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OhJeeez said:
trying to help my friend with highly restricted diet. any suggestions appreciated. thanks.I have a friend with a bad case of Crohn's, that's a toughy. I'm not trying to blow you off or
anything, but there is a newsgroup for these diseases. alt.support.crohns-colitis They might be
better help for you. Also, their doctor should give them plenty of guidance.nancy
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Nancy Young said:
OhJeeez said:
trying to help my friend with highly restricted diet. any suggestions appreciated. thanks.I have a friend with a bad case of Crohn's, that's a toughy. I'm not trying to blow you off or
anything, but there is a newsgroup for these diseases. alt.support.crohns-colitis They might be
better help for you. Also, their doctor should give them plenty of guidance.nancy
Yep. I have (for now) a not very specific diagnosis; IBS. It was recommended when the symptoms flare
up I eat very bland food; that's tough for me since I adore spicy food. I was instructed to use the
BRAT diet to start off. Broth, rice, applesauce and tea. No caffeine; no dairy.I was able to expand that to include boiled, mashed or baked potatoes; boiled eggs; dry toast; plain
pasta. Molly McButter became my friend for potatoes and the eggs. A drizzle of olive oil in which I
sauteed a little minced garlic and a sprinkling of herbs made the pasta rather tasty.Jill
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Broth, rice, applesauce and tea. No caffeine; no dairy.
Tea, but no caffeine? How does that work?
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Broth, rice, applesauce and tea. No caffeine; no dairy.
Tea, but no caffeine? How does that work?
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Thre are plenty of decaf teas, not to mention herbal teas which never had caffeine in the
first place.Herbal teas aren't really teas. That's why they are referred to as "tisanes" in many countries.
rona
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jmcquown said:
Yep. I have (for now) a not very specific diagnosis; IBS.
I been trying to tell you this or years.
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In rec.food.cooking said:
Broth, rice, applesauce and tea. No caffeine; no dairy.
Tea, but no caffeine? How does that work?
Herbal teas (tisanes, as Rona calls them). The idea is warm liquids and bland food. Coffee is a tad
too strong as are most sodas which contain caffeine.I prefer my tea with milk or cream, but when I'm afflicted with this I cannot even add that and have
to keep sugar to a minimum, too.Jill
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Thre are plenty of decaf teas, not to mention herbal teas which never had caffeine in the
first place.Herbal teas aren't really teas. That's why they are referred to as "tisanes" in many countries.
rona
Okay, but I think in the US that people often refer to them as teas.
Wayne
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<< I'm not trying to blow you off or anything, but there is a newsgroup for these diseases. alt.support.crohns-
colitis They might be better help for you. Also, their doctor should give them plenty of
guidance. >>thanks. we've tried those... just looking to get more flavor back in her life.
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Try searching for "low residue diet" and "low fiber diet". These essentially mean the same thing,
but better for you to double the odds of success.People with Crohns can eat whatever they want as long as it is in remission. Once it flares up, the
food needs to be stuff that is easily digested. Avoid: whole wheats, fried foods, smoked foods,
seeds of any sort, raw vegetables and fruitsGo For: simple starches (potatoes, rice...), lean, tender meats
Dairy products seem to vary by individual. Spice is fine as long as seeds aren't being consumed,
however, if someone gets gassy from spicy food normally, they should pass on them when flaring up.Good luck
Bob (Crohn's for 6 years, 3 hospitalizations, 1 surgery... fighting off another one...)
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trying to help my friend with highly restricted diet. any suggestions appreciated. thanks.
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Does anyone know what it is about caffeine that causes flare ups? I thought its major effect was a
diuretic, which I thought took moisture out of the bowels. Wouldn't this assist against flare ups? -
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PlaneGuy said:
Does anyone know what it is about caffeine that causes flare ups? I thought its major effect was a
diuretic, which I thought took moisture out of the bowels. Wouldn't this assist against flare ups?It's an irritant and a stimulant...
Decaffinated coffee is not good either. Coffee is acidic and has other gastrointestinal irritants in
it as well.Switch to tea. :-) For some reason, it tends to be far gentler on the system, even with the caffiene
content. It also contains natural anti-oxidants.K.
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Katra said:
Decaffinated coffee is not good either. Coffee is acidic
Pissing in the wind compared to the acid your stomach produces. The acids in coffee are marked up
in many partaker's minds because of the increased reflux due to relaxation of the
gastroesophogeal junction.Quoted message said:
and has other gastrointestinal irritants in it as well.
Switch to tea. :-) For some reason, it tends to be far gentler on the system, even with the
caffiene content. It also contains natural anti-oxidants.
