Juicing - Acid Reflux Help???

Stop consuming most grains, especially the ones with gluten like wheat & rye. These stop and plug up
your digestion causing back pressure. Heal your hiatal hernia to an acceptable level and change your
pH levels so your digestion works better. Usually magnesium, sodium and potasium works to lower your
body acid levels. This can take months to effect.

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Hi all,

Can anyone tell me how to rid myself of Acid Reflux with natural juices?

What

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ingredients, etc. Please respond. Thank you.

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Subject: Juicing - Acid Reflux Help???
From: [email hidden] (Chat328585)
Date: 12/25/03 8:23 PM Eastern Standard Time
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Hi all,

Can anyone tell me how to rid myself of Acid Reflux with natural juices? What ingredients, etc.
Please respond. Thank you.

Fresh, home made juices help to alkalinize the body. By themselves, juices cannot heal a hiatal
hernia or stop acid reflux.

To heal a hiatal hernia and stop acid reflux, you must:

Stop eating in the manner that you promote indigestion. Arrange your meals so that you eat mono
meals. That is, one type of food at a sitting. Fruit, protein, or carbohydrate but do not mix them.
Also, use some good digestive enzymes as a digestive aid.

Alkalinize your dietary. A sick body is acidic. A healthy body is alkaline. Most fresh, uncooked
foods are alkaline. Most grains are acidic. All meats are acidic. Juicing helps greatly here. Check
you saliva pH with narrow range pH paper. Healthy saliva will be slightly alkaline when eating
carbohydrates.

Begin a detoxifying regimine.

The acid reflux can be stopped within days, and the hiatal hernia healed within months.

DrC PhD

Just to clarify. Even though a lemon may be very acidic, it produces an alkaline effect / response
in the body.

The hiatal hernia will probably never go away but by getting it under control you will improve it
and live much better with it. The alternative is to continue the way you are and learn to
unintentionally vomit regularly as it gets worse. Arthritis, tendonitis and many other auto-immune
diseases may become your friend.

Go see a doctor about it. They know nothing about this. Watch your wallet carefully. Surgery is just
a bad patch and makes the damage permanent.

Drink room temp water (about 8 oz) in the morning and then bounce on your heels, pulling the
herniated valve back down through the diaphram. This may help some if done regularly.

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Subject: Juicing - Acid Reflux Help??? From: [email hidden] (Chat328585) Date: 12/25/03 8:23
PM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: <[email hidden]>

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Hi all,

Can anyone tell me how to rid myself of Acid Reflux with natural juices? What ingredients, etc.
Please respond. Thank you.

Fresh, home made juices help to alkalinize the body. By themselves,

juices

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cannot heal a hiatal hernia or stop acid reflux.

To heal a hiatal hernia and stop acid reflux, you must:

Stop eating in the manner that you promote indigestion. Arrange your meals

so

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that you eat mono meals. That is, one type of food at a sitting. Fruit, protein, or carbohydrate
but do not mix them. Also, use some good

digestive

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enzymes as a digestive aid.

Alkalinize your dietary. A sick body is acidic. A healthy body is

alkaline.

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Most fresh, uncooked foods are alkaline. Most grains are acidic. All

meats

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are acidic. Juicing helps greatly here. Check you saliva pH with narrow range pH

paper.

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Healthy saliva will be slightly alkaline when eating carbohydrates.

Begin a detoxifying regimine.

The acid reflux can be stopped within days, and the hiatal hernia healed

within

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months.

DrC PhD

That is just as the surgeon described it! I have not heard about the vomitting disability. This
makes total sense.

Boy these alternative surgeons can really be a no-no. People should stick to mainstream natural
medicine whenever possible.

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Surgery is just a bad patch and makes the damage permanent.

Sadly, very, very true. Ever had your stomach pulled up above your

diaphram

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and re-constructed as many have had for a hiatal hernia?

At least they tell you that you will never be able to vomit again.

DrC PhD.

