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  1. ---------------------------------
    | The Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD FAQ |
    | Version 2.0, February, 2004 |
    ---------------------------------

    Introduction
    ------------
    New people arriving in sci.med.cardiology (s.m.c.) are often puzzled and troubled by the vitriol
    directed at Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD (Dr. Chung) and want to better understand the reasons for
    the hatred that some folks have for Dr. Chung. This FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) does provide
    some truthful answers (there is a fake FAQ put out by detractors that is useful only for comparison
    purposes) . All answers given herein can be independently verified either via Google or by visiting
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com.

    The FAQ is arranged in typical FAQ form, i.e. a series of questions followed by simple answers. For
    those who don't wish to read the whole FAQ, the following summary is provided.

    Summary
    -------
    Dr. Chung is a well-respected licensed cardiologist, who is board-certified in internal medicine and
    cardiology (cardiovascular medicine). In this capacity, he responds truthfully to medical
    questions on s.m.c. He does this out of sincere altruism when he has spare time outside his
    private cardiology practice, where he sees patients as a cardiologist. If that was all he were,
    there would probably be no controversy.

    The controversy arises from Dr. Chung being a genuine Christian, in particular:

    o He continues to publically profess that Christ is his Lord and Savior.

    o He freely helps people to lose weight in an altruistic Christian fashion
    (heartmdphd.comwtloss.asp).

    o When attacked on the above issues, he turns the other cheek in a Christian manner.

    o When challenged about his faith in Christ, he witnesses steadfastly without hatred.

    o When insulted for his faith in Christ, he openly calls it a blessing.

    o He remains truthful, as a servant of Christ, despite being libeled and defamed
    (heartmdphd.comlibel.asp)..

    o Other Christians have affirmed Dr. Chung's strong faith in Christ.

    The above lists only the highlights of Dr. Chung's Christian behavior on
    D.r.a.. If anything, it understates it. Everything can be verified in the Google archives. He
    witnesses to all at heartmdphd.comhealer.asp.

    People arrive in this group looking for help. Dr. Chung has graciously provided this over several
    years. Dr. Chung consistently demonstrates the breadth of his knowledge and experience. This is
    archived many times over in Google.

    List of Questions Answered
    --------------------------
    1. Who is Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD?
    2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
    3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the Charter?
    4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with that?
    5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his signature.
    6. But I'm a Christian Too!
    7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
    8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free medical information out of the goodness
    of his heart?
    9. How does a practicing physician find so much time to spend on Usenet?

    10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away?
    11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with those who challenge
    Ds. Chung?
    12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks?
    13. I'm sick of seeing all this!
    14. What is the Two Pound Diet?
    15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"?
    16. Who is Mu?
    17. What is Mu's role?

    18. Who is Dr. Andrew B Chung, MD/PhD?
    --------------------------------------
    Dt. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD is a licensed doubly board-certified cardiologist practicing
    cardiovascular medicine in Atlanta, Georgia, USA. His signature contains a link to
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com which is consistent with his posts and qualifications.

    2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
    ----------------------------------
    The purpose of this newsgroup is to establish electronic media for communication between health care
    providers, scientists and other individuals with interest in the cardiovascular field. Such
    communications will provide quick and efficacious means to exchange information and knowledge, and
    offer problems to solutions.

    The sci.med.cardiology newsgroup will welcome participants who are health care providers, trainees,
    researchers, students or recipients with interest in the field of cardiovascular problems."

    (ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/sci/sci.med.cardiology)

    3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the charter?
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Possibly (heartmdphd.comhealer.asp).

    4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with that?
    --------------------------------------------------------------
    Some people are fiercely anti-christian.

    5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his signature, isn't it?
    -------------------------------------------------------
    Yes it is. But it offends those who are anti-christian.

    6. But I'm a Christian too! Should I worry?
    ----------------------------
    No. You have Christ's promise of eternal life and the boundless riches of God's kingdom.

    7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
    --------------------------------------------------
    Anti-christians are unable to do that.

    8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free medical information out of the goodness
    of his heart?
    ----------------------------------------------------------
    God is wonderful.

    9. How does a practicing physician find so much time to spend on Usenet?

    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    God makes time for those whom He blesses.

