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  1. I was wondering about the differing types of Niacin: there is nicotinic acid, timed release niacin,
    flush free niacin among others.

    I take a rather large amount each day(4 gr). Flush free would be more tolerable as long as it's as
    effective. Anyone have any thoughts?

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    I was wondering about the differing types of Niacin: there is nicotinic acid, timed release
    niacin, flush free niacin among others.

    I take a rather large amount each day(4 gr). Flush free would be more tolerable as long as it's as
    effective. Anyone have any thoughts?

    I recall reading, unfortunately I don't remember where, that Flush free was more likely to have less
    of the active ingredient than advertised. So if you go that route, go with a brand you feel
    comfortable with. Remember this stuff is not regulated.

    Bill

    Bill

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    Subject: Different "Niacin"
    From: "Golgotha" [email hidden]
    Date: 1/4/2004 10:32 AM Mountain Standard Time
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    I was wondering about the differing types of Niacin: there is nicotinic acid, timed release niacin,
    flush free niacin among others.

    I take a rather large amount each day(4 gr). Flush free would be more tolerable as long as it's as
    effective. Anyone have any thoughts?

    Dec 22, 2003

    Cheapest preparations of over-the-counter niacin most effective at lipid lowering

    Seattle, WA - Many over-the-counter niacin preparations may have no free nicotinic acid (vitamin
    B3)the lipid-lowering component for which the product is often marketedwhile others may have too
    much, according to a new study. A survey of 29 over-the-counter products indicated that the
    unregulated products contain variable doses of niacin; in some cases they contain no nicotinic acid,
    and in others they have high concentrations of the agent, which could produce liver toxicity.

    The paper appears in the December 16, 2003 issue of the Annals of Internal Medicine.[1]

    As Dr C Daniel Meyers (Veterans Affairs Medical Center, Long Beach,
    CA) and colleagues explain in their paper, niacin was one of the first agents found to lower LDL and
    triglycerides while boosting HDL when given in daily doses of 1000 to 4000 mg. Large clinical
    trials also showed it to reduce cardiovascular events. Nicotinic acid was never widely used,
    however, because of side effects, primarily "niacin flushing": redness, itching, burning, and
    paresthesias, which set in within 10 to 15 minutes of ingestion and last up to an hour. The
    frequency and severity of these episodes decrease over time with repeated doses, and niacin is
    thus available over the counter in the US as a dietary supplement, unregulated by the US FDA.

    Meyers et al decided to take a closer look at over-the-counter preparations being marketed as niacin
    after witnessing a series of hyperlipidemic patients reporting to the University of Washington
    Medical Center Lipid Clinic in Seattle having failed to respond to over-the-counter niacin therapy.

    When cheaper is better The researchers calculated the monthly cost for each of 29 preparations
    bought from pharmacies, health-food stores, or over the internet. They then used high-performance
    liquid chromatography to measure the free nicotinic acid content. Three types of preparations were
    evaluated: immediate-release, sustained-release, and no-flush formulations. The researchers found
    that the no-flush preparations were the most expensive, followed by the sustained-release
    preparation, at less than half the cost, then the slightly cheaper immediate-release niacin
    preparations. Ironically, the most expensive no-flush preparations were found to have no free
    nicotinic acid, whereas the sustained-release and immediate-release preparations had comparable
    nicotinic acid contentsthe cheap, immediate-release versions containing the most.

    Cost and contents of niacin preparations

    Measure No flush Sustained release Immediate release

    Cost per month ($)
    21.70
    22.75
    23.10

    Average nicotinic acid content (mg)

    24.6
    25.4

    "No-flush niacin is the most expensive of the niacin preparations yet contains no free nicotinic
    acid and should not be used to treat dyslipidemia," Meyers et al conclude. "Sustained-release brands
    are inexpensive and contain a full amount of free nicotinic acid, but several preparations have been
    associated with increased hepatotoxicity."

    Of note, the FDA has approved two prescription brands of niacin, one a sustained release (Niaspan®;
    Kos Pharmaceuticals, Miami, FL) and the other an immediate release (Niacor®; Uspher-Smith,
    Minneapolis, MN), but as the authors point out, these two drugs are considerably more expensive than
    the over-the-counter alternatives.

    For people wishing to try niacin for lipid lowering, the authors recommend immediate-release over-the-
    counter niacin brands such as those made by Rugby Laboratories (Westbury, NY), since many of these
    contain the full amount of nicotinic acid and immediate-release niacin is the only form of the agent
    shown to prevent cardiovascular disease and death in clinical trials. As well, Meyers et al advocate
    baseline laboratory tests for fasting glucose, liver aminotransferase levels, and uric acid in all
    patients before niacin therapy begins, repeated six to eight weeks later and after any dose
    increases.

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  4. Golgotha said:

    I was wondering about the differing types of Niacin: there is nicotinic acid, timed release
    niacin, flush free niacin among others.

    I take a rather large amount each day(4 gr). Flush free would be more tolerable as long as it's as
    effective. Anyone have any thoughts?

    It can be just as effective, ime.

    Humbly,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

  5. Golgotha said:

    I was wondering about the differing types of Niacin: there is nicotinic acid, timed release
    niacin, flush free niacin among others.

    I take a rather large amount each day(4 gr). Flush free would be more tolerable as long as it's as
    effective. Anyone have any thoughts?

    Vitamin B3 comes in two principal forms: niacin (nicotinic acid) and niacinamide (nicotinamide).
    When taken in low doses for nutritional purposes, they are essentially identical. However, each has
    its own particular effects when taken in high doses. High-dose niacin is principally used for
    lowering cholesterol. High-dose niacinamide may be helpful in preventing type 1 (childhood-onset)
    diabetes and reducing symptoms of osteoarthritis. However, there are concerns regarding liver
    inflammation when any form of niacin is taken at high dosages.

    Additionally, good evidence suggests that a special form of niacin, inositol hexaniacinate, can
    improve walking distance in intermittent claudication.

    When used as therapy for a specific disease, niacin, niacinamide, and inositol hexaniacinate are
    taken in dosages much higher than nutritional needs, about 1 to 4 g daily. Because of the risk of
    liver inflammation at these doses, medical supervision is essential.

    There is no question that niacin (but not niacinamide) can significantly lower total cholesterol and
    LDL ("bad"😉 cholesterol and raise HDL ("good"😉 cholesterol.

    --
    Patrick Blanchard, M.D. Board Certified in Family Medicine

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