Not addictive when taken as prescribed...

Mark ProbertFebruary 5 said:

drugabuse.govRitalin.htmlOpen ↗ When taken as prescribed, methylphenidate is a
valuable medicine. Research shows that people with ADHD do not become addicted to stimulant

medications

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when taken in the form prescribed and at treatment dosages.2

The basis for that statement is footnote 2, a paper by Nora Volkow. The conclusion of that paper is:

Conclusions: Oral methylphenidate is very effective in blocking dopamine transporters, and at the
weight-adjusted doses used therapeutically (0.3 to .6 mg/kg), it is likely to occupy more than 50%
of the dopamine transporters. The time to reach peak brain uptake for oral methylphenidate in brain
corresponds well with the reported time course to reach peak behavioral effects.
ajp.psychiatryonline.org1325Open ↗

The paper is a worthwhile study of how ritalin works, but it says nothing about addiction.

I think that it is funny that the ritalin advocates are so eager to prove that it is not addictive,
but the evidence presented is so weak.

"Roger Schlafly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Mark ProbertFebruary 5 said:

drugabuse.govRitalin.htmlOpen ↗ When taken as prescribed, methylphenidate is a
valuable medicine.

Research

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shows that people with ADHD do not become addicted to stimulant

medications

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when taken in the form prescribed and at treatment dosages.2

The basis for that statement is footnote 2, a paper by Nora Volkow. The conclusion of that
paper is:

Conclusions: Oral methylphenidate is very effective in blocking dopamine transporters, and at the
weight-adjusted doses used therapeutically (0.3

to

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.6 mg/kg), it is likely to occupy more than 50% of the dopamine transporters. The time to reach
peak brain uptake for oral methylphenidate in brain corresponds well with the reported time course
to reach peak behavioral effects. ajp.psychiatryonline.org1325Open ↗

The paper is a worthwhile study of how ritalin works, but it says nothing about addiction.

I think that it is funny that the ritalin advocates are so eager to prove that it is not
addictive, but the evidence presented is so weak.

As you have been told countless times, Dr. Volkow, now head of NIDA, is the leading researcher and
authority on the physiology of addiction.

Since the article is published on the NIDA site, I conclude that what is says is what she says, and
her knowledge of this area is vastly greatger than yours.

"Mark ProbertFebruary 5, 2004" <[email hidden]> wrote

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The paper is a worthwhile study of how ritalin works, but it says

nothing

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about addiction. I think that it is funny that the ritalin advocates are so eager to

prove

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that it is not addictive, but the evidence presented is so weak.

Dr. Volkow, now head of NIDA, is the leading researcher and authority on the physiology of
addiction. Since the article is published on the NIDA site, I conclude that what is says is
what she says, and her knowledge of this area is vastly greater than yours.

She may be a great genius, and the webmaster may be sucking up to her by citing her. Nevertheless,
her cited paper says nothing about addiction.

"Roger Schlafly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Mark ProbertFebruary 5, 2004" <[email hidden]> wrote

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The paper is a worthwhile study of how ritalin works, but it says

nothing

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about addiction. I think that it is funny that the ritalin advocates are so eager to

prove

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that it is not addictive, but the evidence presented is so weak.

Dr. Volkow, now head of NIDA, is the leading researcher and authority on the physiology of
addiction. Since the article is published on the NIDA site, I conclude that what is says is
what she says, and her knowledge of this area is vastly greater than yours.

She may be a great genius, and the webmaster may be sucking up to her by citing her. Nevertheless,
her cited paper says nothing about addiction.

Says you. You may just be incapable of interpreting it.

