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  1. Hello. Is the back pain of pancreatic cancer a sharp pain, a barely noticeable pain, or a pain that
    starts out barely noticeable and grows into a sharp pain?

    Is it real localized or does it seem like it moves around or is it's location kinda vague?

    Is it constant with time or does is get stronger and more painful?

    I've had a pain in my back for one month now but it's not constant - some days I don't feel
    anything, other days I do. The pain's not sharp or intense and usually not really a pain feeling -
    more a sensation in one area I never felt before though I guess I could call it a dull pain at
    times. I suspect and hope it's a muscle I'm feeling. I think it's from leaning over while working on
    the computer.

    The part that kind of concerns me is it's right in the spot where the tail of the pancreas would
    seem to be (top of the stomach) though rarely I feel a sensation more in my spine at the same
    elevation. But after a month would other symptoms start to show up (such as pain in the stomach or
    feelings of fatique or loss of appetite)?

    Thanks. Please post all replies here.

    Mike

  2. Mike said:

    Hello. Is the back pain of pancreatic cancer a sharp pain, a barely noticeable pain, or a pain
    that starts out barely noticeable and grows into a sharp pain?

    Is it real localized or does it seem like it moves around or is it's location kinda vague?

    Is it constant with time or does is get stronger and more painful?

    I've had a pain in my back for one month now but it's not constant - some days I don't feel
    anything, other days I do. The pain's not sharp or intense and usually not really a pain feeling -
    more a sensation in one area I never felt before though I guess I could call it a dull pain at
    times. I suspect and hope it's a muscle I'm feeling. I think it's from leaning over while working
    on the computer.

    The part that kind of concerns me is it's right in the spot where the tail of the pancreas would
    seem to be (top of the stomach) though rarely I feel a sensation more in my spine at the same
    elevation. But after a month would other symptoms start to show up (such as pain in the stomach or
    feelings of fatique or loss of appetite)?

    Thanks. Please post all replies here.

    Mike, I've been reading these newsgroups for years. Some cancers present with back pain, some
    don't, some have no pain at all. Some with pancreatic cancer start with back pain. Ditto for lung
    cancer or liver tumors. There's no way that anyone here could tell you what's going on with your
    organs or muscles. Only your physician could help you. Maybe a full body CT would put your mind at
    ease? Best wishes, J

  3. Mike said:

    Hello. Is the back pain of pancreatic cancer a sharp pain, a barely noticeable pain, or a pain
    that starts out barely noticeable and grows into a sharp pain?

    Is it real localized or does it seem like it moves around or is it's location kinda vague?

    Is it constant with time or does is get stronger and more painful?

    I've had a pain in my back for one month now but it's not constant - some days I don't feel
    anything, other days I do. The pain's not sharp or intense and usually not really a pain feeling -
    more a sensation in one area I never felt before though I guess I could call it a dull pain at
    times. I suspect and hope it's a muscle I'm feeling. I think it's from leaning over while working
    on the computer.

    The part that kind of concerns me is it's right in the spot where the tail of the pancreas would
    seem to be (top of the stomach) though rarely I feel a sensation more in my spine at the same
    elevation. But after a month would other symptoms start to show up (such as pain in the stomach or
    feelings of fatique or loss of appetite)?

    Listen Mike, Maybe you have GERD or an ulcer or a muscle pull or any number of problems.

    the severe weight loss usually occurs during the last months of pancreatic cancer. It could be
    computer work/posture or it could be pancreatic cancer or it could be something else. I will speak
    here of two persons who had pancreatic cancer. My friend's brother sat at his computer, month after
    month, and did not go to a doctor. He had pancreatic cancer and by the time he went to the doctor it
    was too late.

    A poster here, a few years back, kindly described his back pain, and he clearly stated that it
    started so vague that he ignored it. He's long gone now but it was caught a little earlier than my
    friend's brother.

    nci.nih.govpatient And don't let a doctor say "you
    don't have jaundice, so it can't be". Some only get jaundiced near the end, some perhaps never get
    jaundice if the ducts don't get blocked to the liver.

    As I said, we don't know what the cause of your pain is, but you are better being safe than sorry.

    I don't want you to delay if something's wrong. I don't want to have you go through tests for
    nothing either. A doctor can do a full medical history, examine you, ask the right questions and
    determine some basic tests to rule some things out or in, as the case may be. A doctor could
    probably run a chest x-ray and at least a CT-scan and maybe an upper GI barium to see if you have
    ulcers. (and maybe some bloodwork for the liver and pancreas). Those would rule out something in
    your lung, sometimes rib/bone problems and can sometimes see organ inflammation.

