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  1. They were "discussing" helmets on GMTV this morning. Have you got yourself on there to present the
    other side of the argument tomorrow Guy?

  2. Feedback via their forum:

    "A pity that you, too, have been duped by BHIT (do they pronounce that Be-Hit?).

    The stats they quote are wildly inaccurate, and the claims they make for the dangers of cycling are
    grossly exaggerated. The 85% and 88% figures for injury savings which BHIT use were corrected by
    their original authors in 1996, and no country which has introduced compulsion has ever experienced
    any reduction in cyclist head injury rates or fatality rates. Indeed, the rates usually rise due to
    the substantial reduction in the numbers cycling which always results from such a law.

    90% of child cycle accidents happen in offroad play. How will a helmet law affect this? Of
    course it won't.

    But if your viewers really want to do something to save lives, why not concentrate on the 3,000
    plus killed and tens of thousands seriously injured on Britain's roads every year? Road crashes are
    the leading cause of death in the 5-16 age group, and the vast majority of those killed are not
    riding a bike at the time. According to Police, 90% of injury crashes are the result of driver
    error. Crashes are not caused by people taking huge risks, but by the taking of small risks very
    large numbers of times.

    Instead of trying to save one or two injuries at most by forcing cyclists to wear plastic hats which
    have never produced the effects their advocates claim for them, why not encourage drivers to drive
    carefully and obey the highway code? That would really save lives.

    For a balancing view I suggest you contact John Franklin, probably the UK's foremost cycling expert
    (www.lesberries.co.uk) or Jane Griffiths, MP, chair of the all-party cycling group. Both can rebut
    BHIT's distortions line by line. And for a list of the reasons why BHIT are wrong check
    www.ctc.org.uk and www.cyclehelmets.org."

    --
    Guy
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    chapmancentral.demon.co.ukchapmancentral.demon.co.uk "AndyP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    They were "discussing" helmets on GMTV this morning. Have you got


    yourself

    Quoted message said:

    on there to present the other side of the argument tomorrow Guy?

  3. "AndyP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    They were "discussing" helmets on GMTV this morning. Have you got


    yourself

    Quoted message said:

    on there to present the other side of the argument tomorrow Guy?

    I saw it, and within 10 seconds correctely predicted the flow of the discussion:

    [Personnel present: Lorraine Kelly (LK) and a mother who's sprog met an untimely end on a bike...]

    LK: Och, that's tayrrible! Och you poor thing you! Yes, youde best assauge your guilt and regret by
    campaigning to force haylmets onto every other pure sod who rides a bayke (etc etc)*.

    Best,

    Tim.

    *With apologies for the McGonagall-esqe scottishness, but when Lorraine's in full compassionate
    flow, she really does turn the scots dial to 11.

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  4. In message <[email hidden]>, Tim Cain
    <tim_no1@you_know_what_to_cut_timcain.co.uk> writes

    Quoted message said:

    [Personnel present: Lorraine Kelly (LK) and a mother who's sprog met an untimely end on a bike...]

    LK: Och, that's tayrrible! Och you poor thing you! Yes, youde best assauge your guilt and regret by
    campaigning to force haylmets onto every other pure sod who rides a bayke (etc etc)*.

    Concluding with: Kin ye see ma grrrrowlerrrr?

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  5. Tim Cain' tim_no1@you_know_what_to_cut_timcain.co.uk said:

    *With apologies for the McGonagall-esqe scottishness, but when Lorraine's in full compassionate
    flow, she really does turn the scots dial to 11.

    Gin she did thon, ye's'd no speir e'en whilk leid she cleckit.

    --
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  6. "Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Tim Cain' tim_no1@you_know_what_to_cut_timcain.co.uk said:

    *With apologies for the McGonagall-esqe scottishness, but when Lorraine's in full compassionate
    flow, she really does turn the scots dial to 11.

    Gin she did thon, ye's'd no speir e'en whilk leid she cleckit.

    Lorraine only does English-media friendly scottishness these days. (When she's not too busy getting
    'em out for her internet appreciation society)

    Best,

    Tim.

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  7. On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 20:48:38 -0000 someone who may be "Tim Cain"
    <tim_no1@you_know_what_to_cut_timcain.co.uk> wrote this:-

    Quoted message said:

    Lorraine only does English-media friendly scottishness these days. (When she's not too busy getting
    'em out for her internet appreciation society)

    I have looked up the web site concerned. I looked very carefully but could only find one picture in
    which I could see her nipples (the part of her anatomy that the media coverage was all about before
    Christmas). They looked very nice indeed.

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