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Subject: Re: Juicing - Acid Reflux Help??? From: "Gymmy Bob" [email hidden] Date: 12/26/03 8:21
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Just to clarify. Even though a lemon may be very acidic, it produces an alkaline effect /
response in the body.

True. The citric acid makes the lemon test acidic to the chemist, but in the body the minerals
will test to be alkaline. Only the allopath doesn't know the difference or really give a [censored].

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The hiatal hernia will probably never go away

Can't agree here. The hiatal hernia is like having two stomachs. A pre-stomach prior to your
normal stomach wherein the tissues of the throat have changed into psuedo-stomach cells to avoid
being digested by the gastric contents and the pepsin.

Once you have stopped the indigestion, corrected the toxemia, and allowed the sphincter valve
which shuts off the stomach from the throat to renew its ability to function, you will not have a
hiatal hernia. What you will have is a very real tendency to get it again if you fail to maintain
your health.

"Tendency to get it again" -- nope, it didn't go away. The s/s merely diminished. The cardiac
sphincter may or may not function as it ideally should, but that's certainly quite different than a
hiatal hernia.

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Arthritis, tendonitis and many other auto-immune diseases may become your friend.

These dis-eases are typical of metabolic acidosis which affects nearly all Americans and those who
eat and live like Americans.

You need to differentiate between the various kinds of arthritis -- osteoarthritis is a result of
use over time -- not at all like rheumatoid arthritis. And to classify tendonitis as an auto-immune
disease ignores the fact that repetitive stress & traumatic injuries cause it.

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Go see a doctor about it. They know nothing about this.

True enough.

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Watch your wallet carefully.

True again.

The medical gods do know how to charge. Inflation may be only 2% but your medical bill will go up
15 to 20% or more per year.

Part of these increases can be attributed to the spiraling cost of malpractice insurance -- the
legal gods know how to get some pretty impressive money out of doctors, hospitals, & other health
care providers.

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Surgery is just a bad patch and makes the damage permanent.

Sadly, very, very true. Ever had your stomach pulled up above your diaphram and re-constructed as
many have had for a hiatal hernia?

The surgery consists of repairing the hernia -- much simpler.

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At least they tell you that you will never be able to vomit again.

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Drink room temp water (about 8 oz) in the morning and then bounce on your heels, pulling the
herniated valve back down through the diaphram. This may help some if done regularly.

Don't know about that, but I do believe in "lymphasizing" whereby you bounce on a mini trampoline
for about 10 minutes a day to promote lymphatic movement.

Any activity where the muscles are contracting (the most effective way to move lymphatic fluids
through the lymphatic system) will do.

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The movement of the blood is esential for providing the elements of life.

The movement of the lymph is essential for the removing the eliminations of life.

Failure to allow the lymph to move for even 24 hours results in death for the human. We suffocate
and die in our own uneliminated cellular waste.

As evidenced by lymphedema, localized impairment of lymphatic fluid movement does not cause death in
24 hours. The only time the entire lymphatic system would stop would be if the person died -- not
vice versa.

Michele I ENJOY being a cranky [censored].

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Subject: Juicing - Acid Reflux Help??? From: [email hidden] (Chat328585) Date: 12/25/03 8:23
PM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: <[email hidden]>

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Hi all,

Can anyone tell me how to rid myself of Acid Reflux with natural juices? What ingredients, etc.
Please respond. Thank you.

Fresh, home made juices help to alkalinize the body. By themselves, juices cannot heal a hiatal
hernia or stop acid reflux.

To heal a hiatal hernia and stop acid reflux, you must:

Stop eating in the manner that you promote indigestion. Arrange your meals so that you eat mono
meals. That is, one type of food at a sitting. Fruit, protein, or carbohydrate but do not mix them.
Also, use some good digestive enzymes as a digestive aid.

Alkalinize your dietary. A sick body is acidic. A healthy body is alkaline.

