Tiredness

"Jonathan Turner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Can anybody answer my tiredness question? I would be very grateful for help.

I finished University in June 2003 and began doing a temporary job in September. Since then, I've
begun to feel progressively more tired all the time. I've never had a great deal of energy, indeed
I have had episodes of tiredness before when I was at university, but it did not have such a
detrimental effect on me then because of the freedom of university life. However, since beginning
work, I have found it increasingly difficult to cope.

I only work 9-5 weekdays, so my hours are certainly not long. I seem to get at least 8 hours sleep
each night, and always feel dreadful in the mornings. I eat healthily, am not overweight, I try to
exercise, although this is more difficult now that I feel more tired. In any event, exercise seems
to make me feel more tired. I am only 22 years old.

I find my job a bit stressful (providing legal advice to irate consumers at Trading Standards) but
it is certainly nothing that I cannot cope with psychologically.

I have been to my GP for blood tests and he can find nothing wrong. Neither is it likely to be CFS
because I don't have any symptoms other than tiredness (e.g.pain, flu-like symptoms etc.)

I'm really worried, because I'm not able to do anything in my leisure time. I just go to work,
come home, cook and go to bed. Furthermore, I don't feel that I have enough energy to do my job
properly at work and I can't see where I can go with my career because I wouldn't be able to put
in enough hours to get ahead.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Jonathan.

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Jonathan Turner said:

Can anybody answer my tiredness question? I would be very grateful for help.

I finished University in June 2003 and began doing a temporary job in September. Since then, I've
begun to feel progressively more tired all the time... <snip details, incl. doctors consultations>

Quoted message said:

I try to exercise, although this is more difficult now that I feel more tired. In any event,
exercise seems to make me feel more tired

My first thought is that the change from uni to work life has upset what I'll call, for want of a
better work, your bodily rhythms. All I can suggest right now is to try and see if there's any
pattern in your tiredness, and hope that this is all it is. Regards cycjec

Jonathan Turner said:

Can anybody answer my tiredness question?

Another thought. Standard caution, IANAD.

Quoted message said:

I seem to get at least 8 hours sleep each night, and always feel dreadful in the mornings

You might want to investigate here. I know very little about sleep disorders, only that they can
be very debilitating. Are you sleepy in the daytime?

Regards C.

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Jonathan, I can honestly say, I am in the same condition.....even to the point where I doze easy,
sitting in chairs at doctor's offices, in a car while driving.....scary. I too try to get sleep, but
wake up exhausted and the day seems to drag on and on.....

Douglas

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"Jonathan Turner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Can anybody answer my tiredness question? I would be very grateful for help.

I finished University in June 2003 and began doing a temporary job in September. Since then,
I've begun to feel progressively more tired all the time. I've never had a great deal of energy,
indeed I have had episodes of tiredness before when I was at university, but it did not have
such a detrimental effect on me then because of the freedom of university life. However, since
beginning work, I have found it increasingly difficult to cope.

I only work 9-5 weekdays, so my hours are certainly not long. I seem to get at least 8 hours
sleep each night, and always feel dreadful in the mornings. I eat healthily, am not overweight,
I try to exercise, although this is more difficult now that I feel more tired. In any event,
exercise seems to make me feel more tired. I am only 22 years old.

I find my job a bit stressful (providing legal advice to irate consumers at Trading Standards)
but it is certainly nothing that I cannot cope with psychologically.

I have been to my GP for blood tests and he can find nothing wrong. Neither is it likely to be
CFS because I don't have any symptoms other than tiredness (e.g.pain, flu-like symptoms etc.)

I'm really worried, because I'm not able to do anything in my leisure time. I just go to work,
come home, cook and go to bed. Furthermore, I don't feel that I have enough energy to do my job
properly at work and I can't see where I can go with my career because I wouldn't be able to put
in enough hours to get ahead.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Jonathan.

