High-Wheel Racing

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any bumps or sudden stops usually sent you flying ass over teakettle, as

they had little to keep you from pitching forward.

Do you remember the expression "taking a header" referring to flying over the handlebars? Want to
guess where it came from 🙂

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Steve McDonald at [email hidden] wrote on 2/26/03 4:04 AM:

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I just saw a clip on TV of a high-wheel race in Tasmania. These bikes, dating back to 1880, have a
front wheel of about 50-inches, a small rear wheel and no gears. They said they could go 40 mph.
Maybe that was a NASA-type misconversion and it is really 40 kph??

Front wheel size was limited by the riders' inseam. 50" would be about a 34" inseam, if you were
using ~180 mm cranks and had yer buttocks about 2" above the wheel.

This is the root of "gear-inches" used for describing ratios on modern bikes. You can derive speeds
from gearing, based on your cadence.

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Most were direct-drive, though there some "multiplier" versions.

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When they got smart enough to put the little wheel in front, they called them "safety bicycles".

IIRC - the "safety bicycles" referred to the development of what would look similar to a modern
bicycle. Wheels of equal size with a chain or shaft drive.

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Like skateboards and then rollerblades, I'll bet at the peak of their popularity, they greatly
increased the business of orthopedists.

More likely undertakers. Rotating forward on a large wheel at race speed while holding a handlebar
is a great recipe for a snapped neck.

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I just saw a clip on TV of a high-wheel race in Tasmania. These bikes, dating back to 1880,
have a front wheel of about 50-inches, a small rear wheel and no gears.

From your description, sound like penny farthings. See
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I just saw a clip on TV of a high-wheel race in Tasmania. These bikes, dating back to 1880,
have a front wheel of about 50-inches, a small rear wheel and no gears. They said they could
go 40 mph. Maybe that was a NASA-type misconversion and it is really 40 kph?? Anyway, those
racers were really hauling. They didn't say if they were using the original solid rubber
tires or pneumatic ones. Has anyone used one of these or know of any racing of them in other
places? When I was 15, I got to ride one, that had been my Grandfather's. It had solid rubber
and took only a few minutes to learn how to mount. However, any bumps or sudden stops usually
sent you flying ass over teakettle, as they had little to keep you from pitching forward.
When they got smart enough to put the little wheel in front, they called them "safety
bicycles". Like skateboards and then rollerblades, I'll bet at the peak of their popularity,
they greatly increased the business of orthopedists.

I have a great AV by Sydney photographer Rob Walls on the racing at Evandale and I know a guy who
has raced there and builds pennyfarthings. If you want the AV, just email me. It's 2.7mB and is a
self-running p2e file. Mark Lee

Steve McDonald said:

I just saw a clip on TV of a high-wheel race in Tasmania. These bikes, dating back to 1880,
have a front wheel of about 50-inches, a small rear wheel and no gears. They said they could
go 40 mph. Maybe that was a NASA-type misconversion and it is really 40 kph??

I saw it, too, and also did not believe the 40mph claim. Even 40kph is moving on something like
that, with a 50" gear or so. There was one guy on the clip who went by with his feet off the pedals;
maybe that way you could go faster, but man that would be foolhardy.

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Anyway, those racers were really hauling. They didn't say if they were using the original solid
rubber tires or pneumatic ones.

They'd almost have to be. Where would you get a tire that big? They would also have to be tubulars,
if they were pneumatic.

Mark Twain has a great piece about trying to learn how to ride one of these.

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Jim Edgar said:

Front wheel size was limited by the riders' inseam. 50" would be about a 34" inseam, if you were
using ~180 mm cranks and had yer buttocks about 2" above the wheel.

Most of the cranks were a lot shorter than that. Closer to 100mm than 180mm -- but I am just going
on appearance; never measured one.

But your computation is still pretty close. I don't think many of them got over 60 gear-inches,
which is pretty low.

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I have a great AV by Sydney photographer Rob Walls on the >racing at Evandale and I know a guy who
has raced there and builds pennyfarthings. If you want the AV, >just email me. It's 2.7mB and is a
self-running p2e file. Mark Lee [/B]

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Glad to see my A/v is so appreciated and still doing the rounds, Mark. BY the way, I used to be a Sydney photographer...for the past ten years or so, I've based myself in Hobart.

Cheers,

Rob Walls

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I have a great AV by Sydney photographer Rob Walls on the >racing at Evandale and I know a guy
who has raced there and builds pennyfarthings. If you want the AV, >just email me. It's 2.7mB and
is a self-running p2e file. Mark Lee

Glad to see my A/v is so appreciated and still doing the rounds, Mark. BY the way, I used to be a
Sydney photographer...for the past ten years or so, I've based myself in Hobart.

Cheers,

Rob Walls

Hi Rob, by coincidence, I just watched that slideshow again last night. Fantastic! A guy from the US
asked me to email it to him last weekend! I love the similarity between the calves on the statue and
the cyclist standing nearby - also the meeting of "McMillan Boneshaker?" and electric
scooter-wheelchair. Mark Lee

Hi Mark...I don't check this forum often, but came across your note last night. Glad to see it's still circulating and that cyclists are still getting enjoyment from it.

Best regards,

Rob

Hi Rob, by coincidence, I just watched that slideshow again last night. Fantastic! A guy from the US
asked me to email it to him last weekend! I love the similarity between the calves on the statue and
the cyclist standing nearby - also the meeting of "McMillan Boneshaker?" and electric
scooter-wheelchair. Mark Lee [/B][/QUOTE]