    So why wait and wonder?

    J - not a doctor

  4. "J" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

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    Mike said:

    Hello. Is the back pain of pancreatic cancer a sharp pain, a barely noticeable pain, or a pain
    that starts out barely noticeable and grows


    into

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    a sharp pain?

    Is it real localized or does it seem like it moves around or is it's location kinda vague?

    Is it constant with time or does is get stronger and more painful?

    I've had a pain in my back for one month now but it's not constant -


    some

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    days I don't feel anything, other days I do. The pain's not sharp or intense and usually not
    really a pain feeling - more a sensation in one


    area

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    I never felt before though I guess I could call it a dull pain at times.


    I

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    suspect and hope it's a muscle I'm feeling. I think it's from leaning


    over

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    while working on the computer.

    The part that kind of concerns me is it's right in the spot where the


    tail

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    of the pancreas would seem to be (top of the stomach) though rarely I


    feel a

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    sensation more in my spine at the same elevation. But after a month


    would

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    other symptoms start to show up (such as pain in the stomach or feelings


    of

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    fatique or loss of appetite)?

    Thanks. Please post all replies here.

    Mike, I've been reading these newsgroups for years. Some cancers present with back pain, some
    don't, some have no pain at all. Some with pancreatic cancer start with back pain. Ditto for lung
    cancer or


    liver

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    tumors. There's no way that anyone here could tell you what's going on with your


    organs

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    or muscles. Only your physician could help you. Maybe a full body CT would put your


    mind at

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    ease? Best wishes, J

    I'm not too worried about it at this point. If it gets worse and persists for months, then I'll see
    a doc to get some kind of scan. Thanks for the info.

    Mike

  5. "Mike" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hello. Is the back pain of pancreatic cancer a sharp pain, a barely noticeable pain, or a pain
    that starts out barely noticeable and grows


    into

    Quoted message said:

    a sharp pain?

    Is it real localized or does it seem like it moves around or is it's location kinda vague?

    Is it constant with time or does is get stronger and more painful?

    I've had a pain in my back for one month now but it's not constant - some days I don't feel
    anything, other days I do. The pain's not sharp or intense and usually not really a pain feeling -
    more a sensation in one


    area

    Quoted message said:

    I never felt before though I guess I could call it a dull pain at times.


    I

    Quoted message said:

    suspect and hope it's a muscle I'm feeling. I think it's from leaning


    over

    Quoted message said:

    while working on the computer.

    The part that kind of concerns me is it's right in the spot where the tail of the pancreas would
    seem to be (top of the stomach) though rarely I feel


    a

    Quoted message said:

    sensation more in my spine at the same elevation. But after a month would other symptoms start to
    show up (such as pain in the stomach or feelings


    of

    Quoted message said:

    fatique or loss of appetite)?

    Thanks. Please post all replies here.

    Mike

    All the things you speak of are fairly classic of pancreatic and some other cancers. The fatigue and
    loss of appetite is common to all cancers. MIKE

  6. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: pancreatic cancer back pain
    From: J [email hidden]
    Date: 2/9/2004

    Quoted message said:

    A doctor can do a full medical history, examine you, ask the right questions and determine some
    basic tests to rule some things out or in, as the case may be. A doctor could probably run a chest
    x-ray and at least a CT-scan and maybe an upper GI barium to see if you have ulcers. (and maybe
    some bloodwork for the liver and pancreas). Those would rule out something in your lung, sometimes
    rib/bone problems and can sometimes see organ inflammation.

    So why wait and wonder?

    J - not a doctor

    Would a CT scan or bloodwork show that it is cancer? We have a lady at work who has had a bunch of
    tests including, CT scan, IVP, ultrasound, she still is having problems with her side and nothing
    has been found. Kathy J

  7. "Mike Radcliffe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Mike" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hello. Is the back pain of pancreatic cancer a sharp pain, a barely noticeable pain, or a pain
    that starts out barely noticeable and grows


    into

    Quoted message said:

    a sharp pain?

    Is it real localized or does it seem like it moves around or is it's location kinda vague?

    Is it constant with time or does is get stronger and more painful?

    I've had a pain in my back for one month now but it's not constant -


    some

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    days I don't feel anything, other days I do. The pain's not sharp or intense and usually not
    really a pain feeling - more a sensation in one


    area

    Quoted message said:

    I never felt before though I guess I could call it a dull pain at times.


