Pizza.

On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 16:37:31 GMT, "Vox Humana" <[email hidden]>

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First of all, I wouldn't order from Dominoes if it was the last pizza place on earth. Dominoes has
bad pizza, in my opinion, and that is enough reason to avoid them. The other reason is that
Dominoes is aligned with some extreme right-wing religious groups, and part of your purchase price
ends up funding law suites for political causes like forcing schools to teach creationism. The
Thomas More Law Center was established by Dominoes founder, Tom Monaghan and is housed in the
Dominoes headquarters in Ann Arbor, Michigan. Thomas More Law Center is extremely anti-gay. Thomas
More lists Rick Santorum and Alan Keyes among its board members and supplies guest attorneys to Fox
News network shows such as Hannity and Colmes and the O'Reilly Factor.

Monaghan is also a rabid anti-abortion activist and once said something to the effect of "once we
make abortion illegal, we'll go

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I try to find a local pizza place to order from -- even if I have to pick-up the pizza.

As do I, plus I really believe in supporting local businesses as much as possible. In fact, I'm
gonna go to my local appliance dealer instead of Sears to look for a new gas range.

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Vox Humana said:

First of all, I wouldn't order from Dominoes if it was the last pizza place on earth. Dominoes
has bad pizza, in my opinion, and that is enough reason to avoid them. The other reason is that
Dominoes is aligned with some extreme right-wing religious groups, and part of your purchase
price ends up funding law suites for political causes like forcing schools to teach creationism.
The Thomas More Law Center was established by Dominoes founder, Tom Monaghan and is housed in the
Dominoes headquarters in Ann Arbor, Michigan. Thomas More Law Center is extremely anti-gay.
Thomas More lists Rick Santorum and Alan Keyes among its board members and supplies guest
attorneys to Fox News network shows such as Hannity and Colmes and the O'Reilly Factor.

Monaghan is also a rabid anti-abortion activist and once said something to the effect of "once we
make abortion illegal, we'll go

Yeah, I even feel bad that I went through their Christmas light display in Michigan even though the
proceeds went to some charity. I can't support someone like him.

nancy

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... Dominoes is aligned with some extreme right-wing religious groups, and part of your
purchase price

ends up

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funding law suites for political causes like forcing schools to teach creationism. The Thomas
More Law Center was established by Dominoes founder, Tom Monaghan and is housed in the Dominoes
headquarters in Ann Arbor, Michigan. Thomas More Law Center is extremely anti-gay. Thomas

More

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lists Rick Santorum and Alan Keyes among its board members and supplies guest attorneys to Fox
News network shows such as Hannity and Colmes and

the

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O'Reilly Factor.

Can you point to reputable independent sources where the connections you claim to exist can be
verified? Not that I think you're knowingly propagating false information, but I still remember
the hoax involving Proctor and Gamble from many years ago so I try to be careful with claims
like this.

You can follow this link to the Thomas Moore website. They talk about their history, including Tom
Monaghan, and you can also look at the bios of their board members.
thomasmore.orgindex.htmlOpen ↗

Dominoes claims that it doesn't DIRECTLY fund anti-gay and anti-abortion groups. However, their
profits go to Monaghan who then forks over the money. One way or another, when you buy Dominoes
Pizza, you a funding the religious right.

lol, my thoughts exactly. Dominoes for Italian and Panda Express for Chinese, and I think he'd be a
very happy camper!

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I was reading the pizza posts below, and was wondering: why is a food (any food) supposedly
"better" in it's country of origin than here in the U.S.?

I personally believe American pizza simply dwarfs its italian predicessor. Why is there so little
italian pizza in the U.S.? Because nobody wants it! Italian "pizza" is an impotent concoction of
crunchy, paper thin "bread" that is so unappetizing that it has to be covered up by a feable
excuse for tomato sauce and (what appear to be) rotten, overcooked herbs like fresh basil leaves.
And no, I don't like four large lumps of grainy mozzarella placed confusingly on the top. Grate
your cheese, please. And give me some meat baby!

Take this man to Domino's or Papa John's. He can die happy!

Wayne

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I was reading the pizza posts below, and was wondering: why is a food (any food) supposedly
"better" in it's country of origin than here in the U.S.?

I personally believe American pizza simply dwarfs its italian predicessor. Why is there so little
italian pizza in the U.S.? Because nobody wants it! Italian "pizza" is an impotent concoction of
crunchy, paper thin "bread" that is so unappetizing that it has to be covered up by a feable
excuse for tomato sauce and (what appear to be) rotten, overcooked herbs like fresh basil leaves.
And no, I don't like four large lumps of grainy mozzarella placed confusingly on the top. Grate
your cheese, please. And give me some meat baby!

