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  1. Why does Dr. Nagler chose eternal death when the Light is free if you will only accept Christ?

    What is more troubling are his words below. I have read him blaming everyone else for the
    disruption of newsgroups. But how sad that he posted such vile comments below. These are the
    words that have caused the deaths of millions of people for their beliefs. He fosters the
    destruction of Christianity through this mockery and hastens our nation's moral decline when he
    speaks these words..

    It pains me for his soul to read that he apparently does not only not believe in Christ as the son
    of God, but mocks those who do for their beliefs and even ridicules them as hose who would believe
    that Elvis was also the son of God. This is a downtrodden and deeply troubled man and we all need to
    pray for his soul as it is apparently quite dark to write these words.

    If you are a believer in Christ, please pray that Dr. Nagler will repent and see the Light. If you
    are a Jew, please pray that Dr. Nagler at least understand that the Christians are the Jews greatest
    friends and alienating them as he has done will not help his cause.

    If he knocks on the door it will open. But if he mocks the Light like this, he will remain in the
    darkness for eternity.

    JB

    From: Stephen Nagler <[email hidden]> Newsgroups: sci.med.cardiology Subject: Re: O/T - Gandhi
    Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 01:30:58 GMT

    MD/PhD said:
    Quoted message said:

    So I guess that means that Mahatma Gandhi - a man who studied and appreciated a variety of
    religions but was a Sanatani Hindu and definitely not a believer in Christ as the Son of God -
    doesn't get his place in Paradise?

    If by Paradise, you mean Heaven, the answer would be "no" according


    to

    Quoted message said:

    God's Word.

    ..................

    By Paradise I do mean Heaven.

    But Gandhi has nothing to worry about. Because Jesus' word is NOT God's word. You just don't get it.
    Jesus was a Jewish man - born Jewish and died Jewish. A man. Nothing more. Nothing less. He is no
    more the Son of God than Elvis is the Son of God. And just because some folk here claim he is and
    jump and scream on this CARDIOLOGY forum insisting he is - does not make it so. Just because John
    and Matthew say he is doesn't make it so. And all the Chung doublespeak here doesn't make it so.

    Word of God? Baloney. No God I know would close the doors to Heaven and block Gandhi's entrance. Now
    He might keep Dr. Chung out of Paradise for putting forth such a ludicrous statement and *claiming*
    that it is the word of God. But that's another story.

    smn

  2. On 16 Jan 2004 01:37:04 -0800, [email hidden] (John

    Brown) said:

    Why does Dr. Nagler chose eternal death when the Light is free if you will only accept Christ?

    His pride is his damning sin.

    Quoted message said:

    What is more troubling are his words below. I have read him blaming everyone else for the
    disruption of newsgroups. But how sad that he posted such vile comments below. These are the
    words that have caused the deaths of millions of people for their beliefs. He fosters the
    destruction of Christianity through this mockery and hastens our nation's moral decline when he
    speaks these words..

    Nagler is a sad individual and many offer prayers for him.

    Quoted message said:

    It pains me for his soul to read that he apparently does not only not believe in Christ as the son
    of God, but mocks those who do for their beliefs and even ridicules them as those who would believe
    that Elvis was also the son of God. This is a downtrodden and deeply troubled man and we all need
    to pray for his soul as it is apparently quite dark to write these words.

    It is in Dr. Nagler's power to take back control of his life, from his personal tragedies, that he
    uses as his excuse to deflect prayer and to keep Christ out of his heart.

    Quoted message said:

    If you are a believer in Christ, please pray that Dr. Nagler will repent and see the Light. If you
    are a Jew, please pray that Dr. Nagler at least understand that the Christians are the Jews
    greatest friends and alienating them as he has done will not help his cause.

    Nicely said.

    Quoted message said:

    If he knocks on the door it will open. But if he mocks the Light like this, he will remain in the
    darkness for eternity.

    JB

    I know many "Dr. Naglers" and , sadly, they rarely come to the Light.

    Quoted message said:

    From: Stephen Nagler <[email hidden]> Newsgroups: sci.med.cardiology Subject: Re: O/T - Gandhi
    Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 01:30:58 GMT

    MD/PhD said:
    Quoted message said:

    So I guess that means that Mahatma Gandhi - a man who studied and appreciated a variety of
    religions but was a Sanatani Hindu and definitely not a believer in Christ as the Son of God -
    doesn't get his place in Paradise?

    If by Paradise, you mean Heaven, the answer would be "no" according


    to

    Quoted message said:

    God's Word.

    ..................

    By Paradise I do mean Heaven.

