O/T - Forgiveness

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 16:17:58 GMT, Stephen Nagler <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Would anybody like to comment on the differences between the Christian concept of forgiveness (for
one's sins) and the Jewish concept?

Let me first point out that you, Stephen, who constantly whines, bleats and complains about
religious discussions in newsgroups, initiated this thread.

<rolling eyes>

I'll take the Christian side.

This is simple. When you accept Christ and He represents yo to His Father, you are saved from sin
and it's consequences.

Your turn.

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On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 12:29:14 -0500, SunNoM_un <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Let me first point out that you, Stephen, who constantly whines, bleats and complains about
religious discussions in newsgroups, initiated this thread.

..................

What is it about the letters "O" and "T" in the subject line that escape you? They indicate an "Off-
Topic" post so that those who do not wish to read about a non-cardiology issue do not need to bother
clicking. It's a courtesy, [censored]

.................

Quoted message said:

<rolling eyes>

................

<rolling eyes>

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Quoted message said:

I'll take the Christian side.

................

Figured you would. :-)

.....................

Quoted message said:

This is simple. When you accept Christ and He represents yo to His Father, you are saved from sin
and it's consequences.

Your turn.

.......................

OK. The Jewish side is not so simple.

In Judaism there are two kinds of sin - a sin against God and a sin against Man. For a sin against
God, only God can forgive you. You demonstrate your desire for forgiveness from the Almighty through
sincere prayer, through sincere repentance, and through charitable acts (all three are needed) - and
your sin against God is forgiven.

A sin against Man is another story. As I understand it, in Christianity a serial rapist and thief
can obtain absolution for all his sins by accepting Christ with all his heart. In Judaism, one who
sins against Man must obtain forgiveness from the person he or she sinned against before he or she
can - through prayer, repentence, and acts of charity - be forgiven by God.

Judgement Day? God has a sort of scale whereupon He weighs one's good acts against one's bad acts.
You don't have to be "perfect" to get into Heaven, but you must be sincere - AND the good must
outweight the bad. I suggest that serial rape and theft is a very very heavy "bad."

But the idea that if Adolf [censored] sincerely accepted Christ while in his bunker, then [censored]'s sins
against mankind would be absolved, and he would wind up in Heaven - now *that* I find just plain
ludicrous. Just as ludicrous as Dr. Chung's assertion that Gandhi could not gain entrance to heaven
*unless* Gandhi sincerely accepted Christ.

smn

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 19:36:51 GMT, Stephen Nagler <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

What is it about the letters "O" and "T" in the subject line that escape you? They indicate an "Off-
Topic" post so that those who do not wish to read about a non-cardiology issue do not need to
bother clicking. It's a courtesy, [censored]

Let me first point out that you, Stephen, who constantly whines, bleats and complains about
religious discussions in newsgroups, initiated this thread about religious matters.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

This is simple. When you accept Christ and He represents yo to His Father, you are saved from sin
and it's consequences.

Your turn.

.......................

OK. The Jewish side is not so simple.

In Judaism there are two kinds of sin - a sin against God and a sin against Man. For a sin against
God, only God can forgive you. You demonstrate your desire for forgiveness from the Almighty
through sincere prayer, through sincere repentance, and through charitable acts (all three are
needed) - and your sin against God is forgiven.

A sin against Man is another story. As I understand it, in Christianity a serial rapist and thief
can obtain absolution for all his sins by accepting Christ with all his heart.

No sin is neither too big nor too small for Christ's forgiveness.

Quoted message said:

In Judaism, one who sins against Man must obtain forgiveness from the person he or she sinned
against before he or she can - through prayer, repentence, and acts of charity - be forgiven
by God.

What if Man, using his logic you so rely on, decides never to forgive you?

Quoted message said:

Judgement Day? God has a sort of scale whereupon He weighs one's good acts against one's bad acts.
You don't have to be "perfect" to get into Heaven, but you must be sincere - AND the good must
outweight the bad. I suggest that serial rape and theft is a very very heavy "bad."

