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  1. The local supermarket has whole salmons fairly cheap these days, so I'm thinking of buying one.

    The fish are gutted, but they still have skin and head.

    I'm wondering:

    It's way too big for one person, so I'm thinking of freezing some of it, since it's so cheap as
    whole, but should I cut it into steaks/what else it can be cut into before freezing it, or is it
    better to freeze the part, which I don't use immediately, in one piece?

    Can I use the head and tail for anything?

    Any other advice about a whole salmon?
    --
    Nikitta a.a. #1759 Apatriot(No, not apricot)#18 ICQ# 251532856 Unreferenced footnotes: nut.house.cxcgi
    bin/nemwiki.pl?ISFN “Sometimes I think that the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere
    in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us” Calvin (Calvin & Hobbes)

  2. "MEow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    The local supermarket has whole salmons fairly cheap these days, so I'm thinking of buying one.

    The fish are gutted, but they still have skin and head.

    I'm wondering:

    It's way too big for one person, so I'm thinking of freezing some of it, since it's so cheap as
    whole, but should I cut it into steaks/what else it can be cut into before freezing it, or is it
    better to freeze the part, which I don't use immediately, in one piece?

    Can I use the head and tail for anything?

    Any other advice about a whole salmon?
    --


    I don't have experience with a whole salmon, but I usually buy 10 lbs at a time, which comes in
    couple of big pieces. I cut these into fillets of about 1 lb, (there are two of us), and freeze them
    quite successfully. I don't remove the skin until after cooking, when it is easy to do. You could
    make fish stock with the bits and pieces. If you're keen!

  3. "MEow" asks:

    Quoted message said:


    The local supermarket has whole salmons fairly cheap these days, so I'm thinking of buying one.

    The fish are gutted, but they still have skin and head.

    I'm wondering:

    It's way too big for one person, so I'm thinking of freezing some of it, since it's so cheap as
    whole, but should I cut it into steaks/what else it can be cut into before freezing it, or is it
    better to freeze the part, which I don't use immediately, in one piece?

    Can I use the head and tail for anything?

    Any other advice about a whole salmon?

    POACHED SALMON IN ASPIC Active time: 1 3/4 hr Start to finish: 12 hr Before you start this recipe,
    make sure there's room in your refrigerator for a 24-inch fish poacher and a 25-inch platter.

    For salmon 1 (6-lb) whole salmon (with skin), cleaned and backbone removed, head and tail left
    intact 1 teaspoon salt 6 qt cold water
    1/2 cup fresh lemon juice 1 large onion, coarsely chopped 2 carrots, coarsely chopped 2 celery ribs
    with leaves, cut into 4-inch pieces 2 bay leaves (not California) 6 fresh parsley stems (without
    leaves) 2 fresh thyme sprigs
    2/4 teaspoon whole black peppercorns

    For aspic 1 cup dry white wine 2 tablespoons Sercial Madeira 1 fresh thyme sprig 1 teaspoon salt 1
    large leek, white and pale green parts chopped and 2 outer leaves reserved

    For garnish 1 carrot, coarsely chopped 1 celery rib, coarsely chopped 3 large eggs, whites lightly
    beaten and shells crushed (reserve yolks for another use) 1 tablespoon unflavored gelatin (from two
    1/4-oz envelopes)
    3/4 cup cold water

    Accompaniment: green mayonnaise Special equipment: 2 (35-inch-long) pieces of cheesecloth; kitchen
    string; a 24-inch fish poacher*; a long (25-inch) platter

    Poach salmon: Wash salmon inside and out and sprinkle inside with salt. Unfold 1 piece of
    cheesecloth on top of the other to make a double layer, then wrap fish snugly in it and tie ends
    (close to fish) with kitchen string. Place on poacher rack in poacher, then straddle poacher across
    2 burners on stovetop. Add 6 quarts cold water (it should cover fish by 1 inch), lemon juice,
    vegetables, herbs, and peppercorns.

    Bring to a boil, partially covered, over high heat (this will take about 25 minutes; fish will
    register 145°F on an instant-read thermometer inserted into thickest part of fish). Transfer
    poacher to a metal rack and cool fish in broth, uncovered, 30 minutes. Then chill fish in poacher
    (do not pour off broth), uncovered, at least 8 hours.