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Subject: Re: Not addictive when taken as prescribed...
From: "Roger Schlafly" [email hidden]
Date: 2/5/2004 2:26 PM Pacific Standard Time
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Mark ProbertFebruary 5 said:

drugabuse.govRitalin.htmlOpen ↗ When taken as prescribed, methylphenidate is a
valuable medicine. Research shows that people with ADHD do not become addicted to stimulant

medications

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when taken in the form prescribed and at treatment dosages.2

The basis for that statement is footnote 2, a paper by Nora Volkow. The conclusion of that
paper is:

Conclusions: Oral methylphenidate is very effective in blocking dopamine transporters, and at the
weight-adjusted doses used therapeutically (0.3 to .6 mg/kg), it is likely to occupy more than 50%
of the dopamine transporters. The time to reach peak brain uptake for oral methylphenidate in brain
corresponds well with the reported time course to reach peak behavioral effects.
ajp.psychiatryonline.org1325Open ↗

The paper is a worthwhile study of how ritalin works, but it says nothing about addiction.

I think that it is funny that the ritalin advocates are so eager to prove that it is not addictive,
but the evidence presented is so weak.

When taken a prescribed, is NOT happening.

We have a REAL drug abuse problem.

It starts with kids.

Abuse is rampant. Who prescribes it so freely????

Jan

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"Roger Schlafly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Mark ProbertFebruary 5, 2004" <[email hidden]>

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drugabuse.govRitalin.htmlOpen ↗ When taken as prescribed, methylphenidate is a
valuable medicine.

Research

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shows that people with ADHD do not become addicted to stimulant

medications

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when taken in the form prescribed and at treatment dosages.2

The basis for that statement is footnote 2, a paper by Nora Volkow. The conclusion of that
paper is:

Conclusions: Oral methylphenidate is very effective in blocking dopamine transporters, and at
the weight-adjusted doses used therapeutically (0.3

to

Quoted message said:

.6 mg/kg), it is likely to occupy more than 50% of the dopamine transporters. The time to reach
peak brain uptake for oral

methylphenidate

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in brain corresponds well with the reported time course to reach peak behavioral effects.
ajp.psychiatryonline.org1325Open ↗

The paper is a worthwhile study of how ritalin works, but it says

nothing

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about addiction.

I think that it is funny that the ritalin advocates are so eager to

prove

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that it is not addictive, but the evidence presented is so weak.

As you have been told countless times, Dr. Volkow, now head of NIDA, is

the

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leading researcher and authority on the physiology of addiction.

Since the article is published on the NIDA site, I conclude that what is says is what she says,
and her knowledge of this area is vastly greatger than yours.

"Roger Schlafly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Mark ProbertFebruary 5 said:

drugabuse.govRitalin.htmlOpen ↗ When taken as prescribed, methylphenidate is a
valuable medicine.

Research

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shows that people with ADHD do not become addicted to stimulant

medications

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when taken in the form prescribed and at treatment dosages.2

The basis for that statement is footnote 2, a paper by Nora Volkow. The conclusion of that
paper is:

Conclusions: Oral methylphenidate is very effective in blocking dopamine transporters, and at the
weight-adjusted doses used therapeutically (0.3

to

Quoted message said:

.6 mg/kg), it is likely to occupy more than 50% of the dopamine transporters. The time to reach
peak brain uptake for oral methylphenidate in brain corresponds well with the reported time course
to reach peak behavioral effects. ajp.psychiatryonline.org1325Open ↗

The paper is a worthwhile study of how ritalin works, but it says nothing about addiction.

I think that it is funny that the ritalin advocates are so eager to prove that it is not
addictive, but the evidence presented is so weak.

Yet you provide no evidence that methylphenidate is addictive when taken as prescribed.

Jeff

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"Roger Schlafly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Mark ProbertFebruary 5, 2004" <[email hidden]>

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drugabuse.govRitalin.htmlOpen ↗ When taken as prescribed, methylphenidate is a
valuable medicine.

Research

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shows that people with ADHD do not become addicted to stimulant

medications

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when taken in the form prescribed and at treatment dosages.2

The basis for that statement is footnote 2, a paper by Nora Volkow. The conclusion of that
paper is:

Conclusions: Oral methylphenidate is very effective in blocking dopamine transporters, and at
the weight-adjusted doses used therapeutically (0.3

to

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.6 mg/kg), it is likely to occupy more than 50% of the dopamine transporters. The time to reach
peak brain uptake for oral

methylphenidate

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in brain corresponds well with the reported time course to reach peak behavioral effects.
ajp.psychiatryonline.org1325Open ↗

The paper is a worthwhile study of how ritalin works, but it says

nothing

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about addiction.

