Lance and Jeff Gordon

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Both involved in high profile seperations (one is in divorce court, the other...). Jeff was
definitely affected by his spectacular spearation

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year, and the worst is yet to come. According to the NASCAR grapevine, he

was

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playing the field.

Only the Biggest Fred would bring the NECKCAR grapevine into this newsgroup.

Kurgan said:

Bikerecker said:

Both involved in high profile seperations (one is in divorce court, the other...). Jeff was
definitely affected by his spectacular spearation last year, and the worst is yet to come.
According to the NASCAR grapevine, he was playing the field.

Only the Biggest Fred would bring the NECKCAR grapevine into this

newsgroup.

Speaking of NECKCAR, here's an article from a RAND guy who doesn't know anything about
bicycle racing.

slate.msn.com2078672Open ↗

About a year ago I was trying to explain the game theoretic aspects of bike racing to a friend of
mine. I should have written it up.

On 2/24/03 1:41 AM, in article
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Both involved in high profile seperations (one is in divorce court, the other...). Jeff was
definitely affected by his spectacular spearation

last

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year, and the worst is yet to come. According to the NASCAR grapevine, he

was

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playing the field.

Only the Biggest Fred would bring the NECKCAR grapevine into this newsgroup.

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Only the Biggest Fred would bring the NECKCAR grapevine into this

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Hey Fattie -

Do you know that cyclists are generally very unpopular with NECKS? Do you know that rbr is a
newsgroup for bike racers?

Ever wonder why the Jamul road race doesn't happen anymore? The NECKS became too big of a
problem, threatening violence when the pansy, lycra clad cyclists clutterred their road 1 day out
of the year.

Go NECKCAR!

Kyle Earnheart is my favorite driver, he's cute. I like Bobby Jarrett too.

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year, and the worst is yet to come. According to the NASCAR grapevine, he was playing the field.
Lance can't go into the season without being affected by the seperation. Greg

Well, if JG was 'playing the field', he has no one to blame but himself and deserves no pity.

I'm truly sorry for LA & Co. if the almost inevitable happens. Celebrities seem to have it tougher
than anyone else. Maybe it's their inflated egos, work schedules, who knows. Only a precious few
celebrity couples can make it work.

Reading through some of the posts, it seems like some folks here want there to be a divorce so that
they have more smutty details to read later. I hope (most likely against hope) that their
relationship can be saved. I doubt anyone who has been through a divorce was exactly jumping up and
down with joy.

---
Kelly Beard, a.k.a. Mr. K.V.B. Liar

The Arrogant, Elitist and Omniscient H. Chang, esq., wrote::

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only the Biggest Fred would bring the NECKCAR grapevine into this newsgroup.

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1) if you can't see the obvious parallels, I can't help you.
2) I am a Fred. A Cat 1 Fred with 20 years' racing experience and $13,000 in bikes in my garage.
Nonetheless, a Fred. You gonna make something of it?
3) I was gonna get your back against BJ, but now I'm gonna help him thump you. Next time I see you
at a race, of course.

Greg Miller

NASCAR fan F1 Fan (worked for Tyrrell F1 Team in 80's) CART fan WRC fan USRRC fan FIM GP500 fan
WSB fan AMA Supercross fan AMA Superbike fan NHRA Top Fuel fan ALMS fan Trans Am fan F3000 fan
Paris Dakar fan

what did I miss?

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Only the Biggest Fred would bring the NECKCAR grapevine into this

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Hey Fattie -

Do you know that cyclists are generally very unpopular with NECKS? Do you know that rbr is a
newsgroup for bike racers?

Ever wonder why the Jamul road race doesn't happen anymore? The NECKS

became

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too big of a problem, threatening violence when the pansy, lycra clad cyclists clutterred their
road 1 day out of the year.

Go NECKCAR!

Kyle Earnheart is my favorite driver, he's cute. I like Bobby Jarrett too.

"Kurgan Gringioni" [email hidden] wrote in message

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Ever wonder why the Jamul road race doesn't happen anymore? The NECKS

became

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too big of a problem, threatening violence when the pansy, lycra clad cyclists clutterred their
road 1 day out of the year.

