standing while using rollers

The rollers have shown you that your normal out of the saddle position is too far forward. Your goal
is to get the centre of gravity over the pedal spindle, which tends to result in your body being
more centred. When you move forward, you take weight away from the pedal spindle and rear wheel.
This can also lead to poor traction and power application.

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Hello, I have used a trainer for the past few seasons and now using rollers. I am at the point
where I can ride without tipping off and trying to stand while riding. I can, but I have to
position myself over the center of the bike to get good balance. This is not my natural position
to stand while riding on the road for I tend to lean more forward and over the bars. When trying
this on rollers it is quite difficult and I am not able to keep balance. Is standing a fundamental
no-no while using rollers or should I keep trying to stand in my normal riding position? Thanks,
Rick in Tennessee

Dude - here's what to do: get a digital camcorder, and film yourself trying to stand up and ride.
When you get a good clip of yourself biffing, post a link.

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Hello, I have used a trainer for the past few seasons and now using rollers. I am at the point
where I can ride without tipping off and trying to stand while riding. I can, but I have to
position myself over the center of the bike to get good balance. This is not my natural position
to stand while riding on the road for I tend to lean more forward and over the bars. When trying
this on rollers it is quite difficult and I am not able to keep balance. Is standing a fundamental
no-no while using rollers or should I keep trying to stand in my normal riding position? Thanks,
Rick in Tennessee

I HAVE to stand occasionally when riding rollers to keep my nuts from getting too numb... just like
if I do a long flat ride when I don't ever have to get out of the saddle. Usually, when you're out
of the saddle on the road, however you're going uphill (unless you're sprinting, but don't try THAT
on the rollers) so, even though you may be directly over your cranks, the bike is tilted upwards so
your stem/bars are a lot closer, right? Your body's C of G over the cranks hasn't changed...
although this is good food for thought... I'll have to think about it next time I'm on the
rollers... I remember a decade or so ago, seeing footage of Andy Hampsten climbing in the tour and
being surprised at how forward he was on the bike when standing... more so than most other riders...
but then the angle of the hill was probably steeper than it looked on TV. When you're standing on
the rollers, however, your bike is level, so obviously you're not going to be kissing the stem with
your nuts like you might on a steep climb.

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Hello, I have used a trainer for the past few seasons and now using rollers. I am at the point
where I can ride without tipping off and trying to stand while riding. I can, but I have to
position myself over the center of the bike to get good balance. This is not my natural position
to stand while riding on the road for I tend to lean more forward and over the bars. When trying
this on rollers it is quite difficult and I am not able to keep balance. Is standing a fundamental
no-no while using rollers or should I keep trying to stand in my normal riding position? Thanks,
Rick in Tennessee

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Hello, I have used a trainer for the past few seasons and now using rollers. I am at the point
where I can ride without tipping off and trying to stand while riding. I can, but I have to
position myself over the center of the bike to get good balance. This is not my natural position
to stand while riding on the road for I tend to lean more forward and over the bars. When trying
this on rollers it is quite difficult and I am not able to keep balance. Is standing a fundamental
no-no while using rollers or should I keep trying to stand in my normal riding position? Thanks,
Rick in Tennessee

I've been riding rollers for years. When my nuts need a break, I take a break for 30 to 90 seconds.
It's a good time to grab a drink, too. (Got a Koobi PRS saddle this year. Don't need to take near as
many breaks as I used to. Great saddle!) I figure rollers are for spinning and working on form while
seated. If I need to work on out-of-saddle efforts, I bundle up and go outside or pop the bike on
the trainer. But as the other poster suggested, if you insist on becoming proficient at it, please
get some video and post a link of your favorite biffs.

Bob C.

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The rollers have shown you that your normal out of the saddle position is too far forward.

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Absolute nonsense.

Simply put, a bike, even one set up perfectly, does not handle the same on rollers. There are many
reasons for this.

The solution, as another poster has mentioned, is to take breaks when riding rollers. There is not
reason to be on the rollers for extended periods of time, and if you wish to do an extended session
on them, break it up into shorter segments with periods where you step off the bike.

-RJ

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Quoted message said:

Hello, I have used a trainer for the past few seasons and now using rollers. I am at the point
where I can ride without tipping off and trying to stand while riding. I can, but I have to
position myself over the center of the bike to get good balance. This is not my natural position
to stand while riding on the road for I tend to lean more forward and over the bars. When trying
this on rollers it is quite difficult and I am not able to keep balance. Is standing a
fundamental no-no while using rollers or should I keep trying to stand in my normal riding
position? Thanks, Rick in Tennessee

Dont worry about where your body is when standing on your rollers. You only stand to give yourself a
break. You obviously have noticed that you have to pedal pretty slowly to keep from rocking off the
end of them anyway. Just stand up relax and stay smooth for a bit.

Rick "You dont slow down because you get old, you get old because you slow down."

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Hello, I have used a trainer for the past few seasons and now using rollers. I am at the point
where I can ride without tipping off and trying to stand while riding. I can, but I have to
position myself over the center of the bike to get good balance. This is not my natural position
to stand while riding on the road for I tend to lean more forward and over the bars. When trying
this on rollers it is quite difficult and I am not able to keep balance. Is standing a
fundamental no-no while using rollers or should I keep trying to stand in my normal riding
position? Thanks, Rick in Tennessee

I've been riding rollers for years. When my nuts need a break, I take a break for 30 to 90
seconds. It's a good time to grab a drink, too. (Got

a

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Koobi PRS saddle this year. Don't need to take near as many breaks as I used to. Great saddle!) I
figure rollers are for spinning and working on form while seated. If I need to work on out-of-
saddle efforts, I bundle

up

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and go outside or pop the bike on the trainer. But as the other poster suggested, if you insist on
becoming proficient at it, please get some

video

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and post a link of your favorite biffs.

Bob C.

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The rollers have shown you that your normal out of the saddle position is too far forward...

Too far forward for what?!

You stand on the road for extra torque; meaning you are either going up-hill or accelerating. In
both cases the force acting on you is no longer straight down, but down and back, so you compensate
by leaning forward.

Ever try standing while just moseying along? Feels wierd, you feel like if you are leaning back.
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