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  1. I'm not a vegan but shop at a vegan shop in Manchester, UK [ Unicorn Grocery].

    Recently I needed to buy some honey but was told they didn't sell it because it was an animal
    product. Is this right? Sure, the bees collect nectar and process it to honey but is honey therefore
    not allowed in a vegan diet?

    Philip

  2. "vias" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I'm not a vegan but shop at a vegan shop in Manchester, UK [ Unicorn Grocery].

    Recently I needed to buy some honey but was told they didn't sell it


    because

    Quoted message said:

    it was an animal product. Is this right? Sure, the bees collect nectar and process it to honey but
    is honey therefore not allowed in a vegan diet?

    Philip

    Bees are animals, and honey contains some chemicals from the bees in it as well as the flower
    nectar. Honey isn't vegetarian, much less vegan.

    -Rubystars

  3. Take a look at: airborne.co.nzEnzymes.html Most of the beneficial enzymes are destroyed
    by commercial honey processing. Raw honey is considered healthful by many, but is obviously an
    animal processed product. I take care of the bees and they share. Pete

    "vias" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm not a vegan but shop at a vegan shop in Manchester, UK [ Unicorn Grocery].

    Recently I needed to buy some honey but was told they didn't sell it


    because

    Quoted message said:

    it was an animal product. Is this right? Sure, the bees collect nectar and process it to honey but
    is honey therefore not allowed in a vegan diet?

    Philip

  4. Quoted message said:

    From: "vias" [email hidden]
    Newsgroups: alt.food.vegan
    Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 23:42:04 +0000 (UTC)

    Quoted message said:


    I'm not a vegan but shop at a vegan shop in Manchester, UK [ Unicorn Grocery].

    Recently I needed to buy some honey but was told they didn't sell it because it was an animal
    product. Is this right? Sure, the bees collect nectar and process it to honey but is honey
    therefore not allowed in a vegan diet?

    Philip

    Bees are insects. Insects die in the harvest of fruits and vegetables (look in your lettuce and
    celery). If vegans worried about harming insects, they would starve.

    But then millions of mice and earth worms, die each year in the cultivation and harvest of
    vegetables. Thus is the moral burden of vegans.

    :/

    caveat lector

    Halcitron misc.survivalism Check your six and know when to duck. NRA Member since 2002 The Law of
    the Land, is the weapon in your hand.

    Smith & Wesson starts where the Bill of Rights stop.

  5. Thanks

    Yes, I normally use individual apiculteur honey from France but ran out.

    "Pete Wolcott" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:B95Kb.281364$Ec1.9664690@bgtnsc05-
    news.ops.worldnet.att.net...

    Quoted message said:

    Take a look at: airborne.co.nzEnzymes.html Most of the beneficial enzymes are
    destroyed by commercial honey processing. Raw


    honey

    Quoted message said:

    is considered healthful by many, but is obviously an animal processed product. I take care of the
    bees and they share. Pete

    "vias" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm not a vegan but shop at a vegan shop in Manchester, UK [ Unicorn Grocery].

    Recently I needed to buy some honey but was told they didn't sell it


    because

    Quoted message said:

    it was an animal product. Is this right? Sure, the bees collect nectar


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    process it to honey but is honey therefore not allowed in a vegan diet?

    Philip


  6. Quoted message said:

    From: "Pete Wolcott" [email hidden]
    Newsgroups: alt.food.vegan

    Quoted message said:


    Take a look at: airborne.co.nzEnzymes.html Most of the beneficial enzymes are destroyed
    by commercial honey processing. Raw honey is considered healthful by many, but is obviously an
    animal processed product. I take care of the bees and they share. Pete

    And what of milk and eggs? You don't kill the cow/goat or chicken to get these, however the pig must
    die to give up the bacon.

    :/

    caveat lector

    Halcitron misc.survivalism Check your six and know when to duck. NRA Member since 2002 The Law of
    the Land, is the weapon in your hand.

    Smith & Wesson starts where the Bill of Rights stop.

  7. Eggs and milk are manufactured not processed a bit of a different issue. I am not trying to be a
    purist. If you don't want to eat honey don't eat it. One interesting thing I saw in vegan cook book
    was a call out for Vegan Honey. As far as I know it is Illegal to sell anything labeled as honey
    that isn't Honey! (US) Pete

    "Halcitron" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20040106223449.01759.00001373@mb-
    m20.aol.com...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    From: "Pete Wolcott" [email hidden] Newsgroups: alt.food.vegan

    Quoted message said:


    Take a look at: airborne.co.nzEnzymes.html Most of the beneficial enzymes are
    destroyed by commercial honey processing. Raw


    honey

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    is considered healthful by many, but is obviously an animal processed product. I take care of the
    bees and they share. Pete

    And what of milk and eggs? You don't kill the cow/goat or chicken to get


    these,

    Quoted message said:

    however the pig must die to give up the bacon.

    :/

    caveat lector

    Halcitron misc.survivalism Check your six and know when to duck. NRA Member since 2002 The Law of
    the Land, is the weapon in your hand.

    Smith & Wesson starts where the Bill of Rights stop.

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