How do you know? Is there a table to look up the point values.

<lessee, i killed Mom; 8 points negative, I hugged a homeless, 1 point
positive>

How do you track this? It sounds like a diet where you keep up ad infinitum (and no one does) with
cals and carbs and whatever else? At least you have nutrition tables and cal/carb guides.

Do you keep a spreadsheet or do you simply "wing it"?

Quoted message said:

But the idea that if Adolf [censored] sincerely accepted Christ while in his bunker, then [censored]'s sins
against mankind would be absolved, and he would wind up in Heaven - now *that* I find just plain
ludicrous.

I'm sure you do but I am also sure that the Nagler Table Of Logic Regarding Sin and Scales Of
Justice has this al worked out.

Quoted message said:

Just as ludicrous as Dr. Chung's assertion that Gandhi could not gain entrance to heaven *unless*
Gandhi sincerely accepted Christ.

Christ's Law, no assertion.

What a bunch of [censored]. Scales, tables, (il)logical sin values, unknown until death,...

Thank you Jesus for getting rid of all this junk and allowing me to be certain of my salvation.

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Panoramic Mu_n said:

No sin is neither too big nor too small for Christ's forgiveness.

...............

You are free to believe that. But it is a "belief" - please do not post it as if it were fact.

....................

Quoted message said:

What if Man, using his logic you so rely on, decides never to forgive you?

..................

First of all, this is an issue of faith. What one believes. But if Man decides not to forgive,
then you are not forgiven. According to the Jewish FAITH, God does not demand an "unblemished
record" to get into Heaven. The decision is made on a case by case basis. God is omnipotent - He's
got the time.

.................

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Judgement Day? God has a sort of scale whereupon He weighs one's good acts against one's bad acts.
You don't have to be "perfect" to get into Heaven, but you must be sincere - AND the good must
outweight the bad. I suggest that serial rape and theft is a very very heavy "bad."

How do you know? Is there a table to look up the point values.

..................

Actually, Mu, it's an important question. Of course one doesn't "know." You don't have access to a
"table." But as a Jew you are supposed to assume that the scale is tilted against you - and that
every good deed you do, every act of loving kindness, helps to shift the balance in your favor.

..............

Quoted message said:

How do you track this?

...............

Like I said above, you don't track it.

smn

Panoramic Mu_n said:

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 19:36:51 GMT, Stephen Nagler <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

OK. The Jewish side is not so simple.

In Judaism there are two kinds of sin - a sin against God and a sin against Man. For a sin against
God, only God can forgive you. You demonstrate your desire for forgiveness from the Almighty
through sincere prayer, through sincere repentance, and through charitable acts (all three are
needed) - and your sin against God is forgiven.

A sin against Man is another story. As I understand it, in Christianity a serial rapist and thief
can obtain absolution for all his sins by accepting Christ with all his heart.

It is all the same - SIN - and if left unforgiven will keep you separated from God. In fact, many
Christians define sin as being separation from God.

Quoted message said:

No sin is neither too big nor too small for Christ's forgiveness.

Yep.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

In Judaism, one who sins against Man must obtain forgiveness from the person he or she sinned
against before he or she can - through prayer, repentence, and acts of charity - be forgiven
by God.

What if Man, using his logic you so rely on, decides never to forgive you?

So it is not just between you and God? People can say to you, "Go to Hell" and make it stick? Lots
of people, especially non-Christians, have trouble ever forgiving anything done to them. So tough
luck if you don't have Jesus, I guess.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Judgement Day? God has a sort of scale whereupon He weighs one's good acts against one's bad acts.
You don't have to be "perfect" to get into Heaven, but you must be sincere - AND the good must
outweight the bad. I suggest that serial rape and theft is a very very heavy "bad."

How do you know? Is there a table to look up the point values.