A common alt health myth. The pH of the body is very tightly controlled, and the only thing that
really changes much in acidity is the urine. Your blood can only range from a pH of about 7.2 to
7.6 (normal is 7.4). All of these are slightly alkaline, and if your blood pH goes outside those
ranges for long, the undertaker has a new customer.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always
correct. "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing on my
shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

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Subject: Re: Juicing - Acid Reflux Help??? From: "Gymmy Bob" [email hidden] Date: 12/26/03
8:21 PM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: <[email hidden]>

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"Tendency to get it again" -- nope, it didn't go away. The s/s merely diminished. The cardiac
sphincter may or may not function as it ideally should, but that's certainly quite different than
a hiatal hernia.

You clearly cannot distinquish cause and effect. The constant indigestion puts pressure upon the
cardiac sphincter valve. The indigestion breeds toxemia and weaking of the valve. Result? The
stomach gastric juice is allowed to contact the cells of the esophagus. In response, the cells
change to survive and resemble stomach tissue. The individual then develops two stomachs...a pre
stomach and the real stomach. This is the hiatal hernia.

Michele must be a blonde ( my apologies to other blondes who have chosen to use thier brains.)

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You need to differentiate between the various kinds of arthritis -- osteoarthritis is a result of
use over time -- not at all like rheumatoid arthritis. And to classify tendonitis as an auto-
immune disease ignores the fact that repetitive stress & traumatic injuries cause it.

No I do not. In the beginning there were only 5 kinds of arthritis. Today there are still only 5
kinds of arthritis.

All the billions of dollars going into arthritis research has resulted in one thing. Not the cause
of arthritis. Not a "cure" for arthritis. What we have is that the rhumetologist can now diagonse
100 different forms of arthritis. BIG DEAL!!

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Part of these increases can be attributed to the spiraling cost of malpractice insurance -- the
legal gods know how to get some pretty impressive money out of doctors, hospitals, & other health
care providers.

I agree that malpractice insurance increases are an abomnation. Yet they are insuring a false theory
of disease. What else could you expect?

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The surgery consists of repairing the hernia -- much simpler.

Are you really that stupid? The "much simpler" repairing of the hernia is the cutting out of the
esophagus and pulling the stomach up above the diaphram.

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Any activity where the muscles are contracting (the most effective way to move lymphatic fluids
through the lymphatic system) will do.

Dumb and dumber. Clearly you have not read any of the published scientific literature published by
those MDs who study the lymphatic sysem.

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As evidenced by lymphedema, localized impairment of lymphatic fluid movement does not cause death
in 24 hours. The only time the entire lymphatic system would stop would be if the person died --
not vice versa.

Dumb, dummer, and dummest.

Even the American Indian knew how to do this. The Indian would give away all his personal
possessions. He would then go out to the burial grounds and proceed to do what is necessary to stop
the flow of lymph. He would then die, and his relatives would come an bury him the next day.

Prisoners of war have done the same thing when imprisoned to shorten their misery.

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Michele I ENJOY being a cranky [censored].

You are not only cranky but an ignorant, misinformed [censored].

DrC PhD.

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>Subject: Re: Juicing - Acid Reflux Help??? From: "Gymmy Bob" [email hidden] Date: 12/26/03
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"Tendency to get it again" -- nope, it didn't go away. The s/s merely diminished. The cardiac
sphincter may or may not function as it ideally should, but that's certainly quite different
than a hiatal hernia.

You clearly cannot distinquish cause and effect. The constant indigestion puts pressure upon the
cardiac sphincter valve. The indigestion breeds toxemia and weaking of the valve. Result? The
stomach gastric juice is allowed to contact the cells of the esophagus. In response, the cells
change to survive and resemble stomach tissue. The individual then develops two stomachs...a pre
stomach and the real stomach. This is the hiatal hernia.

Your misinformed definition of a hiatal hernia shows us your lack of A&P background. Not surprising
in light of the other BS you post here..... Perhaps you should actually look up what a herniation of
the diaphragm is before making a jackass out of yourself. Cells do not mutate from those of one
bodily structure into another, dumbass.

