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  1. Hi. New around these parts and am looking for some advice. My girlfriend and I are both a little
    overweight, and reckon it's diet related. I've had a look around and notice that weight watchers
    seem to do some decent looking cookbooks, according to Amazon anyway.

    Can I just pick up a couple of cookbooks and get going, or is there more to it than that? I didn't
    want anything too rigid, I just need to lower my calorie intake a bit. I know there's a points
    system with WW, but that's about the extent of my knowledge.

    If I outlay some cash for the books will they cover points and stuff so that I can get off the mark,
    or is there something else I need to do, or subscribe to, that's going to cost me extra, but is
    essential to getting started?

    Any advice welcome, thanks.

  2. Welcome.

    The recipe books will tell you the point values, but not the information needed that is pertinent to
    you. (point ranges vary according to weight and change as you lose. Also exercise isn't calculated
    in the books, but is an integral part of the program.

    A lot of the meetings offer free registration. You could attend, and get the info, and then do the
    program on your own with the help of this newsgroup and the books.

    Ebay also sells the program books from time to time.

    Carol

    --
    ............................................................
    318/239.4/169
    78.6 lost since December 2002
    I am a slim person in process.
    ..............................................................
    "Fludge" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi.
    New around these parts and am looking for some advice. My girlfriend and


    I

    Quoted message said:

    are both a little overweight, and reckon it's diet related. I've had a


    look

    Quoted message said:

    around and notice that weight watchers seem to do some decent looking
    cookbooks, according to Amazon anyway.

    Can I just pick up a couple of cookbooks and get going, or is there more


    to

    Quoted message said:

    it than that? I didn't want anything too rigid, I just need to lower my
    calorie intake a bit. I know there's a points system with WW, but that's
    about the extent of my knowledge.

    If I outlay some cash for the books will they cover points and stuff so


    that

    Quoted message said:

    I can get off the mark, or is there something else I need to do, or
    subscribe to, that's going to cost me extra, but is essential to getting
    started?

    Any advice welcome, thanks.

  3. So basically I could run a program using the cook books and the support of this NG but would need a
    meeting to work out and set up exactly what my program should be? Is that the deal? Thanks again.

    "Carol in NC" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Welcome.

    The recipe books will tell you the point values, but not the information needed that is pertinent
    to you. (point ranges vary according to weight


    and

    Quoted message said:

    change as you lose. Also exercise isn't calculated in the books, but is


    an

    Quoted message said:

    integral part of the program.

    A lot of the meetings offer free registration. You could attend, and get the info, and then do the
    program on your own with the help of this newsgroup and the books.

    Ebay also sells the program books from time to time.

    Carol

    --
    ............................................................
    318/239.4/169
    78.6 lost since December 2002 I am a slim person in process.
    .............................................................. "Fludge"
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi. New around these parts and am looking for some advice. My girlfriend


    and

    Quoted message said:

    I

    Quoted message said:

    are both a little overweight, and reckon it's diet related. I've had a


    look

    Quoted message said:

    around and notice that weight watchers seem to do some decent looking cookbooks, according to
    Amazon anyway.

    Can I just pick up a couple of cookbooks and get going, or is there more


    to

    Quoted message said:

    it than that? I didn't want anything too rigid, I just need to lower my calorie intake a bit. I
    know there's a points system with WW, but


    that's

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    about the extent of my knowledge.

    If I outlay some cash for the books will they cover points and stuff so


    that

    Quoted message said:

    I can get off the mark, or is there something else I need to do, or subscribe to, that's going
    to cost me extra, but is essential to getting started?

    Any advice welcome, thanks.


  4. I agree with Carol. Pay the meeting fee and buy everything that you want then. Cheaper then Ebay.

    Sandy

    "Carol in NC" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Welcome.

    The recipe books will tell you the point values, but not the information needed that is pertinent
    to you. (point ranges vary according to weight


    and

    Quoted message said:

    change as you lose. Also exercise isn't calculated in the books, but is


    an

    Quoted message said:

    integral part of the program.

    A lot of the meetings offer free registration. You could attend, and get the info, and then do the
    program on your own with the help of this newsgroup and the books.

    Ebay also sells the program books from time to time.

    Carol

    --
    ............................................................
    318/239.4/169
    78.6 lost since December 2002 I am a slim person in process.
    .............................................................. "Fludge"
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi. New around these parts and am looking for some advice. My girlfriend


    and

    Quoted message said:

    I

    Quoted message said:

    are both a little overweight, and reckon it's diet related. I've had a


    look

    Quoted message said:

    around and notice that weight watchers seem to do some decent looking cookbooks, according to
    Amazon anyway.

