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Why Do I Break Wheels?

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  1. Hi guys, thanks for having me on your forums. I will keep this as short as possible, and I'm sure a similar thread has existed in the past, but I really want to get everyone's opinion on this issue because I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong.

    I'm 190cm tall (6 foot 3) and I weigh in at about 73kg (~161lbs). I never do any bunny hops, I try to avoid potholes, and all that jazz, but I do cycle a lot. As a student who doesn't work in the summer, I typically train for anywhere from 75 to 150km daily. I'm not a very fast man on the flats, but I excel on the hills.

    I started cycling 5 years ago. I bought a new KHS Flite 220 for about $600. Within about a month, I had a broken spoke. Then another. And another. And so on. Eventually, I bought a set of Shimano RS-20 wheels which lasted me about 20,000km before the spokes started breaking on them. At that time, I discussed rebuilding the wheels, but my mechanic noticed a crack in the rim and advised against it. This was last season, and by this time I had already purchased my 2012 Norco CRR One. At the time, I was using the Shimano wheels because, within 2 weeks of purchasing that bike (which comes with Easton EA-30 wheels), I already had 2 broken spokes. Anyway, the Norco sales rep gave me the rear wheel from his bike (which was identical to mine), and I rode a couple thousand kilometers on it without any issue. Then it broke a spoke. I contacted Norco, who replaced the wheels for me. Now, once again, those wheels, which have only about 600km on them, have a broken spoke. All three of these most recent sets are the Easton EA-30s. The spokes are breaking in the rear, and they are breaking at the bend. If I'm not mistaken, all the broken spokes have been on the drive side.

    As I mentioned, I train a lot, but I've only ever done a couple of group rides so I don't really have anyone to compare myself to power-wise. I don't race. The hills around here aren't mountains by any stretch of the imagination, but there are a couple that are about 4km long with an average grade just over 4%, with steep sections at 10%. That said, I usually ride up several hills of this magnitude every day. When I test my power on the trainer (which I agree is not the ideal way to test), I usually put out somewhere in the 320-350 watt vicinity. This is at the intensity that I would ride up one of these hills.

    So I guess my first question is, what is going on here? Is this normal? Am I doing something wrong? Are all these wheels I've had just [censored]? Least likely of all, am I too powerful for these wheels? And my follow up is, what do I need to do to make this stop happening? Thanks for your time, and thanks again for having me on your forums.

    Cheers.

  2. You're using low-spoke count wheels, that's what's wrong. And maybe you've got a jerky pedalling technique. Or possibly the wheels weren't tensioned just as they should. But that's speculation, all we can say for sure from a distance is that you are using low spoke count wheels.
    Outside a race setting the drawbacks of low spoke counts far outweighs the aero advantage.

    Get yourself a 32 spoke rear (I prefer a thinner gauge spoke on the non-drive side). Properly built it'll last until you've worn out the brake track.

  3. "Get yourself a 32 spoke rear (I prefer a thinner gauge spoke on the non-drive side). Properly built it'll last until you've worn out the brake track."

    What he said.

    Contact Colorado Cyclist for a set of hand built 32 hole, 3X DT spoked Mavic Open Pro rims on Campy hubs. I prefer straight gauge, 14 gauge spokes for hard use/training...especially in the rear, but I built the fronts that way also. CC employs some very skilled wheel builders.

    I'm not Mario Cipollini when it comes to watts/output, but I do train and race on some really crappy roads. The above wheel build combination is almost impossible to kill and I'm 10 pounds heavier than you.

  4. Bob is spot on here, get yourself some well made 32 spoked wheels.

  5. ambal said:

    Bob is spot on here, get yourself some well made 32 spoked wheels.

    and buy quality 2.0 mm spokes 14 gauge, like DTswiss Competition p.s. i had rim's cracking on my last two rear wheels, but i weight much more than you

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