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Michele must be a blonde ( my apologies to other blondes who have chosen to use thier brains.)

And you consistently show yourself to be quite clueless about most subjects -- although your
spelling of "their" in a sentence where you claim someone else isn't using their brain is an amusing
indication of your stupidity.

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You need to differentiate between the various kinds of arthritis -- osteoarthritis is a result
of use over time -- not at all like rheumatoid arthritis. And to classify tendonitis as an auto-
immune disease ignores the fact that repetitive stress & traumatic injuries cause it.

No I do not. In the beginning there were only 5 kinds of arthritis. Today there are still only 5
kinds of arthritis.

All the billions of dollars going into arthritis research has resulted in one thing. Not the cause
of arthritis. Not a "cure" for arthritis. What we have is that the rhumetologist can now diagonse
100 different forms of arthritis. BIG DEAL!!

I see -- you actually don't understand there are different types of arthritis & not every one is an
auto-immune disorder. There isn't *one* cause of arthritis & your inability to realize that speaks
volumes about your ignorance WRT the condition. Your claim that tendonitis is an auto-immune disease
is laughable & only shows that you don't understand the mechanisms which cause the problem. You need
to find a library or bookstore where you can remedy your lack of basic health care knowledge --
there are no doubt some children's coloring books that you could check out that would increase the
miniscule scope of your familiarity of the human body & its pathologies.

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Part of these increases can be attributed to the spiraling cost of malpractice insurance -- the
legal gods know how to get some pretty impressive money out of doctors, hospitals, & other
health care providers.

I agree that malpractice insurance increases are an abomnation. Yet they are insuring a false
theory of disease. What else could you expect?

Your theory of diseases is based on ideas that can't hold up under examination. The invention of
microscopes alone dug a hole & buried most of your "there are no germs" nonsense.

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The surgery consists of repairing the hernia -- much simpler.

Are you really that stupid? The "much simpler" repairing of the hernia is the cutting out of the
esophagus and pulling the stomach up above the diaphram.

Where did you glean this tidbit of misinformation?? The esophagus is NOT "cut out" -- but it isn't
surprising that you'd think such a thing because your knowledge of the subject could be written on a
postage stamp, with plenty of room left blank.

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Any activity where the muscles are contracting (the most effective way to move lymphatic fluids
through the lymphatic system) will do.

Dumb and dumber. Clearly you have not read any of the published scientific literature published by
those MDs who study the lymphatic sysem.

Skeletal muscle movement provides most of the impetus for the normal movement of lymphatic fluid.
Many of the lymphatic vessels are not superficial, but deep within the muscles. You need to study a
bit of elementary A&P, Dr. Know-nothing.

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As evidenced by lymphedema, localized impairment of lymphatic fluid movement does not cause
death in 24 hours. The only time the entire lymphatic system would stop would be if the person
died -- not vice versa.

Dumb, dummer, and dummest.

Even the American Indian knew how to do this. The Indian would give away all his personal
possessions. He would then go out to the burial grounds and proceed to do what is necessary to
stop the flow of lymph. He would then die, and his relatives would come an bury him the next day.

Prisoners of war have done the same thing when imprisoned to shorten their misery.

Such swill -- "proceed to do what is necessary to stop the flow of lymph" -- idiot, that's
impossible unless the person is actually dead. If the person kills themselves, of course the
lymphatic fluid stops -- along with the circulation of the blood, the beating of the heart, the
exchange of O2 & nutrients for cellular waste. Telling lies about Native American practice & POW's
in a pathetic attempt to embellish your misinformed parody of knowledge is completely disgusting &
you should be ashamed of yourself.

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Michele I ENJOY being a cranky [censored].

You are not only cranky but an ignorant, misinformed [censored].

DrC PhD.