I grew up on the "pizza that nobody wants". There is nothing better than good dough that is nicely
browned with a minimilist topping. The pizza hut (or other) style with an inch of mixed stuff on top
is known as "kid's pizza" by everyone I know. Fortunately the "pizza that nobody wants" is readily
available in my area and is so popular that there are waiting lines on Friday nights.

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John Gaughan said:

Seriously, though, pizza without meat is like a hamburger without the burger, like a chicken
sandwich without the chicken, etc.

I'm not a vegetarian, but I really like a well-made Pizza Margherita. A thick chewy crust, lots of
scratch-made tomato sauce, real mozarella, and shreds of fresh basil. That's all, no meat. Couple it
with a cold beer and you've got a little glimpse of heaven.

Years ago, when I lived in Ithaca NY, my fave pizza joint was Vinny's in CollegeTown. Vinny made
pizzas with every topping you could imagine. But he was especially proud of his Margherita. The key
to this stuff is using high quality ingredients. Most places don't come close.

But pizza is such a personal thing. So many different styles, so many opinions...

--
Julian Vrieslander

On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 21:39:31 GMT, "George" <[email hidden]>

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I grew up on the "pizza that nobody wants". There is nothing better than good dough that is nicely
browned with a minimilist topping. The pizza hut (or other) style with an inch of mixed stuff on
top is known as "kid's pizza" by everyone I know. Fortunately the "pizza that nobody wants" is
readily available in my area and is so popular that there are waiting lines on Friday nights.

I'm with you, George. A couple of nights ago we had two pretty good pizzas for dinner.

One had crumbled bulk sausage that I had made, thinly sliced and blanched new potatoes, and a few
small chunks of gorgonzola. The other had a chunky tomato sauce of my doing, some shavings of dry
mozz, and, as it came out of the oven, some "baby" spinach leaves from a bag. Very simple and
very good.

I make six, six-ounce pizza dough balls once or twice a month and have them in the freezer for
whenever that urge hits.

I had my last chain-store pizza about ten years ago, despite the fact that one of the nicest people
I've ever known, and who is also a friend of mine, owns the Pizza Hut stores here in San Antonio.

David

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Vox Humana said:

First of all, I wouldn't order from Dominoes if it was the last pizza

place

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on earth.

Here are the facts: snopes.comdomino.aspOpen ↗

A small bit from the above: "These days none of the revenues that flow into Domino's reach this
controversial man, so no portion of what a customer pays for a medium pepperoni-and-cheese funds
the causes he supports. Monaghan sold his

Domino's

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Pizza empire to Bain Capital Inc. for $1 billion in 1998."

Life is seldom black and white nor can you always believe what you read on websites like Snopes.com

According to the US Securities and Exchange Commission, (SEC), Thomas Monaghan owns "26.9% of
outstanding voting securities" in Domino's, Inc. You can verify this by looking under the "Principal
Stockholders" section of their prospectus filed December 11, 2003 and listed at this address on the
SEC's website:
sec.govd424b3.htmOpen ↗

I see no way to reconcile the statement that you posted from Snopes.com site with the fact that
Monaghan owns nearly 27% of the company. Furthermore, Dominos operates a 501 -3-c corporation called
the "Domino's Farms Petting Farm and Event Center." If you look at the IRS 990 form filed by this
corporation at www.Guidestar.org, (see Schedule A, section 5, page 18) you will begin to see the
tight web of shell companies headed by Monaghan. He is on the board of directors. The farm "leases
at no cost" it's equipment from another corporation headed by Monaghan. The land and buildings are
owned by another corporation also headed by Monaghan. The Dominos Farms Petting Farm and Event
Center is headquartered in the Domino's world headquarters in Ann Arbor Michigan. This farm and
event center refused to rent their facilities to NOW for a function. Technically, you could say that
Domino's had nothing to do with this, but in reality, they did.

On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 21:39:31 GMT, "George" <[email hidden]>

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"Oscar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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I was reading the pizza posts below, and was wondering: why is a food (any food) supposedly
"better" in it's country of origin than here in the U.S.?

I personally believe American pizza simply dwarfs its italian predicessor. Why is there so little
italian pizza in the U.S.? Because nobody wants it! Italian "pizza" is an impotent concoction of
crunchy, paper thin "bread" that is so unappetizing that it has to be covered up by a feable
excuse for tomato sauce and (what appear to be) rotten, overcooked herbs like fresh basil leaves.
And no, I don't like four large lumps of grainy mozzarella placed confusingly on the top. Grate
your cheese, please. And give me some meat baby!

