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In a slightly horrible way this should demonstrate to you that drug use is NOT universal in the pro
peloton Brian.

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Perhaps rider health profiles should be extended to all rider, not just

the

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French based teams. Or just let them dope with peoper provisions. It's

all

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probably just malcontents and no-hopers.

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French paper Le Monde has printed extracts of a letter written by Armand Mégret, the doctor of
the French Cycling Federation (FFC), and sent to FFC president Jean Pitallier and Professional
Cycling League president (LCP) Thierry Cazeneuve in which Mégret warns of an apparent increase in
EPO use among professional and amateur riders in France. [snip]

Mégret bases his concerns on medical tests undertaken at three different points of last season on
a group of 700 French or foreign riders based in French teams. In particular, Mégret highlights
the increase during the season in the number of riders whose tests showed the presence of
reticulocytes (immature red blood cells). Among the pros, Mégret writes, "the numbers pass from
1.8% when the first test was done in 2003 to 29.2% when the third was done." That third test was
done on June 28, just before the French road championships and a week before the start of the Tour
de France.

"It is clear that there was some external stimulation of the production of red blood cells among
29.2% of the 154 riders tested," Mégret says,

adding:

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"The hypothesis that stimulation has been via EPO must be considered." Mégret also states that the
abnormal level of ferritin, a protein that stores iron in the body, in 30% of riders tested
indicates use of EPO. Chillingly, he explains that an excess of iron can lead to liver problems,
including cancer.

Mégret also indicates in his letter that 6-7% of riders tested show signs

of

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damage to the adrenal gland and in 90% of cases this is due to "taking corticoids in either a
licit or an illicit fashion." This type of damage, says Mégret even more chillingly, could lead to
death at any time. ............

Dearest Tom,

I've never said that drug use was "universal" in the peloton. That's your polemic nature coming
to the fore. But, 30% probable for just one drug, EPO is hardly insignificant. I 'd be
interested to know the extent of cross-over between the EPO and corticoid indicators. And which
drugs being used, such as HgH, might not be picked up by the health profiling?

"Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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In a slightly horrible way this should demonstrate to you that drug use is NOT universal in the
pro peloton Brian.

"B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Perhaps rider health profiles should be extended to all rider, not just

the

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French based teams. Or just let them dope with peoper provisions. It's

all

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probably just malcontents and no-hopers.

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French paper Le Monde has printed extracts of a letter written by

Armand

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Mégret, the doctor of the French Cycling Federation (FFC), and sent to

FFC

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president Jean Pitallier and Professional Cycling League president (LCP) Thierry Cazeneuve in
which Mégret warns of an apparent increase in EPO

use

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among professional and amateur riders in France. [snip]

Mégret bases his concerns on medical tests undertaken at three different points of last season
on a group of 700 French or foreign riders based

in

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French teams. In particular, Mégret highlights the increase during the season in the number of
riders whose tests showed the presence of reticulocytes (immature red blood cells). Among the
pros, Mégret writes, "the numbers pass from 1.8% when the first test was done in 2003 to

29.2%

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when the third was done." That third test was done on June 28, just

before

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the French road championships and a week before the start of the Tour de France.

"It is clear that there was some external stimulation of the production

of

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red blood cells among 29.2% of the 154 riders tested," Mégret says,

adding:

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"The hypothesis that stimulation has been via EPO must be considered." Mégret also states that
the abnormal level of ferritin, a protein that stores iron in the body, in 30% of riders tested
indicates use of EPO. Chillingly, he explains that an excess of iron can lead to liver

problems,

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including cancer.

Mégret also indicates in his letter that 6-7% of riders tested show

signs

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of

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damage to the adrenal gland and in 90% of cases this is due to "taking corticoids in either a
licit or an illicit fashion." This type of

damage,

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says Mégret even more chillingly, could lead to death at any time. ............

B. Lafferty said:

Dearest Tom,

I've never said that drug use was "universal" in the peloton. That's your polemic nature
coming to the fore. But, 30% probable for just one drug, EPO is hardly insignificant. I 'd be
interested to know the extent of cross-over between the EPO and corticoid indicators. And
which drugs being used, such as HgH, might not be picked up by the health profiling?

Clearly it's a big number. But it's at the low end of what one'd believe by the rumors. If you
profiled athletes in US Football leagues for androgen use, I suggest the number would be much
higher. For US sports, though, drugs really aren't a big issue, even if G. "43" W. B. is on the
problem even as we speak.

Dan

Dan Connelly said:

if G. "43" W. B. is on the problem even as we speak.

What's 43?

Jay Hill said:

Dan Connelly said:

if G. "43" W. B. is on the problem even as we speak.

What's 43?

As opposed to G. "1" W., etc.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Jay Hill said:

Dan Connelly said:

if G. "43" W. B. is on the problem even as we speak.

What's 43?

Richard Petty's number, but that's a different subject. GW Bush = 43 (43rd president) vs. GHW
Bush (aka Bush 41).

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Howard Kveck said:

Jay Hill said:

What's 43?

Richard Petty's number

It is however not a "curious or interesting" number.

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Howard Kveck said:

Jay Hill said:

What's 43?

Richard Petty's number

It is however not a "curious or interesting" number.

Dumbass, I disagree.

It's a prime number.

Amit said:

Ewoud Dronkert said:

It is however not a "curious or interesting" number.

Dumbass, I disagree.

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