    But Gandhi has nothing to worry about. Because Jesus' word is NOT God's word. You just don't get
    it. Jesus was a Jewish man - born Jewish and died Jewish. A man. Nothing more. Nothing less. He
    is no more the Son of God than Elvis is the Son of God. And just because some folk here claim he
    is and jump and scream on this CARDIOLOGY forum insisting he is - does not make it so. Just
    because John and Matthew say he is doesn't make it so. And all the Chung doublespeak here doesn't
    make it so.

    Word of God? Baloney. No God I know would close the doors to Heaven and block Gandhi's entrance.
    Now He might keep Dr. Chung out of Paradise for putting forth such a ludicrous statement and
    *claiming* that it is the word of God. But that's another story.

    smn

    antwrp.gsfc.nasa.govap040114.html Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

  3. John Brown said:

    Why does Dr. Nagler chose eternal death when the Light is free if you will only accept Christ?

    My guess is that Satan resides in his heart.

    It remains my hope that God will drive Satan out.

    Humbly,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

  4. John Brown said:

    Why does Dr. Nagler chose eternal death when the Light is free if you will only accept Christ?

    Oh look. It's another flavor of "John."

    Why do you feel it necessary to concern yourself with anyone else's religious BELIEF? Oh, wait.
    That's not what it's about. It's about scoring more points for the Chung-Mu_gly side of their war
    against reason and fact. You're merely another M_anifestation of their desire to hurt people. You're
    just another picture of a fraud like your named heroes. John Brown, you say? The famous one was
    nuts, too.

    Quoted message said:

    What is more troubling are his words below. I have read him blaming everyone else for the
    disruption of newsgroups. But how sad that he posted such vile comments below. These are the
    words that have caused the deaths of millions of people for their beliefs. He fosters the
    destruction of Christianity through this mockery and hastens our nation's moral decline when he
    speaks these words..

    <LOL> What a [censored] you are, "John." What has caused the deaths of millions of people is other
    millions of people killing in the name of their Gods. In order for any of it to stick, the words
    have to have some connection to the truth, no matter how tenuous. Your thin [censored] wouldn't even
    feed a rosebush. Besides not knowing American history, you're a lousy propagandist.

    "...our nation's moral decline" is apparently a big issue with "John." Setting up an "us versus
    them" situation doesn't seem to penetrate that dense vision as destructive. Blowing away Jesus'
    injunction to love others as we love ourselves is OK for "John." Fine example.

    Idiot.

    If Christianity can't survive words in a newsgroup, then Jesus' life was a mockery. Take my word for
    it "John," both Jesus and Christianity will survive the fanatical M_adness you and Chung and
    M_alicious peddle. The essential truths Jesus taught will survive your ugly distortions and your
    efforts to M_uzzle others.

    Quoted message said:

    It pains me for his soul to read that he apparently does not only not believe in Christ as the son
    of God, but mocks those who do for their beliefs and even ridicules them as hose who would believe
    that Elvis was also the son of God. This is a downtrodden and deeply troubled man and we all need
    to pray for his soul as it is apparently quite dark to write these words.

    You ignorant fraud. He dismisses those who scurrilously pretend to be Christians while acting like
    the M_oney-changers on the temple steps. You are all three pollution in the true halls of
    Christianity. You deserve scorn for your shallow understanding of what Jesus taught. You deserve
    scorn for your lazy, effortless "faith." You deserve scorn for your arrogant belief in your
    superiority.

    Quoted message said:

    If you are a believer in Christ, please pray that Dr. Nagler will repent and see the Light.

    Repentance and seeing "the Light" [capital letter, doncha know] are different things to anyone who
    understands English. Right Chung?

    Idiot.

    Quoted message said:

    If you are a Jew, please pray that Dr. Nagler at least understand that the Christians are the Jews
    greatest friends and alienating them as he has done will not help his cause.

    Right. Christians have shows great sympathy for Jews over the years. Historical ignoramus.
    Alienating *fake* Christians is a good thing to do. If everyone who is rational decides that you're
    the vomit of demons like you act, that's good. If everyone is alienated by your sanctimonious
    fakery, that's good. If everyone is alienated by your transparent desire for bad things to befall
    Stephen, that's good, too.

    Quoted message said:

    If he knocks on the door it will open. But if he mocks the Light like this, he will remain in the
    darkness for eternity.

    Just like all fundamentalist wackos, speaking for God. What holy [censored] you all peddle. What a
    wonderful demonstration of Christian love. Fakery abounds. Ignorance and malice triumph if your
    words are permitted to go unanswered, "John."

    Pastorio

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