I grew up on the "pizza that nobody wants". There is nothing better than good dough that is nicely
browned with a minimilist topping. The pizza hut (or other) style with an inch of mixed stuff on
top is known as "kid's pizza" by everyone I know. Fortunately the "pizza that nobody wants" is
readily available in my area and is so popular that there are waiting lines on Friday nights.

I also grew up on the "pizza that nobody wants". Funny, friends & family request my homemade pizza
when I invite them for dinner. DH & BIL refuse to eat take-out pizza-- spoiled are they on "the good
stuff". readah

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|| Hello gorgeous people,
||
|| Just wondering....... seeing I'm considering ordering a Pizza for tea.
||
|| If you *had* to order a Pizza & have it delivered............ who would you choose? ie, which
|| companies do the best pizzas?
||
|| eg, I go with Pizza Hut. I like their thin/crispy bases.
||
||
|| You might go Dominoes or some other.
||

Mama's on North Coast of Brisbane

--
"Pooh," said Rabbit kindly, "you haven't any brain." "I know," said Pooh humbly.

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moi said:

Years ago, when I lived in Ithaca NY, my fave pizza joint was Vinny's in CollegeTown. Vinny made
pizzas with every topping you could imagine. But he was especially proud of his Margherita. The
key to this stuff is using high quality ingredients. Most places don't come close.

I should probably mention that Vinny's is no longer there, just in case anyone was tempted to go
looking for it.

--
Julian Vrieslander

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Julian Vrieslander said:

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John Gaughan said:

Seriously, though, pizza without meat is like a hamburger without the burger, like a chicken
sandwich without the chicken, etc.

I'm not a vegetarian, but I really like a well-made Pizza Margherita. A thick chewy crust, lots of
scratch-made tomato sauce, real mozarella, and shreds of fresh basil. That's all, no meat. Couple
it with a cold beer and you've got a little glimpse of heaven.

Years ago, when I lived in Ithaca NY, my fave pizza joint was Vinny's in CollegeTown. Vinny made
pizzas with every topping you could imagine. But he was especially proud of his Margherita. The key
to this stuff is using high quality ingredients. Most places don't come close.

But pizza is such a personal thing. So many different styles, so many opinions...

--
Julian Vrieslander

I don't remember Vinney's - Dryden Rd., College Ave, where? There used to be a place across the
street from Morrie's that had really good pizza. I think the best, though, were probably on the
south end of town near the inlet. Of course, everyone knows that the absolutely best pizza is
still in Utica.

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Wish I could help. In my neck of the woods, the best pizza I've found is

Round Table --- which tells you something about my neck of the woods --- and I've been
particularly unimpressed with Papa John's, which we occasionally order in at my office.

Since moving to CA, I've had Round Table a few times, and have personally been unimpressed. I've
tried lots of pizzas of all different types from different places, and my favorite is the Pizza Hut
pan crust. Maybe not purist, traditional pizza, but it's what I like.

Julian Vrieslander said:

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John Gaughan said:

Seriously, though, pizza without meat is like a hamburger without the burger, like a chicken
sandwich without the chicken, etc.

I'm not a vegetarian, but I really like a well-made Pizza Margherita. A thick chewy crust, lots of
scratch-made tomato sauce, real mozarella, and shreds of fresh basil. That's all, no meat. Couple
it with a cold beer and you've got a little glimpse of heaven.

Years ago, when I lived in Ithaca NY, my fave pizza joint was Vinny's in CollegeTown. Vinny made
pizzas with every topping you could imagine. But he was especially proud of his Margherita. The
key to this stuff is using high quality ingredients. Most places don't come close.

But pizza is such a personal thing. So many different styles, so many opinions...

I love a Margherita pizza as well, but strongly prefer it on a wafer thin crust.
--
Alan

"If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the religion, and avoid the people, you might bet-
ter stay home."
-- James Michener

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Take this man to Domino's or Papa John's. He can die happy!

Wayne

He-e-e-ey-y, I represent that remark! Papa John's makes the best thin crust around here. There's a
nearby Italian deli that's touted but their base sauce seemed to be plain ol' tomato sauce. We
love Papa John's. So there! :-P

Well, I'm glad it's good there, but it's certainly not here, although I've only tried one of their
places. Maybe some of the other stores are better.

Wayne

peecee said:

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Hello gorgeous people,

Just wondering....... seeing I'm considering ordering a Pizza for tea.