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Does anyone know what it is about caffeine that causes flare ups? I
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its major effect was a diuretic, which I thought took moisture out of
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bowels. Wouldn't this assist against flare ups?
It's an irritant and a stimulant...
Decaffinated coffee is not good either. Coffee is acidic and has other gastrointestinal irritants
in it as well.Switch to tea. :-) For some reason, it tends to be far gentler on the system, even with the
caffiene content. It also contains natural anti-oxidants.K.
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cgi6.ebay.comeBayISAPI.dllOpen ↗ =katraGot that right. I've been battling colitis for at least 20 years. One cup of coffee - decaf or
regular - sets me off within about 15 minutes. Even Coca-Cola does it to me. Tea is much easier
to digest.I have noticed that if I'm going to go to a dinner party and obviously have no control over the
menu, if I have a couple of glasses of wine before dinner, there is less chance of a flair up.Kilikini
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Katra said:
Decaffinated coffee is not good either. Coffee is acidic
Pissing in the wind compared to the acid your stomach produces. The acids in coffee are marked up
in many partaker's minds because of the increased reflux due to relaxation of the gastroesophogeal
junction.Just going by what my Gastroenterologist told me... If it is so harmless, why does it make me so ill
to drink it? It also irritates the colon. Big time. That's why coffee is such a great laxative.Quoted message said:
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and has other gastrointestinal irritants in it as well.
Switch to tea. :-) For some reason, it tends to be far gentler on the system, even with the
caffiene content. It also contains natural anti-oxidants.
And is constipating to some 🙁 blacksalt who must therefore limit her tea intakeEat more fiber or take Magnesium supplements. :-) I dring tea every day and don't have that problem,
and DO have chronic GI problems if I don't watch my diet. IBS. Lots of food sensitivities.What it all boils down to really is what works for each individual. Pay attention to what you eat
and drink, and how it makes you feel, and tailor it from there.K.
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Does anyone know what it is about caffeine that causes flare ups? I
thoughtQuoted message said:
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its major effect was a diuretic, which I thought took moisture out of
theQuoted message said:
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bowels. Wouldn't this assist against flare ups?
It's an irritant and a stimulant...
Decaffinated coffee is not good either. Coffee is acidic and has other gastrointestinal
irritants in it as well.Switch to tea. :-) For some reason, it tends to be far gentler on the system, even with the
caffiene content. It also contains natural anti-oxidants.K.
Got that right. I've been battling colitis for at least 20 years. One cup of coffee - decaf or
regular - sets me off within about 15 minutes. Even Coca-Cola does it to me. Tea is much easier
to digest.I have noticed that if I'm going to go to a dinner party and obviously have no control over the
menu, if I have a couple of glasses of wine before dinner, there is less chance of a flair up.Kilikini
Interesting. :-) Red or white wine, or does it matter???
K.
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Switch to tea. :-) For some reason, it tends to be far gentler on the system, even with the
caffiene content. It also contains natural anti-oxidants.K.
Got that right. I've been battling colitis for at least 20 years. One
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of coffee - decaf or regular - sets me off within about 15 minutes.
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Coca-Cola does it to me. Tea is much easier to digest.
I have noticed that if I'm going to go to a dinner party and obviously
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no control over the menu, if I have a couple of glasses of wine before dinner, there is less
chance of a flair up.Kilikini
Interesting. :-) Red or white wine, or does it matter???
K.
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cgi6.ebay.comeBayISAPI.dllOpen ↗ =katraRed seems to be the ticket. If you have stomach problems, give it a try and see if it helps you out
as well. I figured it worked because it helps relax you, but I don't know it it's also because it's
rumored to help digestion.Kili
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> Switch to tea. :-) For some reason, it tends to be far gentler on the system, even with the
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Got that right. I've been battling colitis for at least 20 years. One
cupQuoted message said:
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of coffee - decaf or regular - sets me off within about 15 minutes.
EvenQuoted message said:
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Coca-Cola does it to me. Tea is much easier to digest.
I have noticed that if I'm going to go to a dinner party and obviously
haveQuoted message said:
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no control over the menu, if I have a couple of glasses of wine before dinner, there is less
chance of a flair up.Kilikini
Interesting. :-) Red or white wine, or does it matter???
K.
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Quoted message said:
,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<[email hidden]>,,<
cgi6.ebay.comeBayISAPI.dllOpen ↗ =katraRed seems to be the ticket. If you have stomach problems, give it a try and see if it helps you
out as well. I figured it worked because it helps relax you, but I don't know it it's also because
it's rumored to help digestion.Kili
There has been a lot written about the medicinal benefits of red wine. ;-) Thanks for replying! I
might try that also before going out to eat.K.
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