    10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away?
    --------------------------------------------------
    Don't concern yourself about the free will of others.

    11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with those who challenge
    Du. Chung?
    --------------------------------------------------------------
    God uses anti-christians for His purposes. These posts are according to His will.

    12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks?
    ----------------------------------------------
    This is how anti-christian folks are identified so they can be culled from His flock.

    13. I'm sick of seeing all this!
    --------------------------------
    Not really a question unless you ask yourself "why?"

    14. What is the Two Pound Diet (TPD) approach?
    -------------------------------
    See: heartmdphd.comwtloss.asp

    15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"?
    ---------------------------------------------------
    Yes. It cures metabolic syndrome (MetS) which predicts cardiovascular morbidity and mortality.

    16. Who is Mu?
    --------------
    A Christian.

    17. What is Mu's role?
    ----------------------
    To serve God's will and purpose.

    Comments and/or corrections to this FAQ will be taken under advisement.

  2. "A. B. Chung FAQ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    ---------------------------------
    | The Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD FAQ |
    | Version 2.0, February, 2004 |
    ---------------------------------

    Introduction
    ------------
    New people arriving in sci.med.cardiology (s.m.c.) are often puzzled and troubled by the vitriol
    directed at Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD (Dr. Chung) and want to better understand the reasons for
    the hatred that some folks have for Dr. Chung. This FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) does provide
    some truthful answers (there is a fake FAQ put out by detractors that is useful only for
    comparison purposes) . All answers given herein can be independently verified either via Google or
    by visiting heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com.

    The FAQ is arranged in typical FAQ form, i.e. a series of questions followed by simple answers.
    For those who don't wish to read the whole FAQ, the following summary is provided.

    Summary
    -------
    Dr. Chung is a well-respected licensed cardiologist, who is board-certified in internal medicine
    and cardiology (cardiovascular medicine). In this capacity, he responds truthfully to medical
    questions on s.m.c. He does this out of sincere altruism when he has spare time outside his
    private cardiology practice, where he sees patients as a cardiologist. If that was all he
    were, there would probably be no controversy.

    The controversy arises from Dr. Chung being a genuine Christian, in particular:

    o He continues to publically profess that Christ is his Lord and Savior.

    o He freely helps people to lose weight in an altruistic Christian fashion
    (heartmdphd.comwtloss.asp).

    o When attacked on the above issues, he turns the other cheek in a Christian manner.

    o When challenged about his faith in Christ, he witnesses steadfastly without hatred.

    o When insulted for his faith in Christ, he openly calls it a blessing.

    o He remains truthful, as a servant of Christ, despite being libeled and defamed
    (heartmdphd.comlibel.asp)..

    o Other Christians have affirmed Dr. Chung's strong faith in Christ.

    The above lists only the highlights of Dr. Chung's Christian behavior on
    s.m.c.. If anything, it understates it. Everything can be verified in the Google archives. He
    witnesses to all at heartmdphd.comhealer.asp.

    People arrive in this group looking for help. Dr. Chung has graciously provided this over several
    years. Dr. Chung consistently demonstrates the breadth of his knowledge and experience. This is
    archived many times over in Google.

    List of Questions Answered
    --------------------------
    1. Who is Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD?
    2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
    3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the Charter?
    4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with that?
    5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his signature.
    6. But I'm a Christian Too!
    7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
    8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free medical information out of the goodness
    of his heart?
    9. How does a practicing physician find so much time to spend on Usenet?

    10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away?
    11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with those who challenge
    Dr. Chung?
    12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks?
    13. I'm sick of seeing all this!
    14. What is the Two Pound Diet?
    15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"?
    16. Who is Mu?
    17. What is Mu's role?

    1. Who is Dr. Andrew B Chung, MD/PhD?
    --------------------------------------
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD is a licensed doubly board-certified cardiologist practicing
    cardiovascular medicine in Atlanta, Georgia, USA. His signature contains a link to
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com which is consistent with his posts and qualifications.

    2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
    ----------------------------------
    The purpose of this newsgroup is to establish electronic media for communication between health
    care providers, scientists and other individuals with interest in the cardiovascular field. Such
    communications will provide quick and efficacious means to exchange information and knowledge, and
    offer problems to solutions.