    Reduce broth for aspic: Lift fish on poacher rack out of broth and drain well, then transfer from
    rack to a large shallow baking pan and chill. Pour broth through a sieve into a large bowl. Transfer
    8 cups broth to a 4-quart heavy pot, reserving remainder for another use. Add white wine, Madeira,
    thyme sprig, and salt and boil until reduced to 5 cups, 30 to 40 minutes. Cool 20 minutes.

    Prepare salmon for glazing: Wash reserved leek leaves and chopped leeks in a bowl of cold water,
    then lift out and drain well. Cut leaves into decorative strips. Blanch strips in a saucepan of
    boiling water 1 minute, then transfer to a bowl of ice and cold water. Drain and pat dry.

    Remove strings from cheesecloth, then open cheesecloth but don't remove it. Remove fatty strip and
    small bones (they look like a comb) from spine of fish from head to tail. Trim off any fat from
    edges of belly. Carefully remove bony section under gills, then remove skin and dark flesh from
    visible side (top) of fish by gently scraping with a small sharp knife. Using the cheesecloth, roll
    fish over onto platter and remove bony section under gills, then remove skin and dark flesh from
    other side of fish. Wipe platter clean, then cover fish with dampened paper towels and chill until
    aspic is ready.

    Clarify broth (using egg whites and shells) and make aspic: Whisk together reduced broth, chopped
    leek, carrot, celery, and egg whites and shells in a 4- to 6-quart heavy pot. Bring to a boil,
    whisking constantly, then reduce heat and cook at a bare simmer, undisturbed, over low heat 30
    minutes. Ladle broth through sieve lined with a double thickness of dampened paper towels set over a
    1-quart glass measure, then press firmly on solids.

    Soften gelatin in cold water in a 1-quart saucepan 1 minute. Add 3 cups broth and simmer, stirring,
    until gelatin is dissolved, about 2 minutes.

    Glaze salmon with aspic: Ladle 2/3 cup aspic into a metal bowl set in a larger bowl of ice and cold
    water. Let stand, stirring occasionally, just until aspic is the consistency of raw egg white.
    Remove bowl from ice water and spoon a thin layer of aspic over fish, then chill fish until aspic is
    set, about 10 minutes. Arrange leek garnish on fish and glaze fish with more aspic. Chill fish,
    uncovered, until ready to serve.

    Pour remaining aspic into a 13- by 9-inch baking dish and chill until firm, about 1 hour. Cut into
    1/2-inch cubes, then arrange cubes around salmon.

    Cooks' notes: • Salmon can be poached and chilled in broth up to 2 days. • Aspic-glazed salmon
    keeps, chilled (uncovered), 1 day.

    Gourmet November 2001

    ---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- Sheldon
    ```````````` "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."

  4. "MEow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The local supermarket has whole salmons fairly cheap these days, so I'm thinking of buying one.

    The fish are gutted, but they still have skin and head.

    I'm wondering:

    It's way too big for one person, so I'm thinking of freezing some of it, since it's so cheap as
    whole, but should I cut it into steaks/what else it can be cut into before freezing it, or is it
    better to freeze the part, which I don't use immediately, in one piece?

    Can I use the head and tail for anything?

    Any other advice about a whole salmon?

    Do you have any experience filleting fish? If so, you can remove the fillets and freeze what you do
    not use. Or if it is big enough you can cut it crossways into steaks and freeze those. But unless
    you have experience handling a whole fish you might want to think twice. Salmon skin is delicious
    broiled but that means you have to scale it. Fish head/tail/bones can be used to make stock but
    salmon is rather strong and I do not think it would make a good stock on its own.

    --
    Peter Aitken

    Remove the [censored] from my email address before using.

  5. MEow said:

    The local supermarket has whole salmons fairly cheap these days, so I'm thinking of buying one.

    The fish are gutted, but they still have skin and head.

    I'm wondering:

    It's way too big for one person, so I'm thinking of freezing some of it, since it's so cheap as
    whole, but should I cut it into steaks/what else it can be cut into before freezing it, or is it
    better to freeze the part, which I don't use immediately, in one piece?

    Can I use the head and tail for anything?

    Any other advice about a whole salmon?

    Just a thought, but we only buy whole salmon. What we do is have it filleted. tell them you want
    head and bones, too. The SBF makes the world's best salmon soup.

    When you get home, freeze the bones and head for use in soup. Then take the two fillets they give
    you and cut them up into sizes appropriate for each meal. Then wrap each fillet in a piece of saran
    wrap, followed by placing one in each of as many as you need, freezer bags.