Maybe you should check whether you had any sorts of infections in your body.

I tend to feel tired all day long even though I eat and sleep normally. I feel tired and sleepy all
the time...but my problem is simple, there are infections in my nose, throat, and allergy also...If
I am not wrong, it is these infections that draw a lot of blood to there and contaminated the blood?
or drprived of the oxygen to brain...

there is really no hope to my tiredness, I am fed up with it...

in the case of uncurable infection, sports won't help, it only makes the body more tolerant to pain
but infection is still there...Modern medical practicioners are really lousy they can "treat" only
few infections...they are highly paided and thus reluctant to explore new medicines...

Invincible

"cycjec" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Jonathan Turner said:

Can anybody answer my tiredness question?

Another thought. Standard caution, IANAD.

Quoted message said:

I seem to get at least 8 hours sleep each night, and always feel dreadful in the mornings

You might want to investigate here. I know very little about sleep disorders, only that they
can be very debilitating. Are you sleepy in the daytime?

Regards C.

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is sleep apnea same as apnoca or apnoea?

The actual term i was given was apnoca, but didnt find a lot on the net under google, but was
pointed to apnea and apnoea.

regards

Andrew

"cycjec" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Jonathan Turner said:

Can anybody answer my tiredness question?

Another thought. Standard caution, IANAD.

Quoted message said:

I seem to get at least 8 hours sleep each night, and always feel dreadful in the mornings

You might want to investigate here. I know very little about sleep disorders, only that they
can be very debilitating. Are you sleepy in the daytime?

Regards C.

--
The scene in NY: nylxs.comnylxs.comOpen ↗

Invincible,

I suffered for years and was finally diagnosed with irritable bowel syndrome. I was tired all of the
time, had an acid taste in my mouth 24/7, horrible gas, etc, etc, and it all of my doctor's tests
(barium x-ray, ultrasound, bloodwork) showed up clear. I was at the point where I was on the couch
shooing my little children away because I was so tired and feeling so sick. A friend showed me a
video by a medical doctor and it described quite a few of my symptoms. Turns out my only problem was
a toxic colon. When my colon was cleaned my symptoms went away! I'm so thankful that my friend told
me about it, or else I would probably still be taking tests without any relief!

If you would like, I could send you a copy of the video. First, though, how many of these
other symptoms do you have: skin problems/dry itchy acne headaches/migraines difficulty losing
weight aching joints muscle cramps difficulty handling stress frequent colds and infections
poor concentration craving for sweets/salts high/low blood pressure frequently taking pain
killers low self-esteem difficulty getting up in morning difficulty falling asleep cold hands
and feet shortness of breath often feel bloated belching, burping, gas after meals
heartburn/indigestion constipation/diarrhea brittle fingernails/limp/dry hair hair loss
allergies/hayfever poor night vision

varicose veins body odor/bad breath poor memory low endurance level problems with yeast fungus

I rated these symptoms from one to 5 and initially I had 86! Two weeks later I had 53, and month
later 28, a month later 6 and then 1! I began using Experience (colon cleanse, also used to lose
weight and weight management) and Daily Complete (an awesome vitamin), together called a StarterPak.
They gave me my health back and I want as many people as possible to know about them, because, trust
me, your doctor won't tell you. Check them out for yourself, including the clinical studies and
listings in the Physician's Desk Reference: www.lisahangs.awarenesslife.com. I hope this helps, let
me know if you have any other questions.

Sincerely,

lisa "Invincible" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Maybe you should check whether you had any sorts of infections in your

body.

Quoted message said:

I tend to feel tired all day long even though I eat and sleep normally. I feel tired and sleepy
all the time...but my problem is simple, there are infections in my nose, throat, and allergy
also...If I am not wrong, it is these infections that draw a

lot

Quoted message said:

of blood to there and contaminated the blood? or drprived of the oxygen to brain...

there is really no hope to my tiredness, I am fed up with it...

in the case of uncurable infection, sports won't help, it only makes the body more tolerant to
pain but infection is still there...Modern medical

practicioners

Quoted message said:

are really lousy they can "treat" only few infections...they are highly paided and

thus

Quoted message said:

reluctant to explore new medicines...