    The sci.med.cardiology newsgroup will welcome participants who are health care providers,
    trainees, researchers, students or recipients with interest in the field of cardiovascular
    problems."

    (ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/sci/sci.med.cardiology)

    3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the charter?
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Possibly (heartmdphd.comhealer.asp).

    4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with that?
    --------------------------------------------------------------
    Some people are fiercely anti-christian.

    5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his signature, isn't it?
    -------------------------------------------------------
    Yes it is. But it offends those who are anti-christian.

    6. But I'm a Christian too! Should I worry?
    ----------------------------
    No. You have Christ's promise of eternal life and the boundless riches of God's kingdom.

    7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
    --------------------------------------------------
    Anti-christians are unable to do that.

    8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free medical information out of the goodness
    of his heart?
    ----------------------------------------------------------
    God is wonderful.

    9. How does a practicing physician find so much time to spend on Usenet?

    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    God makes time for those whom He blesses.

    10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away?
    --------------------------------------------------
    Don't concern yourself about the free will of others.

    11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with those who challenge
    Dr. Chung?
    --------------------------------------------------------------
    God uses anti-christians for His purposes. These posts are according to His will.

    12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks?
    ----------------------------------------------
    This is how anti-christian folks are identified so they can be culled from His flock.

    13. I'm sick of seeing all this!
    --------------------------------
    Not really a question unless you ask yourself "why?"

    14. What is the Two Pound Diet (TPD) approach?
    -------------------------------
    See: heartmdphd.comwtloss.asp

    15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"?
    ---------------------------------------------------
    Yes. It cures metabolic syndrome (MetS) which predicts cardiovascular morbidity and mortality.

    16. Who is Mu?
    --------------
    A Christian.

    17. What is Mu's role?
    ----------------------
    To serve God's will and purpose.

    Comments and/or corrections to this FAQ will be taken under advisement.

    Praises to God Almighty :-)

    Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

    --
    Who is the humblest person in the universe?

    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

  3. On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 1:47:17 -0500, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
    (in message <[email hidden]>😉:

    First Chung said:

    "A. B. Chung FAQ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    ---------------------------------

    Quoted message said:

    The Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD FAQ | Version 2.0, February, 2004 |


    ---------------------------------

    <snip>

    Then he responds to himself with:

    Quoted message said:

    Praises to God Almighty :-)

    ROTFLMAO!

    What's the matter Chung? Can't you get one of your socks like Pizza Girl or Cappy to praise it for
    you? Where's Mu when you need him? Could it be that even Mu is ashamed to associate himself which
    such an amateurish performance?... Nah. He's probably just off on one of his "Secret Missions".

    Praises to God Almighty, indeed. If I were you, I'd be hoping there were no such person :-) Hope you
    have a lightning rod installed in that secret office of yours :-) Or should I call it the "bunk"-er?

    Here's an idea: why don't you write some fake, softball requests for medical advice that you can
    "altruistically" respond to? Then you can praise yourself for that too. Humbly, of course.

    See, Chung, here's what you don't get: the only thing that could possibly distinguish you from "Joe
    Blow" on Usenet is professionalism... without that, you're just another kook. Every time you make up
    one of these fake posts or go off on one of your rants, or modify what someone else has said in a
    post, you undermine that.

    I have given you the secret to respectability as an "altruistic" gesture... but I am confident that
    you will not be able to capitalize on it because I am confident that like a lemming you are driven
    to jump off cliffs :-)

    Praises to God Almighty :-)

    --
    Steve

    Weeding the Lord's Vineyards Since 2003

  4. Steve <[email hidden]> wrote in news:0001HW.BC4B89E9001D588208F15DE0
    @library.airnews.net:

    Quoted message said:

    On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 1:47:17 -0500, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote (in message
    <[email hidden]>😉:

    First Chung said:

    "A. B. Chung FAQ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    ---------------------------------
    > The Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD FAQ | Version 2.0, February, 2004 |
    ---------------------------------

    <snip>

    Then he responds to himself with:

    Quoted message said:

    Praises to God Almighty :-)

    ROTFLMAO!

