Just diagnosed

Welcome to the club no one wanted to join.

I suspect your ham sandwich had too much bread. Your chips and chick/ mush pie was probably a higher
fat meal and thus peaked later and stayed high.

Until your bg get lower and you find the meals that keep your bg in the best range, the foot pain
problem will certainly persist. (some try for under 10 1 hour after meals, and all should aim to be
back below 7 at 2 hours post meal.) Since the problem may be due to neuropathy, it may not be
reversible; however if you were diagnosed early, often maintaining normal bg levels make the
symptoms less problematic.

Cindy Wells (note well that diet and exercise assist in diabetes control but do not rule out any
medication choices (including insulin) if that will give you the best chance of altering what your
body has decided is the normal bg. (you may feel odd at normal bg levels for a bit until your body
readjusts.) You mention your age but not your weight. If you are not overweight, there is a chance
you are type 1 and will need insulin.)

"Chris Tattersall" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Hey all.

Just this week I have been diagnosed with diabetes. I have still to get more tests at the hospital
this week. I still don't

know

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much about all this yet. I saw the nurse today at my surgery where she tried to explain how things
work etc and told me to buy a meter, which I did this afternoon. Being I have a new gadget I have
been taking some tests throughout the day. I'm

not

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sure what they mean except the reading for a normal person shoud be 5-7. All this began when I
started to get some numbness in one of my feet,

which

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after a week didnt go away so I went to the A&E to get it checked out. The doctor could not find
anything other than high blood sugar levels of
18.8mmol/L. Now three weeks later my foot is still bloody numb. Havent been able to sleep for
about five nights. Anyway Here are the results from today. If you can make anything of them.

Had a small ham sandwich at 15:15 Blood test at 17:20--------17.9mmol/L No food Blood test at 21:34--------
5.2mmol/L Had bag o chips and chick/mush pie from chippy at 21:45 Blood test at 22:14--------
9.0mmol/L No food Blood test at 1:22am---------14.9mmol/L No food Blood test at 3:00am---------
15.0mmol/L

Just found this newsgroup and thought I post. In for another long night.

I presume you are not in the USA based on the way your readings are stated. And I don't know what an
A & E is. But it does sound to me like you have Neuropathy (nerve damage) caused by high BG (blood
glucose). I have this and this is what first brought me to the Dr. It won't get any better unless
you get your BG down. I find that any time my BG goes much beyond 150 ( that's about 8.3 in your
numbers), I have pain, numbness or simply loss of sensation.

The foods you are eating are not the best things for diabetics to eat. Carbs raise our BG. What
foods are high in carbs? Bread, pasta, cereal, rice, potatoes, dried beans, peas, corn, sweets,
fruit, fruit juices, flour, and other things. Eat too many carbs at one time and you'll suffer.

Are you on any sort of medication? If not, you probably need to be at least for the time being. But
you also need to watch your food intake too, decreasing the amount of carbs eaten and increasing
the amount of non-starchy vegetables. You also want to space your meals out to be about 4-5 hours
apart and probably eat a snack before bed that contains carbs, and protein. This will help to keep
your BG more stable. Going without food for too long can cause the liver to dump glucose, leading
to higher BG.

It's good that you are testing, but your tests seem to come at somewhat random times. The best times
to test are upon waking, and two hours after eating. Some people also test at one hour after eating
and before bed. You should also test any time you don't feel well or before exercise or driving if
you are prone to hypos (low BG).
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Hi Cindy, Thanks for the reply.

I am 5'8" tall and weigh a little over 13 stone which is about 185 US lbs. Maybe I could lose a bit
of weight.

"Cindy Wells" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Welcome to the club no one wanted to join.

I suspect your ham sandwich had too much bread. Your chips and chick/ mush pie was probably a
higher fat meal and thus peaked later and stayed high.

Until your bg get lower and you find the meals that keep your bg in the best range, the foot pain
problem will certainly persist. (some try for under 10 1 hour after meals, and all should aim to
be back below 7 at 2 hours post meal.) Since the problem may be due to neuropathy, it may not be
reversible; however if you were diagnosed early, often maintaining normal bg levels make the
symptoms less problematic.

