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  1. Hello,

    Are there any good resources to learn things about bikes and biking? I'm looking for things like:

    What are the characteristics of different frame materials, how does it affect the ride and what
    kinds of riding and riders are they best suited for?

    What are the characteristics of different wheel sizes? Assuming a similar tire and appropriate
    gears, what is each size best suited for?

    Different types of frame geometry. What's the difference and characteristics of a frame for touring,
    road racing, mountain biking, cyclocross, etc?

    What's a cyclocross race like? I know nothing about it but I'm leaning toward that style of bike so
    I'm interested in learning more about what kind of riding they are designed for. Both on and off
    road I hear but what kind of distance, how rough is the off road part, etc.

    Anything else that someone who worries too much might like to know before purchasing a bike that
    will be with him for the next 10-15 years.

    Thanks.

  2. On 4 Jan 2004 18:52:43 -0800, [email hidden] (Chris Hansen)

    Quoted message said:

    Hello,

    Are there any good resources to learn things about bikes and biking? I'm looking for things like:

    Quite a list....

    Go to the bottom of this page for a menu of lots of short articles-

    chainreactionbicycles.comchainreactionbicycles.com

    Some frame info-

    citybikes.comframe geometry.htm

    The mother lode of info-

    sheldonbrown.comharris

    A good selection of forums, peruse the lists of questions and responses-

    cyclingforums.comcyclingforums.com

    Some user reviews-

    mtbreview.comreviews roadbikereview.comreviewscrx.aspx

    Good luck. Learn to use google, especially the 'groups' tab.

  3. Chris Hansen said:

    Hello,

    Are there any good resources to learn things about bikes and biking? I'm looking for things like:

    What are the characteristics of different frame materials, how does it affect the ride and what
    kinds of riding and riders are they best suited for?

    The hype far exceeds the reality in terms of frame material. What matters most is fit, and frame
    quality. There is more difference between a good steel frame and a cheap one than between a good
    steel frame and a good titanium one. You will hear testimonials from advocates of any possible
    frame material, but view any claims that seem to be too good to be true as what they are --- too
    good to be true.

    Quoted message said:

    What are the characteristics of different wheel sizes? Assuming a similar tire and appropriate
    gears, what is each size best suited for?

    You might be referring here to the tendency for triatheletes to use smaller-than-normal wheels on
    a road bike. For my money, the best use of small wheels is for small riders, since they allow
    smaller riders to have better frame geometry than the larger standard wheels. For average height
    riders, normal size wheels offer two distinct advantages: availability and cost, and no
    disadvantages. View wild claims about the advantage of smaller wheels similarly to the wild claims
    about unobtanium frames.

    You might also be referring to the mountain bikes now coming available with larger-than-standard
    wheels. I don't have any reason to believe there is a huge advantage there, but mountain biking has
    more specialized situations, and there may be some types of riding for which larger wheels might
    offer some advantage.

    Quoted message said:

    Different types of frame geometry. What's the difference and characteristics of a frame for
    touring, road racing, mountain biking, cyclocross, etc?

    Here there is a difference. Touring bikes are more comfortable than a road bike on long tours (big
    surprise), since their angles (head and seat tube) are not as steep as a road bike. They also have
    fittings for things like racks and fenders, and clearance for the larger tires needed to carry both
    you and your gear. Road bikes (road racing, as you mentioned) are optimized for speed under a wide
    variety of situations. This includes long single-day rides, so they are comfortable when set up
    properly. Mountain bike frames are a whole different animal from road machines, and are definitely
    superior off-road. There is a lot of new technology on mountain bikes that make them very rugged and
    versatile for extreme conditions. Cyclocross bikes are specialized for racing off-road. They are an
    older design than a mountain bike, for a different type of riding than most mountain biking.

    The general idea here is that each type of bike is optimized for the type of riding that they are
    named for. Using a mountain bike for road riding will be slow and hard compared to using a road
    bike. Riding a road bike off-road is not really possible. Touring on a road bike is OK, but a real
    touring bike is better. Touring on a mountain bike (unless much of it is off-road) will be far
    harder than using a touring bike.