    What's the matter Chung? Can't you get one of your socks like Pizza Girl or Cappy to praise it for
    you? Where's Mu when you need him? Could it be that even Mu is ashamed to associate himself which
    such an amateurish performance?... Nah. He's probably just off on one of his "Secret Missions".

    Praises to God Almighty, indeed. If I were you, I'd be hoping there were no such person :-) Hope
    you have a lightning rod installed in that secret office of yours :-) Or should I call it the
    "bunk"-er?

    Here's an idea: why don't you write some fake, softball requests for medical advice that you can
    "altruistically" respond to? Then you can praise yourself for that too. Humbly, of course.

    See, Chung, here's what you don't get: the only thing that could possibly distinguish you from
    "Joe Blow" on Usenet is professionalism... without that, you're just another kook. Every time you
    make up one of these fake posts or go off on one of your rants, or modify what someone else has
    said in a post, you undermine that.

    I have given you the secret to respectability as an "altruistic" gesture... but I am confident
    that you will not be able to capitalize on it because I am confident that like a lemming you are
    driven to jump off cliffs :-)

    Praises to God Almighty :-)

    Correct.

  5. Sun, 08 Feb 2004 14:56:20 GMT in article <[email hidden]> Nigel

    Quoted message said:

    Steve <[email hidden]> wrote in news:0001HW.BC4B89E9001D588208F15DE0 @library.airnews.net:

    Quoted message said:

    On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 1:47:17 -0500, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote (in message
    <[email hidden]>😉:

    First Chung said:

    "A. B. Chung FAQ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
    > ---------------------------------
    >> The Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD FAQ | Version 2.0, February, 2004 |
    > ---------------------------------

    <snip>

    Then he responds to himself with:

    Quoted message said:

    Praises to God Almighty :-)

    ROTFLMAO!

    What's the matter Chung? Can't you get one of your socks like Pizza Girl or Cappy to praise it
    for you? Where's Mu when you need him? Could it be that even Mu is ashamed to associate himself
    which such an amateurish performance?... Nah. He's probably just off on one of his "Secret
    Missions".

    Praises to God Almighty, indeed. If I were you, I'd be hoping there were no such person :-) Hope
    you have a lightning rod installed in that secret office of yours :-) Or should I call it the
    "bunk"-er?

    Here's an idea: why don't you write some fake, softball requests for medical advice that you can
    "altruistically" respond to? Then you can praise yourself for that too. Humbly, of course.

    See, Chung, here's what you don't get: the only thing that could possibly distinguish you from
    "Joe Blow" on Usenet is professionalism... without that, you're just another kook. Every time you
    make up one of these fake posts or go off on one of your rants, or modify what someone else has
    said in a post, you undermine that.

    I have given you the secret to respectability as an "altruistic" gesture... but I am confident
    that you will not be able to capitalize on it because I am confident that like a lemming you are
    driven to jump off cliffs :-)

    Praises to God Almighty :-)

    Correct.


    I agree.

    --
    Matti Narkia

  6. Quoted message said:

    ROTFLMAO!

    What's the matter Chung? Can't you get one of your socks like Pizza Girl or Cappy to praise it for
    you? Where's Mu when you need him? Could it be that even Mu is ashamed to associate himself which
    such an amateurish performance?... Nah. He's probably just off on one of his "Secret Missions".

    What's a socks?

  7. Leave me out of your foolhardy trolling please. I have no idea what you are on about and I do not
    desire to.

    Thank you.

    "Steve" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 1:47:17 -0500, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote (in message
    <[email hidden]>😉:

    First Chung said:

    "A. B. Chung FAQ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    ---------------------------------
    > The Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD FAQ | Version 2.0, February, 2004 |
    ---------------------------------

    <snip>

    Then he responds to himself with:

    Quoted message said:

    Praises to God Almighty :-)

    ROTFLMAO!

    What's the matter Chung? Can't you get one of your socks like Pizza Girl or Cappy to praise it for
    you? Where's Mu when you need him? Could it be that even Mu is ashamed to associate himself which
    such an amateurish performance?... Nah. He's probably just off on one of his "Secret Missions".

    Praises to God Almighty, indeed. If I were you, I'd be hoping there were no such person :-) Hope
    you have a lightning rod installed in that secret office of yours :-) Or should I call it the
    "bunk"-er?