If you *had* to order a Pizza & have it delivered............ who would you choose? ie, which
companies do the best pizzas?

eg, I go with Pizza Hut. I like their thin/crispy bases.

You might go Dominoes or some other.

Mama's on North Coast of Brisbane

Ideally, I would fly to Italy for pizza, but there is a great place in Fitzroy just as good. I
believe every pizza should have fresh rocket on the topping... mmmm

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Julian Vrieslander said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

John Gaughan said:

Seriously, though, pizza without meat is like a hamburger without the burger, like a chicken
sandwich without the chicken, etc.

I'm not a vegetarian, but I really like a well-made Pizza Margherita. A thick chewy crust, lots
of scratch-made tomato sauce, real mozarella, and shreds of fresh basil. That's all, no meat.
Couple it with a cold beer and you've got a little glimpse of heaven.

Years ago, when I lived in Ithaca NY, my fave pizza joint was Vinny's in CollegeTown. Vinny made
pizzas with every topping you could imagine. But he was especially proud of his Margherita. The
key to this stuff is using high quality ingredients. Most places don't come close.

But pizza is such a personal thing. So many different styles, so many opinions...

I love a Margherita pizza as well, but strongly prefer it on a wafer thin crust.
--
Alan

That makes two of us Alan. Actually I've never seen a Margherita pizza on a thick crust. We used to
have a great Neapolitan-style pizza place here. It was purchased by a San Diego-style pizza place
but they will still make pizza in the Naples-style if one asks nicely. I always have the Margherita.

Sandy Eggo is a wasteland of "San Diego Style" pizza. It has a thick chewy (need powerful jaw
muscles and strong molars) crust and an inch of gunk on top. Nasty - my opinion of course.

Charlie

readah said:

I also grew up on the "pizza that nobody wants". Funny, friends & family request my homemade pizza
when I invite them for dinner. DH & BIL refuse to eat take-out pizza-- spoiled are they on "the
good stuff".

I grew up on no pizza, as my parents considered it junk food, with too much cheese and grease. After
I learned how to make the "pizza that nobody wants", I fed it to my parents, then in the 80's. They
were sceptical, but ate it to be polite, with, I might add, a knife and fork (my father said it was
too oldfashioned to eat with his hands, and I countered that that meant he was too modern, as before
knives and forks, there were hands). I just gloated with pride when they finished it happily and
each had seconds. blacksalt

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First of all, I wouldn't order from Dominoes if it was the last pizza place on earth. Dominoes has
bad pizza, in my opinion, and that is enough reason to avoid them. The other reason is that
Dominoes is aligned with some extreme right-wing religious groups, and part of your purchase price
ends up funding law suites for political causes like forcing schools to teach creationism. The
Thomas More Law Center was established by Dominoes founder, Tom Monaghan and is housed in the
Dominoes headquarters in Ann Arbor, Michigan. Thomas More Law Center is extremely anti-gay. Thomas
More lists Rick Santorum and Alan Keyes among its board members and supplies guest attorneys to
Fox News network shows such as Hannity and Colmes and the O'Reilly Factor.

Aside from them having absolutely crappy pizza, I refuse to order from Dominoes for exactly the
reasons that you site. I'd rather my money not go to support such causes.

I am with you 100% on this one.

Go local for pizza.

in article [email hidden], Vox Humana at
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I see no way to reconcile the statement that you posted from Snopes.com site with the fact that
Monaghan owns nearly 27% of the company. Furthermore, Dominos operates a 501 -3-c corporation
called the "Domino's Farms Petting Farm and Event Center." If you look at the IRS 990 form filed
by this corporation at www.Guidestar.org, (see Schedule A, section 5, page 18) you will begin to
see the tight web of shell companies headed by Monaghan. He is on the board of directors. The farm
"leases at no cost" it's equipment from another corporation headed by Monaghan. The land and
buildings are owned by another corporation also headed by Monaghan. The Dominos Farms Petting Farm
and Event Center is headquartered in the Domino's world headquarters in Ann Arbor Michigan. This
farm and event center refused to rent their facilities to NOW for a function. Technically, you
could say that Domino's had nothing to do with this, but in reality, they did.

And who made Snopes.com the end-all-know-it-all authority on such things? Why should I believe
them???? Who are they? I give them no more or less credibility than I give any other "news" source.

Dominoes pizza is garbage. That's reason enough for me not to buy it.

The fact that the CEO of the company, (Past or present, I don't care) openly

choice not to support him or his company.