on computers and programming,
    perhaps that's it?

    Not unless some of them has been computer books on Absolute Beginner's level.
    --
    Nikitta a.a. #1759 Apatriot(No, not apricot)#18 ICQ# 251532856 Unreferenced footnotes: nut.house.cxcgi
    bin/nemwiki.pl?ISFN "If you are going to take the kooks way out on this and believe what other kooks
    tell you, there is no way to choose between them" - Eric Gill (a.a.)

  10. While frolicking around in rec.food.cooking, Rodney Myrvaagnes of Global

    Network Services - Remote Access Mail & News Services said:
    Quoted message said:

    The package contains uniform, square, thin slices, which consist of 90% meat. The package, of 240
    g (about half a pound) is sliced into 6 or 7 slices.

    What is the other 10%? I take it this is an industrial product? We get venison from a game farm,
    but it looks like recognizable parts of an animal, except for sausages.


    The other 10% seems to be saltwater, and yes - it is an industrial product. It's what I can get
    around here.

    Quoted message said:

    You could make a sort of Bolognese for some pasta, using oinion, tomatoes, garlic, and maybe an
    herb that would go well with the venison flavor, like perhaps sage or thyme.

    Can you suggest a good recipe? I found so many recipes when googling that I had no chance of
    deciding which would be best for the kind of meat I've described.

    Quoted message said:


    Since it is already in thin slices, you might consider a layered casserole with layers of potato,
    leeks, and whatever other vegetable is handy, between the meat slices.. Maybe some grated cheese on
    top to make a nice crust.


    Now *that* could be very interesting. Any idea of approximate baking-time and temperature?

    Quoted message said:

    A soup can be made from almost anything, starting with a chopped onion, some vegetables, starch
    (potatoes, pasta, a grain). Meat that thin doesn't need ot be cooked very long, but raw grain will
    need 20 minutes, as will potatoes.

    You could cut the meat in small pieces and fry it in the onion after the onion is transparent, then
    put in grain and liquid, other vegetables.


    I could try that, yes.

    Quoted message said:

    You didn't say what vegetables and other ingredients are readily available where you are. That
    might help.


    Vegetables such as green squash, cauliflower, carrots, spinach and probably some others (funny how
    it's so hard to think of the things which are most common and everyday kind of things to you) are
    extremely common and easy to get here. I live in Stockholm, in an area with many immigrants, so it's
    not *that* hard for me to get different sorts of ingredients.
    --
    Nikitta a.a. #1759 Apatriot(No, not apricot)#18 ICQ# 251532856 Unreferenced footnotes: nut.house.cxcgi
    bin/nemwiki.pl?ISFN "If you are going to take the kooks way out on this and believe what other kooks
    tell you, there is no way to choose between them" - Eric Gill (a.a.)

  11. "Peter Aitken" <[email hidden]> skrev i meddelandet
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "MEow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Yes, I'm fond of odd subject titles.

    In any case, I've now taken to adding game meat to my diet, and in my supermarket I can buy
    packages of frozen, mixed game meat (includes reindeer, moose and other such animals, native to
    Sweden).

    The package contains uniform, square, thin slices, which consist of 90% meat. The package, of
    240 g (about half a pound) is sliced into 6 or 7 slices.

    The first time I bought it, a few weeks back, I simply fried it up with an onion, a green squash
    and a red pepper. That was quite nice, but I'm looking for other ideas and/or recipes for this
    meat. Please keep in mind that my experience with cooking meat is very small, and that I'd
    prefer to also have some vegetables in the dish.
    --

    You may already know this, but "wild" meat that you buy like this is often farmed. It can be very
    tasty, but is not the same as the real thing. Also,


    I

    Quoted message said:

    would be very suspicious of any "meat" that is only 90% meat. What's the other 10%? FWIW I have
    bought some assortments of "wild" meat from www.cabelas.com and it has been very good - and also
    has been 100% meat!

    I think the product Meow is referring to is known as "viltskav" in Sweden. It's just thinly sliced
    deer, moose and reindeer meat, the other 10% is water. I seriously doubt that neither of these are
    farmed (well, reindeers are sort of... kept). Farming moose in Sweden would be quite silly.

    Squash and peppers are probably excellent with viltskav. But I usually stay pretty close to
    tradition cooking this. Think Swedish forest -- lingonberries, rowanberries, juniper berries,
    mushrooms. Onions and parsnip, perhaps. But I prefer brown rice instead of tradional mashed potatoes
    (not as Swedish though).

    Malin

  12. While frolicking around in rec.food.cooking, Malin Eriksson of Telia

    Internet said:

    I think the product Meow is referring to is known as "viltskav" in Sweden.

    Yes! That's what I'm thinking of!

    Quoted message said:

    It's just thinly sliced deer, moose and reindeer meat, the other 10% is water. I seriously doubt
    that neither of these are farmed (well, reindeers are sort of... kept). Farming moose in Sweden
    would be quite silly.

    Squash and peppers are probably excellent with viltskav. But I usually stay pretty close to
    tradition cooking this. Think Swedish forest -- lingonberries, rowanberries, juniper berries,
    mushrooms. Onions and parsnip, perhaps. But I prefer brown rice instead of tradional mashed
    potatoes (not as Swedish though).