    Can I just pick up a couple of cookbooks and get going, or is there more


    to

    Quoted message said:

    it than that? I didn't want anything too rigid, I just need to lower my calorie intake a bit. I
    know there's a points system with WW, but


    that's

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    about the extent of my knowledge.

    If I outlay some cash for the books will they cover points and stuff so


    that

    Quoted message said:

    I can get off the mark, or is there something else I need to do, or subscribe to, that's going
    to cost me extra, but is essential to getting started?

    Any advice welcome, thanks.


  5. I do the program primarily with the help of this newsgroup and information I was able to find
    online. You'll be able to get information/help on what your point range should be, help with eating
    within your points, tips on exercising, moral support, and much, much more.

    I've never been a meeting person, and at the time I decided to do WW I couldn't find anything on the
    Candian site about doing it online. So I came here instead!

    Amberle3

    Fludge said:

    So basically I could run a program using the cook books and the support of this NG but would need a
    meeting to work out and set up exactly what my program should be? Is that the deal? Thanks again.

    "Carol in NC" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Welcome.

    The recipe books will tell you the point values, but not the information needed that is pertinent
    to you. (point ranges vary according to weight


    and

    Quoted message said:

    change as you lose. Also exercise isn't calculated in the books, but is


    an

    Quoted message said:

    integral part of the program.

    A lot of the meetings offer free registration. You could attend, and get the info, and then do
    the program on your own with the help of this newsgroup and the books.

    Ebay also sells the program books from time to time.

    Carol

    --
    ............................................................
    318/239.4/169
    78.6 lost since December 2002 I am a slim person in process.
    .............................................................. "Fludge"
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi. New around these parts and am looking for some advice. My girlfriend


    and

    Quoted message said:

    I

    Quoted message said:

    are both a little overweight, and reckon it's diet related. I've had a


    look

    Quoted message said:

    around and notice that weight watchers seem to do some decent looking cookbooks, according to
    Amazon anyway.

    Can I just pick up a couple of cookbooks and get going, or is there more


    to

    Quoted message said:

    it than that? I didn't want anything too rigid, I just need to lower my calorie intake a bit. I
    know there's a points system with WW, but


    that's

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    about the extent of my knowledge.

    If I outlay some cash for the books will they cover points and stuff so


    that

    Quoted message said:

    I can get off the mark, or is there something else I need to do, or subscribe to, that's going
    to cost me extra, but is essential to getting started?

    Any advice welcome, thanks.



  6. Well, I attend the meetings and got the 12 weeks worth of handouts which explain and emphasize
    different aspects of weightloss.

    I don't know if there is any preface in the books which explains the points system. A big part of
    the program is clearly eating RIGHT and a big part of the is portion control which you might be able
    to exercise on your own but you then do need to know what a NORMAL portion of pasta, potato, rice,
    meat, chicken fish are.

    With coupons, meetings are about $10.00 per week and lots of times they have a free joinup and waive
    the initial signup costs (about $20.00)

    The first meeting does have the handouts on points for weight.

    Good luck.

    WW does work

    Fred
    219.2/157.4/164. (Lifetime) Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

    Fludge said:

    Hi. New around these parts and am looking for some advice. My girlfriend and I are both a little
    overweight, and reckon it's diet related. I've had a look around and notice that weight watchers
    seem to do some decent looking cookbooks, according to Amazon anyway.

    Can I just pick up a couple of cookbooks and get going, or is there more to it than that? I didn't
    want anything too rigid, I just need to lower my calorie intake a bit. I know there's a points
    system with WW, but that's about the extent of my knowledge.

    If I outlay some cash for the books will they cover points and stuff so that I can get off the
    mark, or is there something else I need to do, or subscribe to, that's going to cost me extra, but
    is essential to getting started?

    Any advice welcome, thanks.

  7. Welcome to the group Fudge! Just let me say one thing. I tried the books. Didn't work. It's the plan
    that works. You can do it online and all the tools are there.

    --
    Helen

    Thanks be unto God for His wonderful gift: Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God is the object
    of our faith; the only faith that saves is faith in Him

    <>< ><> www.peagramfamily.com mompeagram.homestead.commompeagram.homestead.com

    [email hidden]

    225/190/145

    "Fludge" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi. New around these parts and am looking for some advice. My girlfriend and


    I

    Quoted message said:

    are both a little overweight, and reckon it's diet related. I've had a


    look

    Quoted message said:

    around and notice that weight watchers seem to do some decent looking cookbooks, according to
    Amazon anyway.

