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  1. I'm going to splash out on a dynohub wheel. I want to use it on my
    tourer which will be carrying camping kit. A few questions:

    What's a good rim? 36 hole? Schmidt hubs are the cats whikers? Double butted spokes are the way to
    go for strength?

    TIA, Rich x

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  2. Richard Bates said:

    I'm going to splash out on a dynohub wheel. I want to use it on my tourer which will be carrying
    camping kit. A few questions:

    What's a good rim?

    MA3 or Sun Rhyno Lite ? ?

    Quoted message said:

    36 hole?

    More reliable than 32.

    Quoted message said:

    Schmidt hubs are the cats whikers?

    Pass.

    Quoted message said:

    Double butted spokes are the way to go for strength?

    For fatigue resistance. Triple butted (eg. DT Alpine III) are even better - although probably won't
    be advantagous for a front.

    ~PB

  3. "Pete Biggs" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Richard Bates said:

    I'm going to splash out on a dynohub wheel. I want to use it on my tourer which will be carrying
    camping kit. A few questions:

    What's a good rim?

    MA3 or Sun Rhyno Lite ? ?

    These are quite different rims - the rhyno lite is a heavier stronger one like what people use on
    tandems. The MA3 is a 'lightweight clasic road/audax/light touring rim', which may be a bit light
    for camping touring. If going sun, CR18 is probably a better choice. There must be a suitable mavic
    rim (what are the A319/A719 like?), but I don't know the range. Also alesa (ask spa).

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Schmidt hubs are the cats whikers?

    Pass.

    If you're willing to spend the money then yes. Otherwise the shimano one is pretty good. I still
    don't like the sound of the one reviewed in the recent CTC mag with gears inside.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Double butted spokes are the way to go for strength?

    For fatigue resistance. Triple butted (eg. DT Alpine III) are even better - although probably
    won't be advantagous for a front.

    Probably no point with triple butted.

    cheers, clive

    (we have one shimano NX-10 and 3 SONs now)

  4. Clive George said:

    "Pete Biggs" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    berlin.de...

    Quoted message said:
    Richard Bates said:

    I'm going to splash out on a dynohub wheel. I want to use it on my tourer which will be carrying
    camping kit. A few questions:

    What's a good rim?

    MA3 or Sun Rhyno Lite ? ?

    These are quite different rims - the rhyno lite is a heavier stronger one like what people use on
    tandems. The MA3 is a 'lightweight clasic road/audax/light touring rim', which may be a bit light
    for camping touring. If going sun, CR18 is probably a better choice. There must be a suitable
    mavic rim (what are the A319/A719 like?), but I don't know the range. Also alesa (ask spa).

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Schmidt hubs are the cats whikers?

    Pass.

    If you're willing to spend the money then yes. Otherwise the shimano one is pretty good. I still
    don't like the sound of the one reviewed in the recent CTC mag with gears inside.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Double butted spokes are the way to go for strength?

    For fatigue resistance. Triple butted (eg. DT Alpine III) are even better - although probably
    won't be advantagous for a front.

    Probably no point with triple butted.

    cheers, clive

    (we have one shimano NX-10 and 3 SONs now)

    My tourer has Mavic Module 3 CD rims, they have been across the USA with full camping kit. Sadly
    they don't seem to be available anymore.

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  5. Richard Bates <[email hidden]> wrote:
    : I'm going to splash out on a dynohub wheel. I want to use it on my tourer which will be carrying
    : camping kit. A few questions:

    : 36 hole?

    Yup for loaded touring

    : Schmidt hubs are the cats whikers?

    Indeed, though the Shimano ones are very good and half the price. Their main disadvantage is a
    higher drag when then light is off.

    : Double butted spokes are the way to go for strength?

    Yup

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  6. Arthur Clune said:

    : Schmidt hubs are the cats whikers?

    Indeed, though the Shimano ones are very good and half the price. Their main disadvantage is a
    higher drag when then light is off.

    I thought this was only true for the older NX30 hubs.

    Certainly the current NX70s are very good indeed - but the Schmidt's a classier choice.

    John

  7. Richard Bates said:

    I'm going to splash out on a dynohub wheel. I want to use it on my tourer which will be carrying
    camping kit. A few questions:

    What's a good rim? 36 hole? Schmidt hubs are the cats whikers? Double butted spokes are the way to
    go for strength?

    Personally I'd get one to match the back!

    Anyway 36h should be adequate for the front, Schmidt hubs are the pig's nads and DB spokes are as
    strong as plain gauge ones (spokes almost always break at one end or the other, you see). One
    problem with DB spokes is that they are more elastic, so if one does break the wheel goes further
    out of true than with a PG spoke.

  8. SabineUK said:
    Arthur Clune said:
    Quoted message said:

    Schmidt hubs are the cats whikers?

    Indeed, though the Shimano ones are very good and half the price. Their main disadvantage is a
    higher drag when then light is off.

    I thought this was only true for the older NX30 hubs.

    I thought it was the NX10 schmidt tested. NX30 is a bit better than that.

    cheers, clive

  9. Zog The Undeniable said:


    One problem with DB spokes is that they are more elastic, so if one does break the wheel goes
    further out of true than with a PG spoke.

    DB spokes are more elastic on a small scale (to help reduce metal fatigue) but I don't believe
    there's enough difference* once tensioned to make the wheel go further out of true.

    * with DB spokes with ends of same thickness as the PG. Might be different with PG spokes of a much
    larger gauge.

    ~PB

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