    I've only lived in Sweden for 1,5 years (am originally from Denmark), and I'm also very
    inexperienced with cooking meat. Any recipes, even just approximate ones, would be very,
    very welcome.
    --
    Nikitta a.a. #1759 Apatriot(No, not apricot)#18 ICQ# 251532856 Unreferenced footnotes: nut.house.cxcgi
    bin/nemwiki.pl?ISFN "If you are going to take the kooks way out on this and believe what other kooks
    tell you, there is no way to choose between them" - Eric Gill (a.a.)

  13. On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 16:29:24 +0100, MEow <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    While frolicking around in rec.food.cooking, Rodney Myrvaagnes of Global Network Services - Remote

    Access Mail & News Services said:
    Quoted message said:

    The package contains uniform, square, thin slices, which consist of 90% meat. The package, of 240
    g (about half a pound) is sliced into 6 or 7 slices.

    What is the other 10%? I take it this is an industrial product? We get venison from a game farm,
    but it looks like recognizable parts of an animal, except for sausages.


    The other 10% seems to be saltwater, and yes - it is an industrial product. It's what I can get
    around here.

    Quoted message said:

    You could make a sort of Bolognese for some pasta, using oinion, tomatoes, garlic, and maybe an
    herb that would go well with the venison flavor, like perhaps sage or thyme.

    Can you suggest a good recipe? I found so many recipes when googling that I had no chance of
    deciding which would be best for the kind of meat I've described.

    Quoted message said:


    Sorry, I don't usually follow recipes. I did a "sort of Bolognese" last night to try a sausage from
    a local pig farm that just started coming to our greenmarket.

    About an hour before my wife was due home I chopped an onion and started it sauteing in very little
    olive oil. I let it go about 5 minutes and took the casing off one sausage, perhaps 120 g. I put the
    sausage in the pan and crumbled it with a wooden paddle. I threw in a couple of small bay leaves.

    After it had started to render I turned up the heat to brown the meat. When it had browned I threw
    in the remaining Italian canned tomatoes from a can I had opened a couple of days before.

    I broke up the tomatoes with the paddle and turned the heat low to simmer for a while. I gave it two
    dashes of hot sauce, not enough to make it burn but just to add a little depth. I also put in sprigs
    of rosemary and thyme.

    I heated salted water so I could finish the pasta soon after my wife would arrive. About 6 minutes
    before the end I put in 3 cloves of minced garlic. In Sweden you might not want that much. :-)

    When it was nearly done I retrieved the thyme, rosemary, and bay leaves. put the pasta into the pan
    with the sauce, stirred it around coat it and served on warm plates.

    This is not very scientific. For instance, I thought the container of tomatoes was enough so I
    didn't open another can. Thyme and rosemary was there. The sausage was a whole sausage at random
    from a package of four that weren't all the same size.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Since it is already in thin slices, you might consider a layered casserole with layers of potato,
    leeks, and whatever other vegetable is handy, between the meat slices.. Maybe some grated cheese
    on top to make a nice crust.


    Now *that* could be very interesting. Any idea of approximate baking-time and temperature?

    I did something like that with bacon a couple of weeks ago. I think I gave it an hour at 400 degrees
    F (200C). Poke with a wire skewer to see if the potatoes are done.

    Very approximate.

    Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a

    "Biologists think they are chemists, chemists think they are phycisists, physicists think they are
    gods, and God thinks He is a mathematician." Anon

  14. While frolicking around in rec.food.cooking, Rodney Myrvaagnes of Global
    Network Services - Remote Access Mail & News Services said:

    [snip part of recipe]

    Quoted message said:

    I heated salted water so I could finish the pasta soon after my wife would arrive. About 6 minutes
    before the end I put in 3 cloves of minced garlic. In Sweden you might not want that much. :-)


    I like garlic a lot, and I normally end up multiplying the amount of garlic called for in a recipe
    after having tried it once with the amount listed :0)

    Quoted message said:

    When it was nearly done I retrieved the thyme, rosemary, and bay leaves. put the pasta into the pan
    with the sauce, stirred it around coat it and served on warm plates.

    This is not very scientific. For instance, I thought the container of tomatoes was enough so I
    didn't open another can. Thyme and rosemary was there. The sausage was a whole sausage at random
    from a package of four that weren't all the same size.


    It's very helpful to me, and gives me a good idea of how to make it.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Since it is already in thin slices, you might consider a layered casserole with layers of potato,
    leeks, and whatever other vegetable is handy, between the meat slices.. Maybe some grated cheese
    on top to make a nice crust.


    Now *that* could be very interesting. Any idea of approximate baking-time and temperature?

    I did something like that with bacon a couple of weeks ago. I think I gave it an hour at 400
    degrees F (200C). Poke with a wire skewer to see if the potatoes are done.

    Very approximate.


    Ah. Good. I think that green squash wouldn't be such a good idea then, as I imagine it would get over-
    cooked in such a dish. Leeks and potatoes sound fine. Maybe slices of paprika too.

    Thanks for your ideas. I'll use half of the package in bolognese and the other in such a casserole.
    --
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