Bamford Edge

Conaglen said:

Does anyone have any knowledge of a path on the top of Bamford Edge?

No right of way is shown there on the Dark Peak Map, and it does not appear to be access land.

To the best of my knowledge there is no path and the landowner does not allow access......
which is a pity
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Conaglen wrote

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Does anyone have any knowledge of a path on the top of Bamford Edge?

I have walked up there many times and have never had any problems. There is a path but it does not
exit at the Northern end. You are better crossing Bamford Moor (when either dry or frozen) and
making your way to Nab End on Stanage.

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"Chris Gilbert" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Does anyone have any knowledge of a path on the top of Bamford Edge?

Quoted message said:

I have walked up there many times and have never had any problems. There is a path but it does not
exit at the Northern end. You are better crossing Bamford Moor (when either dry or frozen) and
making your way to Nab End on Stanage.

I remember doing exactly that when I first moved to Sheffield. After a quick drive around the moors
I parked up on the A57 and struck off across the moor ignoring any paths wondering what I would find
(no map ofcourse). I can remember sunbathing on the rocks overlooking Ladybower reservoir and then
wandering off to stumble upon Stanage Edge. Having grown up in a world of trees that must have been
my first experience of the wide open spaces...ah...memories.

Conaglen said:

Does anyone have any knowledge of a path on the top of Bamford Edge?

No right of way is shown there on the Dark Peak Map, and it does not appear to be access land.

Well climbing is allowed there by prior permission from the gamekeeper only, and then only usually
between October and April. I'd assume that similar conditions would apply for walking, but wouldn't
be surprised if walkers were discouraged completely (climbers are at least confined to one area and
one approach). Details of phone numbers etc are on the BMC web site at
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I don't know how the CRoW act will change the situation, my guess would be that access will become a
lot easier.

Simon

Simon Caldwell said:

Conaglen said:

Does anyone have any knowledge of a path on the top of Bamford Edge?

No right of way is shown there on the Dark Peak Map, and it does not appear to be access land.

Well climbing is allowed there by prior permission from the gamekeeper only, and then only usually
between October and April. I'd assume that similar conditions would apply for walking, but
wouldn't be surprised if walkers were discouraged completely (climbers are at least confined to
one area and one approach). Details of phone numbers etc are on the BMC web site at
thebmc.co.ukrad det.aspOpen ↗

I don't know how the CRoW act will change the situation, my guess would be that access will become
a lot easier.

Simon

I don't know the area so did a Google search, if it is that hard to get permision to get up there
how come this party took 25 up.

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and this guy didn't seem to have any problems getting these pictures.

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Sandy wrote

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if it is that hard to get permision to get up there how come this party took 25 up.

As I said, I have never had a problem. I have even walked accross the moor when they've been
burning off the heather and have never been challenged. Perhaps they were hoping that I would
perish in the flames!

Chris

On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 21:26:48 GMT, "Sandy" <[email hidden]>

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I don't know the area so did a Google search, if it is that hard to get permision to get up there
how come this party took 25 up.

It isn't hard to get permission between October and April - but not for large groups, which are
discouraged. I've never heard of it being denied. It is rare but not unknown for permission to be
given in the summer.

So either the people who took the photos got permission (unlikely for a group of 25 in July I'd have
said). Or they went without permission. Which some people would say is fine, exercising moral
rights, etc etc. Others would say that it's jeopardising good relations with the landowners built up
over many years.

S.

"Simon Caldwell" <[email hidden]> wrote

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So either the people who took the photos got permission (unlikely for a group of 25 in July I'd
have said). Or they went without permission. Which some people would say is fine, exercising moral
rights, etc etc. Others would say that it's jeopardising good relations with the landowners built
up over many years.

Are there signs up saying "access only by phoning this number". As I said above I wandered around
there a few times (this was about 15 years ago though) and thought I might revisit. I can't remember
seeing any kind of signs or fences and the idea that any kind of land was out of bounds wouldn't
have entered my head at that time even if it was fenced.

Simon Caldwell said:

Sandy said:

So either the people who took the photos got permission (unlikely for a group of 25 in July I'd
have said). Or they went without permission. Which some people would say is fine, exercising moral
rights, etc etc. Others would say that it's jeopardising good relations with the landowners built
up over many years.

S.

I came across this at the same time, it mentions a mass trespass but there is no date.

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To the best of my knowledge there is no path and the landowner does not allow access...... which
is a pity

Not a true goml situation, so cooperate on this one,

Check the latest climbing guides... Folk climb there with little problem. Takes a call to the
gamey thts all

Richard Webb

Quoted message said:

Well climbing is allowed there by prior permission from the gamekeeper
only, and then only usually between October and April. I'd assume
that similar conditions would apply for walking, but wouldn't be
surprised if walkers were discouraged completely (climbers are at
least confined to one area and one approach). Details of phone
numbers etc are on the BMC web site at
thebmc.co.ukrad det.aspOpen ↗

They dont know you are not climbing.. you just backed off your route
:-)
My wife got briefed for range west once. She will never climb, but got to accompany me on a climbing
trip and therefore was able to freely walk the Pembrokeshire coast path.

There is a marilyn in Wales. Go as a fisherman, and you get to drive up. Go as a walker, and its
sitka and goml dodging for you.. Gomls on the road and sitka on the footpaths. Often impersonating
another sport gets you round a problem.

Richard Webb

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There is a marilyn in Wales. Go as a fisherman, and you get to drive up. Go as a walker, and its
sitka and goml dodging for you.. Gomls on the road and sitka on the footpaths. Often impersonating
another sport gets you round a problem.

Would you care to mention which one, and I'll make sure I pack the fishing rods when its turn
arrives...

Thanks for all the information folks, having been directed to a climbing site that gave the name and
number of the moor keeper, permission has been given to walk there, together with useful advice.

Conaglen

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On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 18:02:43 GMT, [email hidden] (RJ

Webb) said:

Not a true goml situation,

Why not?

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(RJ Webb) said:

Not a true goml situation,

Why not?

Because ther is little evidence of problems with small groups of walkers, and climbing seems to be
hassle free - other than a tradition of cooperating with the gamey.

A real Goml, worthy of high gomeldom and a credit to the black art, would be a damned sight better
at keeping us out...

I agree that the situation is not entirely satisfactory though.. Just that there are worse cases and
dont write off the edge as forbidden ground.

Richard Webb

Carnedd Wen, North of Llanbrynmair, Montgomeryshire. SH924098 Permits for Llyn Gwyddior and Coch-
hwyiad from Llanbrynmair last I heard cannot

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Tight Lines! The road to Coch-hwyiad passes a few metres from the trig. If you walk it, dont try and
bushwhack to a forest road to the NW like I did - grrrrr!

Richard Webb

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Carnedd Wen, North of Llanbrynmair, Montgomeryshire. SH924098

Thanks for the 'heads up'.

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Bootlaces said:

In [email hidden] Richard Webb mused:

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Carnedd Wen, North of Llanbrynmair, Montgomeryshire. SH924098

Thanks for the 'heads up'.

What's a 'heads up'?

I'll give you an example....

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In [email hidden] Richard Webb mused:

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Carnedd Wen, North of Llanbrynmair, Montgomeryshire. SH924098

Thanks for the 'heads up'.

What's a 'heads up'?

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