beginner inquiry

"Al Kubeluis" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:3e5e7e4e$0$2364 @dingus.crosslink.net:

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Guter Tag, I am new to recumbents and have 4 questions:
1. Why are some of you riding old WWII German V2's?
2. Do you need disk brakes or are calipers sufficient?
3. Is there a lot of tiller effect?
4. Is V2 unstable at slow speeds, say under mach 1? Dankt, Wernher

1. Everyone knows that German build quality is the best. The V2's are very fast, where's
the mystery?
2. I find that impact with the earth does a RIGHT NOW job of braking.
3. Not if you convert it to USS.
4.Steering inputs are negligable, but I find nothing short of a SAM missle will deviate it's course.

Jackal said:

"Al Kubeluis" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:3e5e7e4e$0$2364 @dingus.crosslink.net:

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Guter Tag, I am new to recumbents and have 4 questions:
1. Why are some of you riding old WWII German V2's?
2. Do you need disk brakes or are calipers sufficient?
3. Is there a lot of tiller effect?
4. Is V2 unstable at slow speeds, say under mach 1? Dankt, Wernher

1. Everyone knows that German build quality is the best. The V2's are very fast, where's the
mystery?
2. I find that impact with the earth does a RIGHT NOW job of braking.
3. Not if you convert it to USS.
4.Steering inputs are negligable, but I find nothing short of a SAM missle will deviate it's
course.

Thanks for the helpful answers, Jackal. The V2 is fast, but I think most Brits would rather see
the new HPV version coming at them, rather than its WWII almost-namesake. Here are some more
helpful answers.
1. The name, V2 is hard to type for an text-only newsgroup. Its real name is "Vee Squared." It is a
fitting name for the LWB counterpart to my V-Rex, which is, so I'm told, short for "velocitas
rex," Latin for "speed king."
2. Discs or calipers: most of us still use calipers. For the most part, disc brakes are found only
in lowracers. But they are slowly gaining acceptance for road machines, and they are starting to
appear on other bikes. I predict that in ten years they will be quite common. Compared to discs,
using calipers is like dragging your feet to stop.
3. Tiller effect on a stock V2 (I mean Vee Squared) is noticeable. That isn't necessarily bad. I
think tiller makes a bike more stable at high speeds. But it also makes low-speed handling a
little trickier.
4. Recumbents in general are harder to balance than uprights at very low speeds, perhaps 3kph or
less. Bikes with more tiller have more of a problem at these low speeds, because the hands must
make a larger movement to correct the steering. Obviously the solution is to never go that slow!
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John Foltz <[email hidden]> wrote in :"]news:[email hidden]:

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3. Tiller effect on a stock V2 (I mean Vee Squared) is noticeable. That isn't necessarily bad. I
think tiller makes a bike more stable at high speeds.

!?!?

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But it also makes low-speed handling a little trickier. 4. Recumbents in general are harder to
balance than uprights at very low speeds, perhaps 3kph or less. Bikes with more tiller have more
of a problem at these low speeds, because the hands must make a larger movement to correct the
steering.

I have no trouble keeping my trike balanced going slow or even stopped, and there is no tiller
effect.( :

rorschandt

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1. The name, V2 is hard to type for an text-only newsgroup. Its real name is "Vee Squared." It is
a fitting name for the LWB counterpart to my V-Rex, which is, so I'm told, short for "velocitas
rex," Latin for "speed king."

Works for me V²... What's do hard about that? <shift>v <alt>0178

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- Bellaire, TX USA -

My thought was V^2.

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In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

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1. The name, V2 is hard to type for an text-only newsgroup. Its real name is "Vee Squared." It
is a fitting name for the LWB counterpart to my V-Rex, which is, so I'm told, short for
"velocitas rex," Latin for "speed king."

Works for me V²... What's do hard about that? <shift>v <alt>0178

--
Cletus D. Lee Bacchetta Giro Lightning Voyager clee.orgclee.orgOpen ↗
- Bellaire, TX USA -

Cletus D. Lee said:

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1. The name, V2 is hard to type for an text-only newsgroup. Its real name is "Vee Squared." It is
a fitting name for the LWB counterpart to my V-Rex, which is, so I'm told, short for
"velocitas rex," Latin for "speed king."

Works for me V?... What's do hard about that? <shift>v <alt>0178

It shows up as "V?" on my system (Japanese version of Windows, using Agent newsreader).

Ken Kobayashi [email hidden] solarwww.mtk.nao.ac.jppersonalOpen ↗

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Works for me V²... What's do hard about that? <shift>v <alt>0178

kinda tough on this laptop on the reading rack on the V2 on the Cycl-Ops doing 85 rpm doesn't work
for me sorry

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Jackal said:

"Al Kubeluis" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:3e5e7e4e$0$2364 @dingus.crosslink.net:

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Guter Tag, I am new to recumbents and have 4 questions:
1. Why are some of you riding old WWII German V2's?
2. Do you need disk brakes or are calipers sufficient?
3. Is there a lot of tiller effect?
4. Is V2 unstable at slow speeds, say under mach 1? Dankt, Wernher

1. Everyone knows that German build quality is the best. The V2's are very fast, where's the
mystery?
2. I find that impact with the earth does a RIGHT NOW job of braking.
3. Not if you convert it to USS.
4.Steering inputs are negligable, but I find nothing short of a SAM missle will deviate it's
course.

Thanks for the helpful answers, Jackal. The V2 is fast, but I think most Brits would rather see
the new HPV version coming at them, rather than its WWII almost-namesake. Here are some more
helpful answers.
1. The name, V2 is hard to type for an text-only newsgroup. Its real name is "Vee Squared." It is
a fitting name for the LWB counterpart to my V-Rex, which is, so I'm told, short for "velocitas
rex," Latin for "speed king."
2. Discs or calipers: most of us still use calipers. For the most part, disc brakes are found only
in lowracers. But they are slowly gaining acceptance for road machines, and they are starting
to appear on other bikes. I predict that in ten years they will be quite common. Compared to
discs, using calipers is like dragging your feet to stop.
3. Tiller effect on a stock V2 (I mean Vee Squared) is noticeable. That isn't necessarily bad. I
think tiller makes a bike more stable at high speeds. But it also makes low-speed handling a
little trickier. 4. Recumbents in general are harder to balance than uprights at very low
speeds, perhaps 3kph or less. Bikes with more tiller have more of a problem at these low
speeds, because the hands must make a larger movement to correct the steering. Obviously the
solution is to never go that slow!

Well smart guy, I think the FIRST hint that he was KIDDING and actually talking ABOUT THE II V2
would be the "unstable under Mach 1" comment. Get a clue.

And a sense of humor.