<lessee, i killed Mom; 8 points negative, I hugged a homeless, 1 point
positive>

How do you track this? It sounds like a diet where you keep up ad infinitum (and no one does) with
cals and carbs and whatever else? At least you have nutrition tables and cal/carb guides.

Do you keep a spreadsheet or do you simply "wing it"?

The Pharisees have been trying to work all this out for millenia. Formulas for this and that.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

But the idea that if Adolf [censored] sincerely accepted Christ while in his bunker, then [censored]'s
sins against mankind would be absolved, and he would wind up in Heaven - now *that* I find just
plain ludicrous.

I'm sure you do but I am also sure that the Nagler Table Of Logic Regarding Sin and Scales Of
Justice has this al worked out.

I don't think you have to have to worry about Adolf. If he did become a Christian at the next to
last minute, at the last minute he committed another murder - his own with a bullet to the brain -
no chance to confess and repent this one. Maybe if he'd just used poison he'd have had time to
confess and repent - but tough luck - he shot himself.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Just as ludicrous as Dr. Chung's assertion that Gandhi could not gain entrance to heaven *unless*
Gandhi sincerely accepted Christ.

I wonder what Gandhi's soul would have thought about finding itself in Christian heaven, after
living a life fully expecting to be reincarnated. He'd have been running screaming down the hall
away from the Golden Gates toward the gates of Hell.

There are two big problems with death bed conversions. One is that on reaching heaven, you might not
recognize it and make yet another wrong choice (after a life time of wrong choices). The other is
that you deprive yourself of having lived some or all of your life knowing that you are in a state
of Grace. So don't wait. Do it now. Hey, it really might be your last chance.

Quoted message said:

Thank you Jesus for getting rid of all this junk and allowing me to be certain of my salvation.

Yes, thank you Jesus for ALL you've done for us all.

What about the concept of Grace - is that found in Judaism? Any other religion? I'm not aware of any
such. I'm speaking of God's granting of undeserved favor, unconditional love and forgiveness to
those who have been saved by Jesus.

Steven, don't forget that you don't have to stop being Jewish to become a Christian. St.
John was both.

John (not the saint, but aspiring)

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 21:03:12 GMT, Stephen Nagler <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

No sin is neither too big nor too small for Christ's forgiveness.

...............

You are free to believe that. But it is a "belief" - please do not post it as if it were fact.

It is a fact.

Quoted message said:

....................

Quoted message said:

What if Man, using his logic you so rely on, decides never to forgive you?

..................

First of all, this is an issue of faith. What one believes. But if Man decides not to forgive, then
you are not forgiven.

Sorry, not interested in any religion that, by one slip from my imperfect self, I could be damned by
Man from God.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Judgement Day? God has a sort of scale whereupon He weighs one's good acts against one's
bad acts.

How do you know? Is there a table to look up the point values.

..................

Actually, Mu, it's an important question. Of course one doesn't "know." You don't have access to a
"table." But as a Jew you are supposed to assume that the scale is tilted against you - and that
every good deed you do, every act of loving kindness, helps to shift the balance in your favor.

How awful it must be to be Jewish under those terms and conditions. ..............

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

How do you track this?

...............

Like I said above, you don't track it.

Then you can have Judaism.

Btw, I received a very informative email regarding the truth behind your intolerance for prayer in
your personal life and it explains many things. It has included verifiable statements and references
form and by you and emails where you have discussed this.

Would you like to talk about this?

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John said:

Steven, don't forget that you don't have to stop being Jewish to become a Christian. St. John
was both.

So was Christ, the First Christian.

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John said:

Panoramic Mu_n said:

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 19:36:51 GMT, Stephen Nagler <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

OK. The Jewish side is not so simple.

In Judaism there are two kinds of sin - a sin against God and a sin against Man. For a sin
against God, only God can forgive you. You demonstrate your desire for forgiveness from the
Almighty through sincere prayer, through sincere repentance, and through charitable acts (all
three are needed) - and your sin against God is forgiven.