Cindy Wells (note well that diet and exercise assist in diabetes control but do not rule out any
medication choices (including insulin) if that will give you the best chance of altering what your
body has decided is the normal bg. (you may feel odd at normal bg levels for a bit until your body
readjusts.) You mention your age but not your weight. If you are not overweight, there is a chance
you are type 1 and will need insulin.)

Hi, Thanks for the reply.

I am in the UK and A&E is what you may call the ER. Stands for "Accident & Emergency" over here. I
have not yet been told about what foods I can or can't eat. The earliest time I can see the
dietition is in the middle of Feb NEXT year!!!. Although I'm sure the will be able to sort something
out. Shame I don't have private medical insurance. No medication yet, not until I can see a
specialist doctor. Thanks for all the info.

Chris.

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"Chris Tattersall" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:YShsb.1212$dq.214@news-
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Quoted message said:

Hey all.

Just this week I have been diagnosed with diabetes. I have still to get more tests at the
hospital this week. I still don't

know

Quoted message said:

much about all this yet. I saw the nurse today at my surgery where she tried to explain how

things

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

work etc and told me to buy a meter, which I did this afternoon. Being I have a new gadget I
have been taking some tests throughout the day. I'm

not

Quoted message said:

sure what they mean except the reading for a normal person shoud be 5-7. All this began when I
started to get some numbness in one of my feet,

which

Quoted message said:

after a week didnt go away so I went to the A&E to get it checked out.

The

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

doctor could not find anything other than high blood sugar levels of
18.8mmol/L. Now three weeks later my foot is still bloody numb. Havent been able to sleep for
about five nights. Anyway Here are the results from today. If you can make anything of

them.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Had a small ham sandwich at 15:15 Blood test at 17:20--------17.9mmol/L No food Blood test at
21:34--------5.2mmol/L Had bag o chips and chick/mush pie from chippy at 21:45 Blood test at 22:14--------
9.0mmol/L No food Blood test at 1:22am---------14.9mmol/L No food Blood test at 3:00am---------
15.0mmol/L

Just found this newsgroup and thought I post. In for another long night.

I presume you are not in the USA based on the way your readings are

stated.

Quoted message said:

And I don't know what an A & E is. But it does sound to me like you have Neuropathy (nerve damage)
caused by high BG (blood glucose). I have this and this is what first brought me to the Dr. It
won't get any better

unless

Quoted message said:

you get your BG down. I find that any time my BG goes much beyond 150 ( that's about 8.3 in your
numbers), I have pain, numbness or simply loss of sensation.

The foods you are eating are not the best things for diabetics to eat. Carbs raise our BG. What
foods are high in carbs? Bread, pasta, cereal, rice, potatoes, dried beans, peas, corn, sweets,
fruit, fruit juices,

flour,

Quoted message said:

and other things. Eat too many carbs at one time and you'll suffer.

Are you on any sort of medication? If not, you probably need to be at

least

Quoted message said:

for the time being. But you also need to watch your food intake too, decreasing the amount of
carbs eaten and increasing the amount of non-starchy vegetables. You also want to space your meals
out to be about 4-5 hours apart and probably eat a snack before bed that contains carbs,

and

Quoted message said:

protein. This will help to keep your BG more stable. Going without food for too long can cause the
liver to dump glucose, leading to higher BG.

It's good that you are testing, but your tests seem to come at somewhat random times. The best
times to test are upon waking, and two hours after eating. Some people also test at one hour after
eating and before bed.

You

Quoted message said:

should also test any time you don't feel well or before exercise or

driving

Quoted message said:

if you are prone to hypos (low BG).
--
Type 2 users.bestweb.net~jboveOpen ↗

Chris Tattersall said:

Hi, Thanks for the reply.

I am in the UK and A&E is what you may call the ER. Stands for "Accident & Emergency" over here. I
have not yet been told about what foods I can or can't eat. The earliest time I can see the
dietition is in the middle of Feb NEXT year!!!. Although I'm sure the will be able to sort
something out. Shame I don't have private medical insurance. No medication yet, not until I can see
a specialist doctor. Thanks for all the info.