    Can I just pick up a couple of cookbooks and get going, or is there more


    to

    Quoted message said:

    it than that? I didn't want anything too rigid, I just need to lower my calorie intake a bit. I
    know there's a points system with WW, but that's about the extent of my knowledge.

    If I outlay some cash for the books will they cover points and stuff so


    that

    Quoted message said:

    I can get off the mark, or is there something else I need to do, or subscribe to, that's going to
    cost me extra, but is essential to getting started?

    Any advice welcome, thanks.

  8. I did see a book once in barrens and nobel, it had it all in there and
    recipes, it was there around the time fergi was promoting WW, this was a
    three ringed binder sort of thing. It had the whole program in there. Not
    sure if they put one out like that for flex points or not, welcome and good
    luck, Lee
    Fludge <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi. New around these parts and am looking for some advice. My girlfriend and


    I

    Quoted message said:

    are both a little overweight, and reckon it's diet related. I've had a


    look

    Quoted message said:

    around and notice that weight watchers seem to do some decent looking cookbooks, according to
    Amazon anyway.

    Can I just pick up a couple of cookbooks and get going, or is there more


    to

    Quoted message said:

    it than that? I didn't want anything too rigid, I just need to lower my calorie intake a bit. I
    know there's a points system with WW, but that's about the extent of my knowledge.

    If I outlay some cash for the books will they cover points and stuff so


    that

    Quoted message said:

    I can get off the mark, or is there something else I need to do, or subscribe to, that's going to
    cost me extra, but is essential to getting started?

    Any advice welcome, thanks.

  9. If you are not sure how the program works then I would recommend going to a few meetings to get
    the materials for the FlexPoints program. Week #1 explains the whole program. Right now they
    are offering free registration and a 2-week quick start set of menus plus an exercise CD. Offer
    good until
    1/31/04.

    I attended meetings for about 3 months last year and have continued the program on my own. I am
    thinking about going back for a few meetings again so that I have all of the new flexpoint
    materials.

    "Fludge" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi. New around these parts and am looking for some advice. My girlfriend and


    I

    Quoted message said:

    are both a little overweight, and reckon it's diet related. I've had a


    look

    Quoted message said:

    around and notice that weight watchers seem to do some decent looking cookbooks, according to
    Amazon anyway.

    Can I just pick up a couple of cookbooks and get going, or is there more


    to

    Quoted message said:

    it than that? I didn't want anything too rigid, I just need to lower my calorie intake a bit. I
    know there's a points system with WW, but that's about the extent of my knowledge.

    If I outlay some cash for the books will they cover points and stuff so


    that

    Quoted message said:

    I can get off the mark, or is there something else I need to do, or subscribe to, that's going to
    cost me extra, but is essential to getting started?

    Any advice welcome, thanks.

  10. Welcome to the group Fludge. Hopefully some of the links in this official welcome notice will
    assist you.

    Welcome to this great newsgroup where you'll receive lots of support, advice, and encouragement.
    Once a week on Sundays, I post a list of links that newcomers to asdww might find useful. You may
    want to look for that later in the week, or do a backwards search for last Sunday's post.

    In the meantime, here's our FAQ: didian.comasdww our welcome notice:
    geocities.comindex.html

    Frequently seen acronyms on this NG: NSV = Non-Scale Victory WOE = Way of Eating WOL = Way of Life
    (Living) OP = on Points or On Program DH = Dear or Darling Husband
    DS/DD/DGD/etc = Dear or Darling Son, Daughter, Granddaughter, etc WI = Weigh-in

    Amberle3's Challenges:

    HHH - Happy Healthy Holidays Exercise Challenge: angelfire.comhhh.htm

    NYNY - New Year, New You Weight Loss Challenge: angelfire.comnyny.htm

    THTP - Take Heart, Take Part Exercise Challenge: angelfire.comthtp.htm

    RafL - Resolutions are for Losers Weight Loss Challenge:
    angelfire.comrafl.htm

    Other acronyms: wwlissa.com100+acronyms.htm

    Here's a short synopsis of the USA program by Joyce -

    How many points you can eat is only based on your current weight, as you lose weight those points
    allowed will decrease (logic is that your body will need less to operate). At 183 pounds and based
    on the new US flexpoints system, you will have a set point target of 24. In addition to this you are
    allowed 35 flexpoints to be used throughout the week ... as well as any activity points you earn on
    a particular day. When your weight drops to 175, your target drops to 22 points ... weight reaches
    150, target once again drop to 20 points. 3 servings of dairy of recommended per day, 5 servings of
    fruit and veggies, minimum of 6 glasses of water.