    I

    Quoted message said:

    suspect and hope it's a muscle I'm feeling. I think it's from leaning


    over

    Quoted message said:

    while working on the computer.

    The part that kind of concerns me is it's right in the spot where the


    tail

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    of the pancreas would seem to be (top of the stomach) though rarely I


    feel

    Quoted message said:

    a

    Quoted message said:

    sensation more in my spine at the same elevation. But after a month


    would

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    other symptoms start to show up (such as pain in the stomach or feelings


    of

    Quoted message said:

    fatique or loss of appetite)?

    Thanks. Please post all replies here.

    Mike

    All the things you speak of are fairly classic of pancreatic and some


    other

    Quoted message said:

    cancers.

    Thanks for replying. I assume you are referring to my comments prior to the questions I asked. Is
    that correct? If you don't mind me asking, where does your knowledge in this area come from - for
    example are you an oncologist or have you known people with panc cancer? Thanks.

    Mike

    The fatigue and loss of appetite is common to all cancers.

    Quoted message said:

    MIKE

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    Quoted message said:


    All the things you speak of are fairly classic of pancreatic and some


    other

    Quoted message said:

    cancers.

    Thanks for replying. I assume you are referring to my comments prior to


    the

    Quoted message said:

    questions I asked. Is that correct? If you don't mind me asking, where does your knowledge in
    this area come from - for example are you an oncologist or have you known people with panc
    cancer? Thanks.

    Mike

    The fatigue and loss of appetite is common to all cancers.

    Quoted message said:

    MIKE

    I'm a palliative care nurse (15yrs) prior to that onclogy/ haematology (4yrs) MIKE

  9. "Mike Radcliffe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    All the things you speak of are fairly classic of pancreatic and some


    other

    Quoted message said:

    cancers.

    Thanks for replying. I assume you are referring to my comments prior to


    the

    Quoted message said:

    questions I asked. Is that correct? If you don't mind me asking, where does your knowledge in
    this area come from - for example are you an oncologist or have you known people with panc
    cancer? Thanks.

    Mike

    The fatigue and loss of appetite is common to all cancers.

    Quoted message said:

    MIKE

    I'm a palliative care nurse (15yrs) prior to that onclogy/ haematology (4yrs) MIKE

    Mike,

    I think that you deserve a medal for the job that you do!! Here in the UK our nurses work for
    peanuts under the NHS so it sure takes a special kind of person to work in palliative care. When
    Tony passed away two members of staff from the hospice attended his funeral, they are just such
    empathetic people.

    Alayne

  10. "Mike Radcliffe" wrote

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    I'm a palliative care nurse (15yrs) prior to that onclogy/ haematology (4yrs)

    Great. I would really appreciate it if you (or anyone else) could answer the following 4 multiple
    choice questions based on the pancreatic cancer patients you saw. Should take only a few seconds -
    just type the letter corresponding to the correct answer. Thank you!

    Q1: The back pain could generally be described as:

    R. sharp pain
    S. barely noticeable pain
    T. started out barely noticeable, eventually became more intense each month
    U. no pattern
    V. don't know

    V1: The back pain was generally:

    W. at one location
    X. was felt at different places at different times
    Y. location kind of vague
    Z. no pattern
    Z. don't know

    Z1: The back pain was generally in the:

    Z. upper back (about 6 inches above belly button)
    Z. lower back
    Z. no pattern
    Z. don't know

    Z1: The back pain was generally:

    Z. constant each month
    Z. got stronger with each month
    Z. no pattern
    Z. don't know

    Thank you - I really appreciate it!

    Mike

  11. Quoted message said:

    Great. I would really appreciate it if you (or anyone else) could answer the following 4 multiple
    choice questions based on the pancreatic cancer patients you saw. Should take only a few seconds -
    just type the letter corresponding to the correct answer. Thank you!

    Q1: The back pain could generally be described as:

    a. sharp pain
    b. barely noticeable pain
    c. started out barely noticeable, eventually became more intense each month
    d. no pattern
    e. don't know

    Q2: The back pain was generally:

    a. at one location
    b. was felt at different places at different times
    c. location kind of vague
    d. no pattern
    e. don't know

    Q3: The back pain was generally in the:

    a. upper back (about 6 inches above belly button)
    b. lower back
    c. no pattern
    d. don't know

    Q4: The back pain was generally:

    a. constant each month
    b. got stronger with each month
    c. no pattern
    d. don't know

    Thank you - I really appreciate it!