I think that it is funny that the ritalin advocates are so eager to

prove

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that it is not addictive, but the evidence presented is so weak.

Yet you provide no evidence that methylphenidate is addictive when taken

as

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prescribed.

Roger has provided no case study or quality opinion that MPH is addictive when taken as prescribed.

Nice, but incorrect. From the Nizkor page you cite:

"This fallacy is committed when the person in question is not a legitimate authority on
the subject."

Here, the person I am appealing to IS an authority. In fact, with regard to the physiology of
addcition, she IS the authority.

Thus, I am not being fallacious.

Please read the entire page before you cite it. Jan Drew does not read everything she posts, and
looks like a fool because of it.

Thank you for a chance to clear this up.

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"Roger Schlafly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Mark ProbertFebruary 5, 2004" <[email hidden]>

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> drugabuse.govRitalin.htmlOpen ↗ When taken as prescribed, methylphenidate is a
> valuable medicine.

Research

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> shows that people with ADHD do not become addicted to stimulant
medications
> when taken in the form prescribed and at treatment dosages.2

The basis for that statement is footnote 2, a paper by Nora Volkow. The conclusion of that
paper is:

Conclusions: Oral methylphenidate is very effective in blocking

dopamine

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transporters, and at the weight-adjusted doses used therapeutically

(.3

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to

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.6 mg/kg), it is likely to occupy more than 50% of the dopamine transporters. The time to
reach peak brain uptake for oral

methylphenidate

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in brain corresponds well with the reported time course to reach peak behavioral effects.
ajp.psychiatryonline.org1325Open ↗

The paper is a worthwhile study of how ritalin works, but it says

nothing

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about addiction.

I think that it is funny that the ritalin advocates are so eager to

prove

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

that it is not addictive, but the evidence presented is so weak.

As you have been told countless times, Dr. Volkow, now head of NIDA, is

the

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leading researcher and authority on the physiology of addiction.

Since the article is published on the NIDA site, I conclude that what is says is what she says,
and her knowledge of this area is vastly greatger than yours.

"Jeff" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Roger Schlafly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Mark ProbertFebruary 5, 2004" <[email hidden]>

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drugabuse.govRitalin.htmlOpen ↗ When taken as prescribed, methylphenidate is a
valuable medicine.

Research

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shows that people with ADHD do not become addicted to stimulant

medications

Quoted message said:

when taken in the form prescribed and at treatment dosages.2

The basis for that statement is footnote 2, a paper by Nora Volkow. The conclusion of that
paper is:

Conclusions: Oral methylphenidate is very effective in blocking dopamine transporters, and at
the weight-adjusted doses used therapeutically (0.3

to

Quoted message said:

.6 mg/kg), it is likely to occupy more than 50% of the dopamine transporters. The time to reach
peak brain uptake for oral

methylphenidate

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

in brain corresponds well with the reported time course to reach peak behavioral effects.
ajp.psychiatryonline.org1325Open ↗

The paper is a worthwhile study of how ritalin works, but it says

nothing

Quoted message said:

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about addiction.

I think that it is funny that the ritalin advocates are so eager to

prove

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that it is not addictive, but the evidence presented is so weak.

Yet you provide no evidence that methylphenidate is addictive when taken

as

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prescribed.

Y'know, I think it is "funny" that those who are so anti-medication for ADHD are so eager to say
that the ability to become addicted to a medication when not following the directions are not
screaming just as loudly about other cases...i.e., are they just as loudly demanding that other
drugs that can be easily addictive when abused be taken off the shelves? An example of an *over the
counter drug* that leads to such abuse can be found at nasal-spray-addiction.comnasal-spray-addiction.comOpen ↗

I had to have a doctor help get me off of that stuff...I *never* "forgot" to take my next hit--I
felt like I could not breathe without doing so....*never* had this problem with ADHD meds....I
*often forget* to take them!

Buny