Invincible

"cycjec" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Jonathan Turner said:

Can anybody answer my tiredness question?

Another thought. Standard caution, IANAD.

Quoted message said:

I seem to get at least 8 hours sleep each night, and always feel dreadful in the mornings

You might want to investigate here. I know very little about sleep disorders, only that they
can be very debilitating. Are you sleepy in the daytime?

Regards C.

--
The scene in NY: nylxs.comnylxs.comOpen ↗

That's an awful lot of symptoms.. they really like to cover their keesters. I dunno, I'd be
cautious of anyone promoting anything that's for people with any one of the symptoms when it's a
list that long.

"Ryan Hangs" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Invincible,

I suffered for years and was finally diagnosed with irritable bowel syndrome. I was tired all of
the time, had an acid taste in my mouth

24/7,

Quoted message said:

horrible gas, etc, etc, and it all of my doctor's tests (barium x-ray, ultrasound, bloodwork)
showed up clear. I was at the point where I was on the couch shooing my little children away
because I was so tired and

feeling

Quoted message said:

so sick. A friend showed me a video by a medical doctor and it described quite a few of my
symptoms. Turns out my only problem was a toxic colon. When my colon was cleaned my symptoms went
away! I'm so thankful that my friend told me about it, or else I would probably still be taking
tests without any relief!

If you would like, I could send you a copy of the video. First, though,

how

Quoted message said:

many of these other symptoms do you have: skin problems/dry itchy acne headaches/migraines
difficulty losing weight aching joints muscle cramps difficulty handling stress frequent colds and
infections poor concentration craving for sweets/salts high/low blood pressure frequently taking
pain killers low self-esteem difficulty getting up in morning difficulty falling asleep cold hands
and feet shortness of breath often feel bloated belching, burping, gas after meals
heartburn/indigestion constipation/diarrhea brittle fingernails/limp/dry hair hair loss
allergies/hayfever poor night vision

Quoted message said:

varicose veins body odor/bad breath poor memory low endurance level problems with yeast fungus

I rated these symptoms from one to 5 and initially I had 86! Two weeks later I had 53, and month
later 28, a month later 6 and then 1! I began using Experience (colon cleanse, also used to lose
weight and weight management) and Daily Complete (an awesome vitamin), together called a
StarterPak. They gave me my health back and I want as many people as possible to know about them,
because, trust me, your doctor won't tell

you.

Quoted message said:

Check them out for yourself, including the clinical studies and listings

in

Quoted message said:

the Physician's Desk Reference: www.lisahangs.awarenesslife.com. I hope this helps, let me know if
you have any other questions.

Sincerely,

lisa "Invincible" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Maybe you should check whether you had any sorts of infections in your

body.

Quoted message said:

I tend to feel tired all day long even though I eat and sleep normally.

I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

feel tired and sleepy all the time...but my problem is simple, there are infections in

my

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

nose, throat, and allergy also...If I am not wrong, it is these infections that draw a

lot

Quoted message said:

of blood to there and contaminated the blood? or drprived of the oxygen to brain...

there is really no hope to my tiredness, I am fed up with it...

in the case of uncurable infection, sports won't help, it only makes the body more tolerant to
pain but infection is still there...Modern medical

practicioners

Quoted message said:

are really lousy they can "treat" only few infections...they are highly paided and

thus

Quoted message said:

reluctant to explore new medicines...

Invincible

"cycjec" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Jonathan Turner <[email hidden]> wrote:
> Can anybody answer my tiredness question?

Another thought. Standard caution, IANAD.