    To calculate food and activity points, I love this computer desktop calculator ...
    zythra.compoints.exe

    The basic plan is easy. Eat at least your minimum daily number of points. Points do not carry over
    from day to day. You are allotted 35 weekly flexpoints to be used at your discretion ... can divide
    them up and use daily (would be an additional 5 points per day) or save them and use them for a
    special occassion during the week. Activity points are earned based when exercising, but can ONLY be
    used on the day they are earned.

    If you can afford $15/month, the online ww program might be a great thing for you to look into.
    There is lots of information available, as well as the food point database and journaling system.

    Joyce WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02 current weight: 133.3 Lifetime: 4/4/03

    Please note that if you live in onther coutries (UK, Australia, NZ, Europe), the Points plans are
    different. The UK and Australia/NZ calculate points based on saturated fat and total kilojoules.
    Most of Europe calculates based on total fat and total kilojoules. The desktop calculator above can
    handle all of these programs.

    Disclaimer: As an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup, asdww is unusual in that most of the people who
    participate are respectful, considerate folks who freely share their experience with and knowledge
    of WW, weight loss, and maintenance. Yet occasionally, spammers, trolls, and flamers show up to post
    advertising, false information, insults, and the like. Nearly all of the time, people like this are
    just trying to yank someone's chain. Most of the regulars on this newsgroup offer their experience
    as a suggestion to try if you're stuck, but are quick to advise that each person has to find what
    works for him/herself. If someone posts something that doesn't sound right to you, ask the
    newsgroup, ask your WW leader, or ask your health professional.

    Much success on your weight loss journey! WW works!

    --
    Julie.
    93.5/72.7/74 (WW)/72 (Personal) kg
    93.5/72.7/1.8 (WW)/158 (Personal) lb

    "Fludge" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi. New around these parts and am looking for some advice. My girlfriend and


    I

    Quoted message said:

    are both a little overweight, and reckon it's diet related. I've had a


    look

    Quoted message said:

    around and notice that weight watchers seem to do some decent looking cookbooks, according to
    Amazon anyway.

    Can I just pick up a couple of cookbooks and get going, or is there more


    to

    Quoted message said:

    it than that? I didn't want anything too rigid, I just need to lower my calorie intake a bit. I
    know there's a points system with WW, but that's about the extent of my knowledge.

    If I outlay some cash for the books will they cover points and stuff so


    that

    Quoted message said:

    I can get off the mark, or is there something else I need to do, or subscribe to, that's going to
    cost me extra, but is essential to getting started?

    Any advice welcome, thanks.

  11. You don't *have* to attend meetings to set up your program. All information you need can easily be
    found on the internet, various sites including this newsgroup. If you are the type of person that
    needs the in your face type of approach - such as having someone weighing you each week to keep you
    on track, then the meetings are the way to go. I have not attended one single meeting, but did join
    the ww online program. Others in this group have succeeded totally on their own.

    Joyce

    Fludge said:

    So basically I could run a program using the cook books and the support of this NG but would need a
    meeting to work out and set up exactly what my program should be? Is that the deal? Thanks again.

    "Carol in NC" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Welcome.

    The recipe books will tell you the point values, but not the information needed that is pertinent
    to you. (point ranges vary according to weight


    and

    Quoted message said:

    change as you lose. Also exercise isn't calculated in the books, but is


    an

    Quoted message said:

    integral part of the program.

    A lot of the meetings offer free registration. You could attend, and get the info, and then do
    the program on your own with the help of this newsgroup and the books.

    Ebay also sells the program books from time to time.

    Carol

    --
    ............................................................
    318/239.4/169
    78.6 lost since December 2002 I am a slim person in process.
    .............................................................. "Fludge"
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi. New around these parts and am looking for some advice. My girlfriend


    and

    Quoted message said:

    I

    Quoted message said:

    are both a little overweight, and reckon it's diet related. I've had a


    look

    Quoted message said:

    around and notice that weight watchers seem to do some decent looking cookbooks, according to
    Amazon anyway.

    Can I just pick up a couple of cookbooks and get going, or is there more


    to

    Quoted message said:

    it than that? I didn't want anything too rigid, I just need to lower my calorie intake a bit. I
    know there's a points system with WW, but


    that's

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    about the extent of my knowledge.

    If I outlay some cash for the books will they cover points and stuff so


    that

    Quoted message said:

    I can get off the mark, or is there something else I need to do, or subscribe to, that's going
    to cost me extra, but is essential to getting started?

    Any advice welcome, thanks.



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