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  1. I have decided to replace the brake and shifter housings and cables on the mountain bike as they are
    in rather sad shape.What I was wondering about were those plastic sleeves that some bikes have on
    the bare cable between the guides.I actually have them on a less expensive rigid fork bike.It would
    seem like a good idea to protect the paint.Do they defeat the pupose of having the cable bare or are
    they just not cool or unnecessary. Would using them be the same as putting reflectors on? Is there a
    valid reason why some bikes have them and others don,t? The bike does not have them and I didn't
    plan on using them.I am just curious about this.

    Thanks for any input. Fredzep

  2. "Fredzep" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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    I have decided to replace the brake and shifter housings and cables on the mountain bike as they
    are in rather sad shape.What I was wondering about were those plastic sleeves that some bikes have
    on the bare cable between the guides.I actually have them on a less expensive rigid fork bike.It
    would seem like a good idea to protect the paint.Do they defeat the pupose of having the cable
    bare or are they just not cool or unnecessary. Would using them be the same as putting reflectors
    on? Is there a valid reason why some bikes have them and others don,t? The bike does not have them
    and I didn't plan on using them.I am just curious about this.

    Thanks for any input. Fredzep

    Typically you'll find rubber or nylon 'donuts' that are slipped over the cables between cable stops.
    If there is a long distance between cable stops on your bike, the donuts would help to keep the
    cable from slapping the frame. Assuming you ride in rough terrain. Just an educated guess, maybe one
    donut for every six inches of exposed cable.

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    Typically you'll find rubber or nylon 'donuts' that are slipped over the cables between cable
    stops. If there is a long distance between cable stops on your bike, the donuts would help to keep
    the cable from slapping the frame. Assuming you ride in rough terrain. Just an educated guess,
    maybe one donut for every six inches of exposed cable.

    The trouble with the donuts is after the first few rides they all congregate at the rear of the
    top tube. You can push them back up, but they migrate back down. I'm not sure they do much good
    in the end.

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    Cameron said:

    Typically you'll find rubber or nylon 'donuts' that are slipped over the cables between cable
    stops. If there is a long distance between cable stops on your bike, the donuts would help to
    keep the cable from slapping the frame. Assuming you ride in rough terrain. Just an educated
    guess, maybe one donut for every six inches of exposed cable.

    The trouble with the donuts is after the first few rides they all congregate at the rear of the
    top tube. You can push them back up, but they migrate back down. I'm not sure they do much good in
    the end.

    I noticed that, too. Maybe put 50 or 100 on? ;-) Or on an off day you could put a small dab of caulk
    on the cable where the donut(s) sit to keep 'em in place. I might try that.

    --
    Cameron

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    Typically you'll find rubber or nylon 'donuts' that are slipped over


    the cables

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    between cable stops. If there is a long distance between cable stops


    on your

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    bike, the donuts would help to keep the cable from slapping the frame.


    Assuming

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    you ride in rough terrain. Just an educated guess, maybe one donut for


    every six

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    inches of exposed cable.

    The trouble with the donuts is after the first few rides they all


    congregate at the rear

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    of the top tube. You can push them back up, but they migrate back down.


    I'm not sure

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    they do much good in the end.

    I noticed that, too. Maybe put 50 or 100 on? ;-) Or on an off day you


    could put a small

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    dab of caulk on the cable where the donut(s) sit to keep 'em in place. I


    might try that.

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    that may work, but the problem is then the "donut" will rub a lot more on the frame,

    just typing a thought

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    Cameron

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    Cameron wrote:

    > Typically you'll find rubber or nylon 'donuts' that are slipped over


    the cables

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    > between cable stops. If there is a long distance between cable stops


    on your

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    > bike, the donuts would help to keep the cable from slapping the frame.


    Assuming

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    > you ride in rough terrain. Just an educated guess, maybe one donut for


    every six

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    > inches of exposed cable.

    The trouble with the donuts is after the first few rides they all


    congregate at the rear

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    of the top tube. You can push them back up, but they migrate back down.


    I'm not sure

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    they do much good in the end.

    I noticed that, too. Maybe put 50 or 100 on? ;-) Or on an off day you


    could put a small

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    dab of caulk on the cable where the donut(s) sit to keep 'em in place. I


    might try that.

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    that may work, but the problem is then the "donut" will rub a lot more on the frame,

    just typing a thought

    Couldn't be any worse than cable housing rubbing the head tube. Unsightly, to say the least.

    --
    Cameron

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    > Cameron wrote:
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    > > Typically you'll find rubber or nylon 'donuts' that are slipped


    over

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    the cables

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    > > between cable stops. If there is a long distance between cable


    stops

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    on your

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    > > bike, the donuts would help to keep the cable from slapping the


    frame.

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    Assuming

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    > > you ride in rough terrain. Just an educated guess, maybe one donut


    for

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    every six

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    > > inches of exposed cable.
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    > The trouble with the donuts is after the first few rides they all


    congregate at the rear

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    > of the top tube. You can push them back up, but they migrate back


    down.

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    I'm not sure

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    > they do much good in the end.

    I noticed that, too. Maybe put 50 or 100 on? ;-) Or on an off day you


    could put a small

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    dab of caulk on the cable where the donut(s) sit to keep 'em in place.