    Mike

    The pain varies with the individual and if you are looking to diagnose anything from the pain don't
    even try. The pain is often very generalised in that it tends to be central abdominal radiating
    through to the back and is similar to many conditions in this area, not least indigestion, gastric/
    duodenal ulcer, gallstones, crohns disease, colic, chronic back pain, wind, psychosomatic stress,
    etc.. The only way to diagnose is to have the relevant medical examination and tests. MIKE

  12. Alayne said:

    "Mike Radcliffe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    I'm a palliative care nurse (15yrs) prior to that onclogy/ haematology


    (4yrs)

    Quoted message said:

    MIKE


    I think that you deserve a medal for the job that you do!! Here in the UK our nurses work for
    peanuts under the NHS so it sure takes a special kind of person to work in palliative care.

    Hear ! Hear ! and for his help on this newsgroup too. J

  13. "Mike Radcliffe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Great. I would really appreciate it if you (or anyone else) could


    answer

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the following 4 multiple choice questions based on the pancreatic cancer patients you saw.
    Should take only a few seconds - just type the letter corresponding to the correct answer.
    Thank you!

    Q1: The back pain could generally be described as:

    a. sharp pain
    b. barely noticeable pain
    c. started out barely noticeable, eventually became more intense each month
    d. no pattern
    e. don't know

    Q2: The back pain was generally:

    a. at one location
    b. was felt at different places at different times
    c. location kind of vague
    d. no pattern
    e. don't know

    Q3: The back pain was generally in the:

    a. upper back (about 6 inches above belly button)
    b. lower back
    c. no pattern
    d. don't know

    Q4: The back pain was generally:

    a. constant each month
    b. got stronger with each month
    c. no pattern
    d. don't know

    Thank you - I really appreciate it!

    Mike

    The pain varies with the individual and if you are looking to diagnose anything from the pain
    don't even try. The pain is often very generalised in that it tends to be central abdominal
    radiating through to the back and is similar to many conditions


    in

    Quoted message said:

    this area, not least indigestion, gastric/ duodenal ulcer, gallstones, crohns disease, colic,
    chronic back pain, wind, psychosomatic stress,


    etc..

    Quoted message said:

    The only way to diagnose is to have the relevant medical examination


    and

    Quoted message said:

    tests. MIKE

    Thanks for the info and thanks for the under-appreciated services you and all nurses provide in the
    healthcare industry (and for the info you provide here).

    Mike

  14. Thought you might want to check www.robertsreview.com for interviews (audio, video, and transcripts)
    on PC: latest protocols, new treatment breakthroughs, and latest pain parameters/pain management
    techniques.

    I check 'em once or twice a week at robertsreview.comrobertsreview.com

    Hope this may be of some help to you.

    Jack "Mike" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "Mike Radcliffe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4VZWb.54004$Wa.3032@news-
    server.bigpond.net.au...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Great. I would really appreciate it if you (or anyone else) could


    answer

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the following 4 multiple choice questions based on the pancreatic cancer patients you saw.
    Should take only a few seconds - just type the letter corresponding to the correct answer.
    Thank you!

    Q1: The back pain could generally be described as:

    a. sharp pain
    b. barely noticeable pain
    c. started out barely noticeable, eventually became more intense each month
    d. no pattern
    e. don't know

    Q2: The back pain was generally:

    a. at one location
    b. was felt at different places at different times
    c. location kind of vague
    d. no pattern
    e. don't know

    Q3: The back pain was generally in the:

    a. upper back (about 6 inches above belly button)
    b. lower back
    c. no pattern
    d. don't know

    Q4: The back pain was generally:

    a. constant each month
    b. got stronger with each month
    c. no pattern
    d. don't know

    Thank you - I really appreciate it!

    Mike

    The pain varies with the individual and if you are looking to diagnose anything from the pain
    don't even try. The pain is often very generalised in that it tends to be central abdominal
    radiating through to the back and is similar to many conditions


    in

    Quoted message said:

    this area, not least indigestion, gastric/ duodenal ulcer, gallstones, crohns disease, colic,
    chronic back pain, wind, psychosomatic stress,


    etc..

    Quoted message said:

    The only way to diagnose is to have the relevant medical examination


    and

    Quoted message said:

    tests. MIKE

    Thanks for the info and thanks for the under-appreciated services you and all nurses provide in
    the healthcare industry (and for the info you provide here).

    Mike

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