    When you are hankering for salmon, take out one package, and let it defrost in the fridge.
    --
    Alan

    "If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the religion, and avoid the people, you might bet-
    ter stay home."
    -- James Michener

  6. MEow said:

    The local supermarket has whole salmons fairly cheap these days, so I'm thinking of buying one.

    hmm the books suggest there are no coincidences ...

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  7. While frolicking around in rec.food.cooking said:
    Quoted message said:

    The local supermarket has whole salmons fairly cheap these days, so I'm thinking of buying one.

    hmm the books suggest there are no coincidences ...

    allbookstores.com1400045088


    Correct in this case: the Douglas Adams reference was entirely deliberate. I couldn't resist, though
    I thought that maybe, if I wrote the entirely title, people would think it was about the book and
    ignore the post :0)
    --
    Nikitta a.a. #1759 Apatriot(No, not apricot)#18 ICQ# 251532856 Unreferenced footnotes: nut.house.cxcgi
    bin/nemwiki.pl?ISFN “Sometimes I think that the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere
    in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us” Calvin (Calvin & Hobbes)

  8. While frolicking around in rec.food.cooking, alzelt of AT&T Worldnet

    Quoted message said:

    Just a thought, but we only buy whole salmon. What we do is have it filleted. tell them you want
    head and bones, too. The SBF makes the world's best salmon soup.


    Recipe?

    Quoted message said:

    When you get home, freeze the bones and head for use in soup. Then take the two fillets they give
    you and cut them up into sizes appropriate for each meal. Then wrap each fillet in a piece of saran
    wrap, followed by placing one in each of as many as you need, freezer bags.


    Sounds like a good idea, though I'll probably try to filet it, myself. I expect to be able find a
    description without too many problems.
    --
    Nikitta a.a. #1759 Apatriot(No, not apricot)#18 ICQ# 251532856 Unreferenced footnotes: nut.house.cxcgi
    bin/nemwiki.pl?ISFN “Sometimes I think that the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere
    in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us” Calvin (Calvin & Hobbes)

  9. MEow said:
    While frolicking around in rec.food.cooking said:

    Just a thought, but we only buy whole salmon. What we do is have it filleted. tell them you want
    head and bones, too. The SBF makes the world's best salmon soup.

    Recipe?

    Sorry to bring you bad news, but the SBF is not very good at fessing up to recipes; and if she did,
    they would be in Finnish anyway.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    When you get home, freeze the bones and head for use in soup. Then take the two fillets they give
    you and cut them up into sizes appropriate for each meal. Then wrap each fillet in a piece of
    saran wrap, followed by placing one in each of as many as you need, freezer bags.

    Sounds like a good idea, though I'll probably try to filet it, myself. I expect to be able find a
    description without too many problems.

    First, when you buy the fish, the filleting is done FREE. I have never seen otherwise. Second, while
    it's easy to fillet, many people never seem to get out the pin bone, which later is a pain when
    eating your salmon. So, unless you have a yen to do this task, let the fishmonger do it for you.
    Generally speaking, they will do a better job.

    --
    Alan

    "If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the religion, and avoid the people, you might bet-
    ter stay home."
    -- James Michener

  10. While frolicking around in rec.food.cooking, alzelt of AT&T Worldnet

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Just a thought, but we only buy whole salmon. What we do is have it filleted. tell them you want
    head and bones, too. The SBF makes the world's best salmon soup.

    Recipe?

    Sorry to bring you bad news, but the SBF is not very good at fessing up to recipes; and if she did,
    they would be in Finnish anyway.

    Okay, fairy nuff.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Sounds like a good idea, though I'll probably try to filet it, myself. I expect to be able find a
    description without too many problems.

    First, when you buy the fish, the filleting is done FREE. I have never seen otherwise. Second,
    while it's easy to fillet, many people never seem to get out the pin bone, which later is a pain
    when eating your salmon. So, unless you have a yen to do this task, let the fishmonger do it for
    you. Generally speaking, they will do a better job.

    I'll ask them if they fillet it for free. Thanks to those who have given advice.
    --
    Nikitta a.a. #1759 Apatriot(No, not apricot)#18 ICQ# 251532856 Unreferenced footnotes: nut.house.cxcgi
    bin/nemwiki.pl?ISFN "Endless fun for drunken ex-pats. And more socially acceptable than dwarf-
    tossing." August West (Sheddie)

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