    I

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    might try that.

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    that may work, but the problem is then the "donut" will rub a lot more


    on

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    the frame,

    just typing a thought

    Couldn't be any worse than cable housing rubbing the head tube. Unsightly,


    to

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    say the least.

    --
    Cameron


    I have those donut things and they all ride to the back making them useless.They used to stay in
    place much better when they were newer so I'll probably just replace them. I cross posted on another
    ng and they explained the reason for the donuts over the sleeves is so that you could slide the
    housings around for maintenance.

    Fredzep

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    that may work, but the problem is then the "donut" will rub a lot more


    on

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    the frame,

    just typing a thought

    Couldn't be any worse than cable housing rubbing the head tube. Unsightly,


    to

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    say the least.

    Aye, but you can get these little clear sticky plastic things that you stick to the frame underneath
    'em to stop that. As for me, well, I just been using the little clear sticky tabs off packets of
    Golden Virginia tobaco ',;~}

    Shaun aRe - You callin me tight fisted?....

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    that may work, but the problem is then the "donut" will rub a lot more


    on

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    the frame,

    just typing a thought

    Couldn't be any worse than cable housing rubbing the head tube.


    Unsightly,

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    to

    Quoted message said:

    say the least.

    Aye, but you can get these little clear sticky plastic things that you


    stick

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    to the frame underneath 'em to stop that. As for me, well, I just been


    using

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    the little clear sticky tabs off packets of Golden Virginia tobaco ',;~}

    I got some clear vinyl from the local motorbike shop. It's specifically for covering petrol tanks
    and fairings to stop scratches and unsightly stone chips. I wrapped the top tube and down tubes on
    my bike when it was shiny new to stop major paint damage. I also put some appropriately shaped bits
    where cables rub. But having said that, I just keep pushing the donuts back into place when I notice
    that they've moved. A migrating 7mm black rubber donut is not a major issue in my book and not worth
    agonising too much about. If it's paint damage that you're worried about, look at where cable
    housings rub against the frame.

    Westie

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    Shaun aRe - You callin me tight fisted?....

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    > "Cameron" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > that may work, but the problem is then the "donut" will rub a lot


    more

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    on

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    > the frame,
    >
    > just typing a thought
    >

    Couldn't be any worse than cable housing rubbing the head tube.


    Unsightly,

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    to

    Quoted message said:

    say the least.

    Aye, but you can get these little clear sticky plastic things that you


    stick

    Quoted message said:

    to the frame underneath 'em to stop that. As for me, well, I just been


    using

    Quoted message said:

    the little clear sticky tabs off packets of Golden Virginia tobaco ',;~}

    I got some clear vinyl from the local motorbike shop. It's specifically


    for

    Quoted message said:

    covering petrol tanks and fairings to stop scratches and unsightly stone chips. I wrapped the top
    tube and down tubes on my bike when it was shiny new to stop major paint damage. I also put some
    appropriately shaped bits where cables rub. But having said that, I just keep pushing the donuts


    back

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    into place when I notice that they've moved. A migrating 7mm black rubber donut is not a major
    issue in my book and not worth agonising too much about. If it's paint damage that you're worried
    about, look at where


    cable

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    housings rub against the frame.

    Westie

    I thought that's what I was talking about? Heh, I musta been wrong......

    ',;~}

    Shaun aRe

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    > > that may work, but the problem is then the "donut" will rub a lot


    more

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    on
    > > the frame,
    > >
    > > just typing a thought
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    > Couldn't be any worse than cable housing rubbing the head tube.


    Unsightly,

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    to
    > say the least.

    Aye, but you can get these little clear sticky plastic things that you


    stick

    Quoted message said:

    to the frame underneath 'em to stop that. As for me, well, I just been


    using

    Quoted message said:

    the little clear sticky tabs off packets of Golden Virginia tobaco


    ',;~}

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    I got some clear vinyl from the local motorbike shop. It's specifically


    for

    Quoted message said:

    covering petrol tanks and fairings to stop scratches and unsightly stone chips. I wrapped the
    top tube and down tubes on my bike when it was


    shiny

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    new to stop major paint damage. I also put some appropriately shaped


    bits

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    where cables rub. But having said that, I just keep pushing the donuts


    back

    Quoted message said:

    into place when I notice that they've moved. A migrating 7mm black


    rubber

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    donut is not a major issue in my book and not worth agonising too much about. If it's paint
    damage that you're worried about, look at where


    cable

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    housings rub against the frame.

    Westie

    I thought that's what I was talking about? Heh, I musta been wrong......

    ',;~}

    Shaun aRe

    Shaun, few of us understand anything that you're talking about. And I won't even risk taking a guess
    to whether or not you know what you're talking about. ;-)

    Westie

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    "Shaun Rimmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    I thought that's what I was talking about? Heh, I musta been wrong......

    ',;~}

    Shaun aRe

    Shaun, few of us understand anything that you're talking about. And I won't even risk taking a
    guess to whether or not you know what


    you're

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    talking about. ;-)

    Aye, that's as maybe, most being stoopit, but I had you figured as one of the smarter folks
    here ',;~P````

    Shaun aRe

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