Whatever the reason, losing a race like the Jamul road race is an absolute shame. That course was
designed for truly epic races.

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Subject: Re: Lance and Jeff Gordon From: [email hidden] (Bikerecker) Date: 2/24/03 6:55 PM
Central Standard Time Message-id: <[email hidden]>

The Arrogant, Elitist and Omniscient H. Chang, esq., wrote::

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only the Biggest Fred would bring the NECKCAR grapevine into this newsgroup.

:

1) if you can't see the obvious parallels, I can't help you.
2) I am a Fred. A Cat 1 Fred with 20 years' racing experience and $13,000 in bikes in my garage.
Nonetheless, a Fred. You gonna make something of it?
3) I was gonna get your back against BJ, but now I'm gonna help him thump you. Next time I see you
at a race, of course.

Greg Miller

NASCAR fan F1 Fan (worked for Tyrrell F1 Team in 80's) CART fan WRC fan USRRC fan FIM GP500 fan WSB
fan AMA Supercross fan AMA Superbike fan NHRA Top Fuel fan ALMS fan Trans Am fan F3000 fan Paris
Dakar fan

what did I miss?

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thanks, jason

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"Kurgan Gringioni" [email hidden] wrote in message

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Ever wonder why the Jamul road race doesn't happen anymore? The NECKS

became

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too big of a problem, threatening violence when the pansy, lycra clad cyclists clutterred their
road 1 day out of the year.

Whatever the reason, losing a race like the Jamul road race is an absolute shame. That course was
designed for truly epic races.

Did you do that race when it was early February, organized by UCSD? If so, what year?

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The Arrogant, Elitist and Omniscient H. Chang, esq., wrote::

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only the Biggest Fred would bring the NECKCAR grapevine into this

newsgroup.

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1) if you can't see the obvious parallels, I can't help you.
2) I am a Fred. A Cat 1 Fred with 20 years' racing experience and $13,000

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bikes in my garage. Nonetheless, a Fred. You gonna make something of it?
3) I was gonna get your back against BJ, but now I'm gonna help him thump

you.

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Next time I see you at a race, of course.

Greg Miller

NASCAR fan F1 Fan (worked for Tyrrell F1 Team in 80's) CART fan WRC fan USRRC fan FIM GP500 fan
WSB fan AMA Supercross fan AMA Superbike fan NHRA Top Fuel fan ALMS fan Trans Am fan F3000 fan
Paris Dakar fan

You are a fan of all those things and you're a cat 1 and you have $13,000 in bikes? Wow! I'll bet
you get laid a lot.

Not to mention that you're going to kick my butt at the next bike race along with Head-up-his-ass
Johnston. That is funny stuff. Tough Guys in Lycra. You two might want to start a website, there's a
made to order clientelle for that sort of thing. You could get rich. Can I invest?

K. Gringioni future investor in www.toughguysinlycra.com

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Whatever the reason, losing a race like the Jamul road race is an

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shame. That course was designed for truly epic races.

Did you do that race when it was early February, organized by UCSD? If so, what year?

I was there in '94 & '95 (I don't think they held the race in '96). We trained on the course, but
somehow it didn't meet our training schedule. I think in '95 we had specific track training for the
Pan-Am Games that kept us from doing it, although I think Dirk Copeland rode it since he wasn't on
the P-A team that year.

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Whatever the reason, losing a race like the Jamul road race is an

absolute

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shame. That course was designed for truly epic races.

Did you do that race when it was early February, organized by UCSD? If

so,

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what year?

I was there in '94 & '95 (I don't think they held the race in '96). We trained on the course,
but somehow it didn't meet our training schedule. I think in '95 we had specific track training
for the Pan-Am Games that kept us from doing it, although I think Dirk Copeland rode it since
he wasn't

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the P-A team that year.

I remember one of the National Team guys doing pretty well one of those years. Zach Conrad? I'm not
sure. Definitely a really, really hard course, 15 miles of hell.

The NECKS did the race in. They were threatening the race marshalls and getting road rage - we
couldn't afford to hire up bunch of cops to keep them at bay.