Better you should spend some time learning the basics of A&P, pharmacology, surgical procedures, &
pathology instead of displaying your stunning lack of intelligence & education as you continue to do
time & time again. Your "PhD." needs to be in quotation marks, because it is just as fictitious as
the drivel you present in lieu of facts. You proudly wear your idiocy like a shiny badge -- instead
of realizing it's a label that identifies you as a misinformed simpleton extraordinaire. No doubt
you will continue to do so.

Michele I ENJOY being a cranky [censored].

[email hidden] (Michele) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

My apologies to all the nurses out there for what I am about to write. This is very important, and
since I am married to a nurse, ever more important.

I am reading a non filtered newsgroup where I have to put up with the insults of the
quackwatch group.

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Your misinformed definition of a hiatal hernia shows us your lack of A&P background. Not
surprising in light of the other BS you post here..... Perhaps you should actually look up what a
herniation of the diaphragm is before making a jackass out of yourself. Cells do not mutate from
those of one bodily structure into another, dumbass.

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Michele must be a blonde ( my apologies to other blondes who have chosen to use thier brains.)

Please change thier to their. You are still a mis-informed cranky [censored].

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And you consistently show yourself to be quite clueless about most subjects -- although your
spelling of "their" in a sentence where you claim someone else isn't using their brain is an
amusing indication of your stupidity.

Typo, not stupidity. It was stupid of you to assume what I typed was not a typo. Typical of dumb,
cranky, [censored] who have no clue as to what is going on.

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Your theory of diseases is based on ideas that can't hold up under examination. The invention of
microscopes alone dug a hole & buried most of your "there are no germs" nonsense.

Actually, the proper use of the microscope is what buried your germ theory of disease. Be'champ and
Bernard proved this way, way , way back in 1870. Even Pasteur admitted it with his deathbed
confession that "Bernard was right. The bacteria are nothing, the soil is everything."

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Any activity where the muscles are contracting (the most effective way to move lymphatic
fluids through the lymphatic system) will do.

Dumb and dumber. Clearly you have not read any of the published scientific literature published
by those MDs who study the lymphatic sysem.

I will stay with dumb and dumber. This cranky, dumb blonde has no knowledge of the lymphatic system
or how it works.

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Skeletal muscle movement provides most of the impetus for the normal movement of lymphatic fluid.
Many of the lymphatic vessels are not superficial, but deep within the muscles. You need to study
a bit of elementary A&P, Dr. Know-nothing.

Again, read what those who study the lymphatics have to say. You are quite mis-informed.

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As evidenced by lymphedema, localized impairment of lymphatic fluid movement does not cause
death in 24 hours. The only time the entire lymphatic system would stop would be if the person
died -- not vice versa.

Dumb, dummer, and dummest.

She really does not have a clue. The most respected physiology textbook in the world agrees with
what I have said. Try reading Guyton's textbook of medical physiology.

Once again, let me apologize to all the great nurses out there. I would rather have one good,
caring, loving, nurse at my bedside that 10 MD's with their little black bags full of poisons,
potions, and lotions trying to poison me back into health.

DrC PhD.

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[email hidden] (Michele) wrote in message
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My apologies to all the nurses out there for what I am about to write. This is very important, and
since I am married to a nurse, ever more important.

I am reading a non filtered newsgroup where I have to put up with the insults of the
quackwatch group.

One doesn't have to be part of Quackwatch or any other group to spot you for the idiot you are, but
your streak of being misinformed just keeps going & going......

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Your misinformed definition of a hiatal hernia shows us your lack of A&P background. Not
surprising in light of the other BS you post here..... Perhaps you should actually look up what
a herniation of the diaphragm is before making a jackass out of yourself. Cells do not mutate
from those of one bodily structure into another, dumbass.

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Michele must be a blonde ( my apologies to other blondes who have chosen to use thier brains.)

Please change thier to their. You are still a mis-informed cranky [censored].

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And you consistently show yourself to be quite clueless about most subjects -- although your
spelling of "their" in a sentence where you claim someone else isn't using their brain is an
amusing indication of your stupidity.