A sin against Man is another story. As I understand it, in Christianity a serial rapist and
thief can obtain absolution for all his sins by accepting Christ with all his heart.

It is all the same - SIN - and if left unforgiven will keep you separated from God. In fact, many
Christians define sin as being separation from God.

Quoted message said:

No sin is neither too big nor too small for Christ's forgiveness.

Yep.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

In Judaism, one who sins against Man must obtain forgiveness from the person he or she sinned
against before he or she can - through prayer, repentence, and acts of charity - be forgiven
by God.

What if Man, using his logic you so rely on, decides never to forgive you?

So it is not just between you and God? People can say to you, "Go to Hell" and make it stick? Lots
of people, especially non-Christians, have trouble ever forgiving anything done to them. So tough
luck if you don't have Jesus, I guess.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Judgement Day? God has a sort of scale whereupon He weighs one's good acts against one's bad
acts. You don't have to be "perfect" to get into Heaven, but you must be sincere - AND the good
must outweight the bad. I suggest that serial rape and theft is a very very heavy "bad."

How do you know? Is there a table to look up the point values.

<lessee, i killed Mom; 8 points negative, I hugged a homeless, 1 point
positive>

How do you track this? It sounds like a diet where you keep up ad infinitum (and no one does)
with cals and carbs and whatever else? At least you have nutrition tables and cal/carb guides.

Do you keep a spreadsheet or do you simply "wing it"?

The Pharisees have been trying to work all this out for millenia. Formulas for this and that.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

But the idea that if Adolf [censored] sincerely accepted Christ while in his bunker, then [censored]'s
sins against mankind would be absolved, and he would wind up in Heaven - now *that* I find just
plain ludicrous.

I'm sure you do but I am also sure that the Nagler Table Of Logic Regarding Sin and Scales Of
Justice has this al worked out.

I don't think you have to have to worry about Adolf. If he did become a Christian at the next to
last minute, at the last minute he committed another murder - his own with a bullet to the brain -
no chance to confess and repent this one. Maybe if he'd just used poison he'd have had time to
confess and repent - but tough luck - he shot himself.

Excellent point, John.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Just as ludicrous as Dr. Chung's assertion that Gandhi could not gain entrance to heaven
*unless* Gandhi sincerely accepted Christ.

I wonder what Gandhi's soul would have thought about finding itself in Christian heaven, after
living a life fully expecting to be reincarnated. He'd have been running screaming down the hall
away from the Golden Gates toward the gates of Hell.

There are two big problems with death bed conversions. One is that on reaching heaven, you might
not recognize it and make yet another wrong choice (after a life time of wrong choices). The other
is that you deprive yourself of having lived some or all of your life knowing that you are in a
state of Grace. So don't wait. Do it now. Hey, it really might be your last chance.

Well written.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Thank you Jesus for getting rid of all this junk and allowing me to be certain of my salvation.

Yes, thank you Jesus for ALL you've done for us all.

What about the concept of Grace - is that found in Judaism? Any other religion? I'm not aware of
any such. I'm speaking of God's granting of undeserved favor, unconditional love and forgiveness
to those who have been saved by Jesus.

Steven, don't forget that you don't have to stop being Jewish to become a Christian. St. John
was both.

Yes, St. John was.

Quoted message said:

John (not the saint, but aspiring)

Your composure glorifies God, brother.

Humbly,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
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Panoramic Mu_n said:

Btw, I received a very informative email regarding the truth behind your intolerance for prayer in
your personal life and it explains many things. It has included verifiable statements and
references form and by you and emails where you have discussed this.

Would you like to talk about this?

................

Depends who the e-mail is from -- unless you are prepared to believe everything you read on
the Internet.

And I refuse to discuss these "verifiable statements and references" with you unless you give this
newsgroup your verifiable real name and that of the person who e-mailed you.

smn

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:27:19 GMT, Stephen Nagler <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Btw, I received a very informative email regarding the truth behind your intolerance for prayer in
your personal life and it explains many things. It has included verifiable statements and
references form and by you and emails where you have discussed this.