> I seem to get at least 8 hours sleep each night, and always feel dreadful in the mornings

You might want to investigate here. I know very little about sleep disorders, only that
they can be very debilitating. Are you sleepy in the daytime?

Regards C.

--
The scene in NY: nylxs.comnylxs.comOpen ↗

Yeah...Ryan Hangs is just kidding...i just need to sleep well and eat no food before bed time...

Invincible

"lucy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

That's an awful lot of symptoms.. they really like to cover their

keesters.

Quoted message said:

I dunno, I'd be cautious of anyone promoting anything that's for people

with

Quoted message said:

any one of the symptoms when it's a list that long.

"Ryan Hangs" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Invincible,

I suffered for years and was finally diagnosed with irritable bowel syndrome. I was tired all of
the time, had an acid taste in my mouth

24/7,

Quoted message said:

horrible gas, etc, etc, and it all of my doctor's tests (barium x-ray, ultrasound, bloodwork)
showed up clear. I was at the point where I was

on

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the couch shooing my little children away because I was so tired and

feeling

Quoted message said:

so sick. A friend showed me a video by a medical doctor and it

described

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

quite a few of my symptoms. Turns out my only problem was a toxic

colon.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

When my colon was cleaned my symptoms went away! I'm so thankful that

my

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

friend told me about it, or else I would probably still be taking tests without any relief!

If you would like, I could send you a copy of the video. First, though,

how

Quoted message said:

many of these other symptoms do you have: skin problems/dry itchy acne headaches/migraines
difficulty losing weight aching joints muscle cramps difficulty handling stress frequent colds
and infections poor concentration craving for sweets/salts high/low blood pressure frequently
taking pain killers low self-esteem difficulty getting up in morning difficulty falling asleep
cold hands and feet shortness of breath often feel bloated belching, burping, gas after meals
heartburn/indigestion constipation/diarrhea brittle fingernails/limp/dry hair hair loss
allergies/hayfever poor night vision

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

varicose veins body odor/bad breath poor memory low endurance level problems with yeast fungus

I rated these symptoms from one to 5 and initially I had 86! Two weeks later I had 53, and month
later 28, a month later 6 and then 1! I

began

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

using Experience (colon cleanse, also used to lose weight and weight management) and Daily
Complete (an awesome vitamin), together called a StarterPak. They gave me my health back and I
want as many people as possible to know about them, because, trust me, your doctor won't tell

you.

Quoted message said:

Check them out for yourself, including the clinical studies and listings

in

Quoted message said:

the Physician's Desk Reference: www.lisahangs.awarenesslife.com. I

hope

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

this helps, let me know if you have any other questions.

Sincerely,

lisa "Invincible" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Maybe you should check whether you had any sorts of infections in your

body.

Quoted message said:

I tend to feel tired all day long even though I eat and sleep

normally.

Quoted message said:

I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

feel tired and sleepy all the time...but my problem is simple, there are infections

in

Quoted message said:

my

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

nose, throat, and allergy also...If I am not wrong, it is these infections that draw

a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

lot

Quoted message said:

of blood to there and contaminated the blood? or drprived of the oxygen to

brain...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

there is really no hope to my tiredness, I am fed up with it...

in the case of uncurable infection, sports won't help, it only makes

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

body more tolerant to pain but infection is still there...Modern medical

practicioners

Quoted message said:

are really lousy they can "treat" only few infections...they are highly paided

and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

thus

Quoted message said:

reluctant to explore new medicines...

Invincible

"cycjec" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9l1Db.2961$5M.78958@dfw-
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> Jonathan Turner <[email hidden]> wrote:
> > Can anybody answer my tiredness question?
>
> Another thought. Standard caution, IANAD.
>
>
> > I seem to get at least 8 hours sleep each night, and always feel dreadful in the mornings
>
>
> You might want to investigate here. I know very little about sleep disorders, only that
> they can be very debilitating. Are you sleepy in the daytime?
>
> Regards C.
>
>
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