Typo, not stupidity. It was stupid of you to assume what I typed was not a typo. Typical of dumb,
cranky, [censored] who have no clue as to what is going on.

When calling another person stupid, it would be expected by most intelligent people that you would
eliminate typo's, "Dr." Know-nothing. At the very least, the sentence itself should be free of
errors. You're still quite the amusing twerp to think otherwise.

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Your theory of diseases is based on ideas that can't hold up under examination. The invention of
microscopes alone dug a hole & buried most of your "there are no germs" nonsense.

Actually, the proper use of the microscope is what buried your germ theory of disease. Be'champ
and Bernard proved this way, way , way back in 1870. Even Pasteur admitted it with his deathbed
confession that "Bernard was right. The bacteria are nothing, the soil is everything."

Golly "Dr." -- it's good to know where you've gotten your misinformation -- from an era that had yet
to develop the computer, fiber optics, & many, many other ideas that those of us in the current
century utilize on an everday basis. Interesting that you feel that discoveries in science & health
care came to a screeching halt when horse & buggy was the common mode of transportation.......

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> Any activity where the muscles are contracting (the most effective way to move lymphatic
> fluids through the lymphatic system) will do.

Dumb and dumber. Clearly you have not read any of the published scientific literature
published by those MDs who study the lymphatic sysem.

I will stay with dumb and dumber. This cranky, dumb blonde has no knowledge of the lymphatic
system or how it works.

And you are quite successful at being dumb & dumber, "Dr." Your inability to refute my position WRT
the lymphatic system is noted for what it is -- your lack of knowledge on the subject.

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Skeletal muscle movement provides most of the impetus for the normal movement of lymphatic
fluid. Many of the lymphatic vessels are not superficial, but deep within the muscles. You need
to study a bit of elementary A&P, Dr. Know-nothing.

Again, read what those who study the lymphatics have to say. You are quite mis-informed.

Already have -- taught it too. Perhaps someone could explain it to you in simple terms you'd
understand.

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> As evidenced by lymphedema, localized impairment of lymphatic fluid movement does not cause
> death in 24 hours. The only time the entire lymphatic system would stop would be if the
> person died -- not vice versa.

Dumb, dummer, and dummest.

She really does not have a clue. The most respected physiology textbook in the world agrees with
what I have said. Try reading Guyton's textbook of medical physiology.

"The most respected physiology textbook in the world"? LOLOLOL! Right there you've exposed yourself
as the sad little buffoon you are -- as if any one book would be referred to as such!

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Once again, let me apologize to all the great nurses out there. I would rather have one good,
caring, loving, nurse at my bedside that 10 MD's with their little black bags full of poisons,
potions, and lotions trying to poison me back into health.

You *should* apologize to nurses everywhere -- for your overwhelming ignorance & your unwillingness
to correct it. "Loving"? Get "loving" from family & friends -- health care professionals are there
to perform a service, to provide care, to educate their patients. And since nurses administer the
meds, assist with the surgeries, & provide treatments prescribed by the doctors you say poison
their patients -- you've once again demonstrated that your understanding of health & medical care
is non-existent.

The mail order diploma press where you got your "doctorate" for $25 may be demanding you return it
soon -- you're making them look bad.

Michele I ENJOY being a cranky [censored].

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[email hidden] (Michele) wrote in message
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My apologies to all the nurses out there for what I am about to write. This is very important, and
since I am married to a nurse, ever more important.

I am reading a non filtered newsgroup where I have to put up with the insults of the
quackwatch group.

Aww, poor you. How tragic that you must 'put up' with this. Your wounds are self-inflicted, Chuck --
if you didn't post such reams of folderol, you wouldn't take flak for it.

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Michele must be a blonde ( my apologies to other blondes who have chosen to use thier brains.)

Please change thier to their. You are still a mis-informed cranky [censored].

Glass houses, Chuck.

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And you consistently show yourself to be quite clueless about most subjects -- although your
spelling of "their" in a sentence where you claim someone else isn't using their brain is an
amusing indication of your stupidity.