Would you like to talk about this?

................

Depends who the e-mail is from -- unless you are prepared to believe everything you read on the
Internet.

You should know who it is from, Stephen but whether or not he/she is on your approved list, I am
giving you the courtesy to state your case first without having to answer my posts.

Quoted message said:

And I refuse to discuss these "verifiable statements and references" with you unless you give this
newsgroup your verifiable real name and that of the person who e-mailed you.

As you wish.

I am giving you the courtesy that you did not give Chung or I when you were duped by the clown
Mattilda into believing Mu=chung.

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Quoted message said:

O/T -

Would anybody like to comment on the differences between the Christian concept of forgiveness (for
one's sins) and the Jewish concept?

smn

[censored] was raised by his mother...a Jew

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Quoted message said:

Panoramic Mu_n said:

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 19:36:51 GMT, Stephen Nagler <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

OK. The Jewish side is not so simple.

In Judaism there are two kinds of sin - a sin against God and a sin against Man. For a sin
against God, only God can forgive you. You demonstrate your desire for forgiveness from the
Almighty through sincere prayer, through sincere repentance, and through charitable acts (all
three are needed) - and your sin against God is forgiven.

A sin against Man is another story. As I understand it, in Christianity a serial rapist and
thief can obtain absolution for all his sins by accepting Christ with all his heart.

It is all the same - SIN - and if left unforgiven will keep you separated from God. In fact, many
Christians define sin as being separation from God.

Quoted message said:

No sin is neither too big nor too small for Christ's forgiveness.

Yep.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

In Judaism, one who sins against Man must obtain forgiveness from the person he or she sinned
against before he or she can - through prayer, repentence, and acts of charity - be forgiven
by God.

What if Man, using his logic you so rely on, decides never to forgive you?

So it is not just between you and God? People can say to you, "Go to Hell" and make it stick? Lots
of people, especially non-Christians, have trouble ever forgiving anything done to them. So tough
luck if you don't have Jesus, I guess.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Judgement Day? God has a sort of scale whereupon He weighs one's good acts against one's bad
acts. You don't have to be "perfect" to get into Heaven, but you must be sincere - AND the good
must outweight the bad. I suggest that serial rape and theft is a very very heavy "bad."

How do you know? Is there a table to look up the point values.

<lessee, i killed Mom; 8 points negative, I hugged a homeless, 1 point
positive>

How do you track this? It sounds like a diet where you keep up ad infinitum (and no one does)
with cals and carbs and whatever else? At least you have nutrition tables and cal/carb guides.

Do you keep a spreadsheet or do you simply "wing it"?

The Pharisees have been trying to work all this out for millenia. Formulas for this and that.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

But the idea that if Adolf [censored] sincerely accepted Christ while in his bunker, then [censored]'s
sins against mankind would be absolved, and he would wind up in Heaven - now *that* I find just
plain ludicrous.

I'm sure you do but I am also sure that the Nagler Table Of Logic Regarding Sin and Scales Of
Justice has this al worked out.

I don't think you have to have to worry about Adolf. If he did become a Christian at the next to
last minute, at the last minute he committed another murder - his own with a bullet to the brain -
no chance to confess and repent this one. Maybe if he'd just used poison he'd have had time to
confess and repent - but tough luck - he shot himself.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Just as ludicrous as Dr. Chung's assertion that Gandhi could not gain entrance to heaven
*unless* Gandhi sincerely accepted Christ.

I wonder what Gandhi's soul would have thought about finding itself in Christian heaven, after
living a life fully expecting to be reincarnated. He'd have been running screaming down the hall
away from the Golden Gates toward the gates of Hell.

There are two big problems with death bed conversions. One is that on reaching heaven, you might
not recognize it and make yet another wrong choice (after a life time of wrong choices). The other
is that you deprive yourself of having lived some or all of your life knowing that you are in a
state of Grace. So don't wait. Do it now. Hey, it really might be your last chance.