Chris.

Hiya Chris

I was diagnosed 5 weeks ago (it is amazing how much I have learnt in this short time!) and the first
change I was told to make was to plan my meals according to the following: Every meal should be a
third protein (meat, fish, chicken, eggs etc) a third carbs (potatoes, rice, bread or pasta) and a
third vegetables. Also it is important to not eat much fat.

When it comes to the carbonhydrates you will soon encounter the term GI which (simplified) tells you
how "quick" or "slow" the carbs are. The slower the better. Mashed potatoes, chinese rice and white
bread are examples of quick carbs. Boiled potatoes (but not more than two normal sized ones with a
meal), parboiled rice and whole grain bread are often better choices.

What I find hard is to vary the vegetables, green beans, carrots and broccoli are my basic
vegetables. You might like others and choose them. Try not to eat lettuce, cucumber and tomatoe too
much though cause they contain very little fibre and won't keep you full for long.

Also eating smaller snack meals in between the three main meals of the day is a good idea.

Typical pit falls for a brit I think would be brown sauce or red sauce. They both contain a
lot of sugar.

The most important thing though, as many here will tell you, is to "eat to your meter". That means
you have to test your BG with every new food you try.

This is what I have been told: You shouldn't really be above 8 mmol an hour and a half after your
meal but if you can get it down to 6.5. you'll be fine.

Good Luck

/Erika

The first ten years of your life you try to be just like your parents. Then for then years you try
to be as little as your parents as possible. Then you gradually change in to them.

Hi Erika.

Thanks for all the info. It is very helpful at this time.

I have been testing quite a lot over the last few days and have discoverd by eating just vegetables
i.e sprouts, carrots and peas, I can keep the levels below 8.5 mmol/l. I have been eating small
amounts of the food which I always have, these are sending it up over 15 mmol/l and 3 or 4 hours
pass before it begins to drop. Is this normal? I did have a few spells a couple of days ago when the
levels were as low as
5.3 mmol/l which was after not eating for a while. Like you reccomended I am experimenting with what
happens with certain foods etc.

Thanks all

Chris.

"Erika" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Chris Tattersall said:

Hi, Thanks for the reply.

I am in the UK and A&E is what you may call the ER. Stands for "Accident

&

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Emergency" over here. I have not yet been told about what foods I can or can't eat. The

earliest

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

time I can see the dietition is in the middle of Feb NEXT year!!!. Although I'm sure the will be
able to sort something out. Shame I don't

have

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

private medical insurance. No medication yet, not until I can see a specialist doctor. Thanks for
all the info.

Chris.

Hiya Chris

I was diagnosed 5 weeks ago (it is amazing how much I have learnt in this short time!) and the
first change I was told to make was to plan my meals according to the following: Every meal should
be a third protein (meat, fish, chicken, eggs etc) a third carbs (potatoes, rice, bread or pasta)
and a third vegetables. Also it is important to not eat much fat.

When it comes to the carbonhydrates you will soon encounter the term GI which (simplified) tells
you how "quick" or "slow" the carbs are. The slower the better. Mashed potatoes, chinese rice and
white bread are examples of quick carbs. Boiled potatoes (but not more than two normal sized ones
with a meal), parboiled rice and whole grain bread are often better choices.

What I find hard is to vary the vegetables, green beans, carrots and broccoli are my basic
vegetables. You might like others and choose them. Try not to eat lettuce, cucumber and tomatoe
too much though cause they contain very little fibre and won't keep you full for long.

Also eating smaller snack meals in between the three main meals of the day is a good idea.

Typical pit falls for a brit I think would be brown sauce or red sauce. They both contain a lot
of sugar.

The most important thing though, as many here will tell you, is to "eat to your meter". That means
you have to test your BG with every new food you try.

This is what I have been told: You shouldn't really be above 8 mmol an hour and a half after your
meal but if you can get it down to 6.5. you'll be fine.

Good Luck

/Erika

The first ten years of your life you try to be just like your parents. Then for then years you try
to be as little as your parents as possible. Then you gradually change in to them.