    Here's an idea: why don't you write some fake, softball requests for medical advice that you can
    "altruistically" respond to? Then you can praise yourself for that too. Humbly, of course.

    See, Chung, here's what you don't get: the only thing that could possibly distinguish you from
    "Joe Blow" on Usenet is professionalism... without that, you're just another kook. Every time you
    make up one of these fake posts or go off on one of your rants, or modify what someone else has
    said in a post, you undermine that.

    I have given you the secret to respectability as an "altruistic" gesture... but I am confident
    that you will not be able to capitalize on it because I am confident that like a lemming you are
    driven to jump off cliffs :-)

    Praises to God Almighty :-)

    --
    Steve

    Weeding the Lord's Vineyards Since 2003

  8. Caploc said:
    Quoted message said:

    ROTFLMAO!

    What's the matter Chung? Can't you get one of your socks like Pizza Girl or Cappy to praise it for
    you? Where's Mu when you need him? Could it be that even Mu is ashamed to associate himself which
    such an amateurish performance?... Nah. He's probably just off on one of his "Secret Missions".

    What's a socks?

    The sentence you appropriated the word "socks" from says it's an obvious plural. If you speak
    English. Even if you don't, it's still plural. You go to school with Chung?

    Socks is short for sockpuppets. They're generally seen as false identities used to promote some
    agenda or further some lunacy. Like Chung's. With Pizza Girl and you. The two of you were born in
    February, 2004 on usenet. With wonderfully anonymous addresses. What an astonishing coincidence,
    don't you think?

    Bob

  9. "Pizza Girl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Leave me out of your foolhardy trolling please. I have no idea what you are on about and I do not
    desire to.

    Steve-nospam seems to think you and I are one and the same :-)

    In a word: delusion.

    Poor guy.

    Satan has that effect on people.

    Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

    --
    Who is the humblest person in the universe?

    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

    What is this all about?

    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

  10. "Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Caploc said:
    Quoted message said:

    ROTFLMAO!

    What's the matter Chung? Can't you get one of your socks like Pizza Girl or Cappy to praise it
    for you? Where's Mu when you need him? Could it be that even Mu is ashamed to associate himself
    which such an amateurish performance?... Nah. He's probably just off on one of his "Secret
    Missions".

    What's a socks?

    The sentence you appropriated the word "socks" from says it's an obvious plural. If you speak
    English. Even if you don't, it's still plural. You go to school with Chung?

    Quoted message said:

    Socks is short for sockpuppets. They're generally seen as false identities used to promote some
    agenda or further some lunacy. Like Chung's. With Pizza Girl and you. The two of you were born in
    February, 2004 on usenet. With wonderfully anonymous addresses. What an astonishing coincidence,
    don't you think?

    Bob


    Let's clear it up once and for all I hope. I have no affiliation or alliance with Dr Chung or
    Pizza Girl what so ever, my comments are mine and mine alone and have not been influenced by
    either party. The fact that Pizza Girl and myself come to this group around the same time is
    merely coincident. As to being anonymous, for those people that do know me I am known as "Cappy"
    and my Hotmail account is valid. Cappy

  11. THIS IS NOT ME. THIS IS A FAKE POST, NOT FROM ME. I will be reporting this to abuse@teranews.

    Stuff this NG, I'm going elswhere.

    =Cappy=

  12. On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 21:25:38 -0500, [email hidden] wrote
    (in message <[email hidden]>😉:

    Quoted message said:

    THIS IS NOT ME. THIS IS A FAKE POST, NOT FROM ME. I will be reporting this to abuse@teranews.

    Stuff this NG, I'm going elswhere.

    =Cappy=

    Strange goings on in s.m.c :/

    --
    Steve

    Who is the humblest person in the universe? According to Chung, God :-) ROTFL! "I'm Humble!
    Worship Me!"

    Weeding the Lord's Vineyards Since 2003

  13. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    THIS IS NOT ME. THIS IS A FAKE POST, NOT FROM ME. I will be reporting this to abuse@teranews.

    Stuff this NG, I'm going elswhere.

    =Cappy=

    Report all you want Crappy, it's NOT from me either.

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