Quoted message said:

Thank you Jesus for getting rid of all this junk and allowing me to be certain of my salvation.

Yes, thank you Jesus for ALL you've done for us all.

What about the concept of Grace - is that found in Judaism? Any other religion? I'm not aware of
any such. I'm speaking of God's granting of undeserved favor, unconditional love and forgiveness
to those who have been saved by Jesus.

Steven, don't forget that you don't have to stop being Jewish to become a Christian. St. John
was both.

John (not the saint, but aspiring)

Ear Rings said:

Don't feed the troll people! He lives to see his name in the big book!

So we have discerned, Ear Rings.

Humbly,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
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Dr. Andrew B. Chung said:

Ear Rings said:

Don't feed the troll people! He lives to see his name in the big book!

So we have discerned, Ear Rings.

Hey ear. May I call you ear? When you post those nasty but contentless posts, you're crowding Chung.
He's the master of this newsgroup and what he says goes. I trust you've noticed that he's addressed
you more than once about your posting here.

You might want to clam up before he gets irritated with you and starts preaching at you and
telling you that you look like Satan and that you're definitely going to hell and that you're
gonna die soon.

Word to the wise...

Pastorio

I am going to die soon but I have accepted Jesus Christ into my heart and I am not afraid.

"Bob Pastorio" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Dr. Andrew B. Chung said:

Ear Rings said:

Don't feed the troll people! He lives to see his name in the big book!

So we have discerned, Ear Rings.

Hey ear. May I call you ear? When you post those nasty but contentless posts, you're crowding
Chung. He's the master of this newsgroup and what he says goes. I trust you've noticed that he's
addressed you more than once about your posting here.

You might want to clam up before he gets irritated with you and starts preaching at you and
telling you that you look like Satan and that you're definitely going to hell and that you're
gonna die soon.

Word to the wise...

Pastorio

Ear Rings said:

I am going to die soon but I have accepted Jesus Christ into my heart and I am not afraid.

Do you have no sense of the silly and absurd at all?

Pastorio

Quoted message said:

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Quoted message said:

Dr. Andrew B. Chung said:

Ear Rings wrote:

>Don't feed the troll people! He lives to see his name in the big book!

So we have discerned, Ear Rings.

Hey ear. May I call you ear? When you post those nasty but contentless posts, you're crowding
Chung. He's the master of this newsgroup and what he says goes. I trust you've noticed that he's
addressed you more than once about your posting here.

You might want to clam up before he gets irritated with you and starts preaching at you and
telling you that you look like Satan and that you're definitely going to hell and that you're
gonna die soon.

Word to the wise...

Pastorio

Ear Rings said:

I am going to die soon but I have accepted Jesus Christ into my heart and I am not afraid.

See you there.

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Ear Rings said:

I am going to die soon

What is the matter with your body/health ?

Quoted message said:

but I have accepted Jesus Christ into my heart and I am not afraid.

Then you will have life eternal for God promises this.

May God continue to bless you and yours, in Christ's name.

Humbly,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.comOpen ↗

I don't believe my faith in Jesus or dying is silly or absurd at all.

What is your point please?

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Quoted message said:

Ear Rings said:

I am going to die soon but I have accepted Jesus Christ into my heart

and I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

am not afraid.

Do you have no sense of the silly and absurd at all?

Pastorio

Quoted message said:

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Quoted message said:

Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

>Ear Rings wrote:
>
>>Don't feed the troll people! He lives to see his name in the big book!
>
>So we have discerned, Ear Rings.

Hey ear. May I call you ear? When you post those nasty but contentless posts, you're crowding
Chung. He's the master of this newsgroup and what he says goes. I trust you've noticed that he's
addressed you more than once about your posting here.

You might want to clam up before he gets irritated with you and starts preaching at you and
telling you that you look like Satan and that you're definitely going to hell and that you're
gonna die soon.

Word to the wise...

Pastorio