Typo, not stupidity. It was stupid of you to assume what I typed was not a typo. Typical of dumb,
cranky, [censored] who have no clue as to what is going on.

And then you corrected her misspelling of "their" even though she had it right in a later paragraph,
so there you are, assuming that what she typed was not a typo. Hypocrite.

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Your theory of diseases is based on ideas that can't hold up under examination. The invention of
microscopes alone dug a hole & buried most of your "there are no germs" nonsense.

Actually, the proper use of the microscope is what buried your germ theory of disease. Be'champ and
Bernard proved this way, way , way back in 1870. Even Pasteur admitted it with his deathbed
confession that "Bernard was right. The bacteria are nothing, the soil is everything."

I have seen no evidence that the supposed "quotation" from Pasteur is genuine.

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I will stay with dumb and dumber. This cranky, dumb blonde has no knowledge of the lymphatic system
or how it works.

Glass houses again.

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Once again, let me apologize to all the great nurses out there. I would rather have one good,
caring, loving, nurse at my bedside that 10 MD's with their little black bags full of poisons,
potions, and lotions trying to poison me back into health.

Yes, Chuck, but just because you're nuts doesn't mean we should all join you.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always
correct. "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing on my
shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

Don't let them get you down. You are a wealth of information here and many have much respect for
you. Do not destroy that Godlike image for yourself.

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My apologies to all the nurses out there for what I am about to write. This is very important, and
since I am married to a nurse, ever more important.

I am reading a non filtered newsgroup where I have to put up with the insults of the
quackwatch group.

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Your misinformed definition of a hiatal hernia shows us your lack of A&P background. Not
surprising in light of the other BS you post here..... Perhaps you should actually look up what
a herniation of the diaphragm is before making a jackass out of yourself. Cells do not mutate
from those of one bodily structure into another, dumbass.

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Michele must be a blonde ( my apologies to other blondes who have chosen to use thier brains.)

Please change thier to their. You are still a mis-informed cranky [censored].

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And you consistently show yourself to be quite clueless about most subjects -- although your
spelling of "their" in a sentence where you claim someone else isn't using their brain is an
amusing indication of your stupidity.

Typo, not stupidity. It was stupid of you to assume what I typed was not a typo. Typical of dumb,
cranky, [censored] who have no clue as to what is going on.

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Your theory of diseases is based on ideas that can't hold up under examination. The invention of
microscopes alone dug a hole & buried most of your "there are no germs" nonsense.

Actually, the proper use of the microscope is what buried your germ theory of disease. Be'champ
and Bernard proved this way, way , way back in 1870. Even Pasteur admitted it with his deathbed
confession that "Bernard was right. The bacteria are nothing, the soil is everything."

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> Any activity where the muscles are contracting (the most effective

way

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> to move lymphatic fluids through the lymphatic system) will do.

Dumb and dumber. Clearly you have not read any of the published scientific literature
published by those MDs who study the lymphatic sysem.

I will stay with dumb and dumber. This cranky, dumb blonde has no knowledge of the lymphatic
system or how it works.

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Skeletal muscle movement provides most of the impetus for the normal movement of lymphatic
fluid. Many of the lymphatic vessels are not superficial, but deep within the muscles. You need
to study a bit of elementary A&P, Dr. Know-nothing.

Again, read what those who study the lymphatics have to say. You are quite mis-informed.

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> As evidenced by lymphedema, localized impairment of lymphatic fluid movement does not cause
> death in 24 hours. The only time the entire lymphatic system would stop would be if the
> person died -- not vice versa.

Dumb, dummer, and dummest.

She really does not have a clue. The most respected physiology textbook in the world agrees with
what I have said. Try reading Guyton's textbook of medical physiology.

Once again, let me apologize to all the great nurses out there. I would rather have one good,
caring, loving, nurse at my bedside that 10 MD's with their little black bags full of poisons,
potions, and lotions trying to poison me back into health.

DrC PhD.