    Quoted message said:

    What's a cyclocross race like?

    Muddy. Hard. Crazy. You have to see one to understand.

    Quoted message said:

    Anything else that someone who worries too much might like to know before purchasing a bike that
    will be with him for the next 10-15 years.

    Be more concerned about fit than anything else. Do not settle for a straddle-the-bar fitting. A good
    shop has a "fit-kit" that will help decide what size bike you need, what changes to components
    (often the stem) you need to make the fit right, and whether or not a stock frame will do. Some
    people, due to their proportions, do not fit well on stock frames, since they are proportioned for
    average-proportion people. If you are in that category, you will want to consider a custom frame if
    you get hooked seriously into the sport.

    --

    David L. Johnson

    __o | It is a scientifically proven fact that a mid life crisis can _`\(,_ | only be cured by
    something racy and Italian. Bianchis and (_)/ (_) | Colnagos are a lot cheaper than Maserattis
    and Ferraris. -- Glenn Davies

  4. You're looking for info on just about everything cycling, and you've pretty much come to the right
    place. Between rec.bicycles.misc and rec.bicycles.tech you'll find enough information (and,
    sometimes, mis-information!) to keep yourself busy for eons. Oh, and if you really want a lively
    discussion, go to rec.bicycles.recumbent and ask why road bikes are better for climbing. Then duck
    below the desk before the replies come in!

    Best place to start would be to master Google.

    But the most important thing of all is missing from your request- what would YOU like to do with a
    bike? YOUR dreams and YOUR ideas are far more important, as a place to start. It's kind of bass-
    ackwards to do all the research on the product first. In my mind, a bike isn't just a tool (like you
    might regard a car or a kitchen appliance). It's something that's more than just two wheels, a
    handlebar & seatpost. Put everything together and it's a magical transportation device, but not
    transportation just in terms of getting from point-A to point-B. It will transport you away from
    your day-to-day existence into a whole new world.

    What, me, romantic about bikes? Rather ironic, given my typically-cynical nature!

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles chainreactionbicycles.comchainreactionbicycles.com

    "Chris Hansen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hello,

    Are there any good resources to learn things about bikes and biking? I'm looking for things like:

    What are the characteristics of different frame materials, how does it affect the ride and what
    kinds of riding and riders are they best suited for?

    What are the characteristics of different wheel sizes? Assuming a similar tire and appropriate
    gears, what is each size best suited for?

    Different types of frame geometry. What's the difference and characteristics of a frame for
    touring, road racing, mountain biking, cyclocross, etc?

    What's a cyclocross race like? I know nothing about it but I'm leaning toward that style of bike
    so I'm interested in learning more about what kind of riding they are designed for. Both on and
    off road I hear but what kind of distance, how rough is the off road part, etc.

    Anything else that someone who worries too much might like to know before purchasing a bike that
    will be with him for the next 10-15 years.

    Thanks.

  5. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Hello, Are there any good resources to learn things about bikes and biking? I'm looking for things
    like: What are the characteristics of different frame materials, how does it affect the ride and
    what kinds of riding and riders are they best suited for? What are the characteristics of different
    wheel sizes? Assuming a similar tire and appropriate gears, what is each size best suited for?
    Different types of frame geometry. What's the difference and characteristics of a frame for
    touring, road racing, mountain biking, cyclocross, etc? What's a cyclocross race like? I know
    nothing about it but I'm leaning toward that style of bike so I'm interested in learning more about
    what kind of riding they are designed for. Both on and off road I hear but what kind of distance,
    how rough is the off road part, etc. Anything else that someone who worries too much might like to
    know before purchasing a bike that will be with him for the next 10-15 years.

    You can't go wrong by starting at www.sheldonbrown.com .
    --------------
    Alex

  6. "Chris Hansen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hello,

    Are there any good resources to learn things about bikes and biking?


    <snip>

    Barnett's Manual is pretty good for mechanical stuff ... you can but it for like $100 or something,
    but somebody was nice enough to post the whole thing on the net as a .pdf ...

    d.umn.edumanual

    I actually downloaded and printed out the whole thing (c:

    C.Q.C.

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