biking terminology

My thinking would be opposite. I think it is about perspective. You are
speaking (I think) that the roadside is the focal point, mine would be the
center of the road. When you ride with someone long enough, you develop
your own interpretations...and then add in local culture. For instance my
husband and I have several phrases that we use and WE know exactly what's
going on. One of them, mostly on the tandem is "to go skinny". That means
there is a narrow situation up ahead, riding close to something, etc. A
narrow single file. Another one when we had our upright tandem was "in two"
and that meant in two pedal revolutions, we would stop pedaling. A hard
unexpected stop in pedaling can be disconcerting if you're not expecting it.
Perry
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My wife who is Dutch (and who speaks excellent English) uses the following words to describe this
situation - when we are biking side by side (in Holland where traffic moves on the right side) and
I am biking closer to the center of the road, will say that I am on the _outside_ and she in on
the inside. Is this just a Dutch way of thinking or is this the way you describe it as well? Just
wondering.

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My wife who is Dutch (and who speaks excellent English) uses the following words to describe this
situation - when we are biking side by side (in Holland where traffic moves on the right side) and
I am biking closer to the center of the road, will say that I am on the _outside_ and she in on
the inside. Is this just a Dutch way of thinking or is this the way you describe it as well? Just
wondering.

In the US the 'inside lane' of a multilane roadway is considered (by me at least) to be the one
closest to the center of the multi lane roadway.

At a track meet, (probably has international acceptance), the inside lane is the one closest to the
inside portion (loci) of the track.

On a roadway with curves, And here's where this might get confusing, the lane closest to the center
of the arc formed by the curve would be considered the inside lane. So who would be the _outside_
rider would change depeng upon whether the curve was a right hand or left hand turn.

BTW, The woman is always right.
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In the US the 'inside lane' of a multilane roadway is considered (by me at least) to be the one
closest to the center of the multi lane roadway.

Interesting. Here it's the opposite.

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BCletus Lee said:

In the US the 'inside lane' of a multilane roadway is considered (by me at least) to be the one
closest to the center of the multi lane roadway.

Interesting. Here it's the opposite.

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Perry and Cletus identified the road center perspective which identify our designation of inside vs. outside.

What is the perspective location in UK/Netherlands the results in the opposite designation?

DH said:

when we are biking side by side (in Holland where traffic moves on the right side) and I am biking
closer to the center of the road, will say that I am on the _outside_ and she in on the inside.

Normal usage in the UK is the same. Alternately use "nearside" for the side nearest the kerb and
"offside" for the side nearest the centreline.

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Oh no, this is going to get even more confusing.

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me at least) to be the one closest to the center of the multi lane roadway.

Interesting. Here it's the opposite.
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Perry and Cletus identified the road center perspective which identify our designation of inside
vs. outside.

What is the perspective location in UK/Netherlands the results in the opposite designation?

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Cletus Lee said:

In the US the 'inside lane' of a multilane roadway is considered (by me at least) to be the one
closest to the center of the multi lane roadway.

Interesting. Here it's the opposite.

WRT a track (cycle or running), is the _inside_ lane closest to the infield (there be a hint here)
or closest to the bleachers? Do you Brits ride anti-clockwise on a track like we do here in the US?
Does anyone ride clockwise?

In reguards to the British, I can somewhat understand that the inside lane on a roadway is the one
on the leftmost. It works the same here too. I can not understand why the Dutch put it on the
rightmost side.

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In reguards to the British, I can somewhat understand that the inside

lane on a roadway is the

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one on the leftmost. It works the same here too. I can not understand

why the Dutch put it on

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the rightmost side.

It might not be al the Dutch, it might be just my wife. Are there any Dutch bikers here who can
offer their two Euro cents?

In fotos it looks like they ride widdershins across the pond, too. I think
it's only their ponies that go the other way.
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Cletus Lee said:

In the US the 'inside lane' of a multilane roadway is considered (by me at least) to be the
one closest to the center of the multi lane roadway.

Interesting. Here it's the opposite.

WRT a track (cycle or running), is the _inside_ lane closest to the

infield (there be a hint

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here) or closest to the bleachers? Do you Brits ride anti-clockwise on a

track like we do here

Quoted message said:

in the US? Does anyone ride clockwise?

In reguards to the British, I can somewhat understand that the inside lane

on a roadway is the

Quoted message said:

one on the leftmost. It works the same here too. I can not understand why

the Dutch put it on

Quoted message said:

the rightmost side.

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DH said:

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In reguards to the British, I can somewhat understand that the inside lane on a roadway is the
one on the leftmost. It works the same here too. I can not understand why the Dutch put it on the
rightmost side.

It might not be al the Dutch, it might be just my wife. Are there any Dutch bikers here who can
offer their two Euro cents?

Wow, this is confusing! Well I am a Dutch biker, so here are my thoughts.

Me, being a Dutchman, I'd use the exact same expression for riding on the right side to
someone. Perhaps it is a Dutch way of thinking, or just a typical Dutch expression. I guess
Dutch bikers see the kerb or the verge as the reference point when cycling next to someone, not
the center of the road.

Ofcourse it is the outside of the *road*, but the inside, if you only look at the the two *bikers*.
Closest to the kerb is the 'safe place'; the inside of the two bikers.

In Dutch you would say "aan de binnenkant fietsen", directly translated: "biking on the inside".

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Cletus Lee said:

WRT a track (cycle or running), is the _inside_ lane closest to the infield (there be a hint here)
or closest to the bleachers?

On a track, the inside is the infield.

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Do you Brits ride anti-clockwise on a track like we do here in the US? Does anyone ride clockwise?

Velodromes, running tracks and greyhound racing run anti-clockwise here, though I heard that they
had been running some training sessions on the Manchester track in the opposite direction to even
out wear. Given that the corners there are not symmetrical, that must have made life, er,
interesting. "Road" race cycles circuits seem all to go anti-clockwise too, but motor racing and
motorcycle racing circuits generally go clockwise. On the F1 circuit, only Imola and Interlagos are
anti-clockwise, which usually leads to drivers moaning about unfamiliar loading on their collective
neck... Don't know for sure about horses - I've seen them go both ways..

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In reguards to the British, I can somewhat understand that the inside lane on a roadway is the one
on the leftmost. It works the same here too. I can not understand why the Dutch put it on the
rightmost side.

When driving on the right - in Abroad, Obv. - I still think of the lane closest to the edge of the
carriageway as being the "inside" and the one next to the central reservation / median strip as the
outside. Likewise the "nearside" and "offside" of a car...

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Mike, I think you cleared it up for me. Thanks! Dave (in Noord Brabant)