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  1. can anyone tell me how was first livng organism created.

  2. "himanshu" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    can anyone tell me how was first livng organism created.

    No.

    Frank

  3. Maybe these exerpts will help...

    "About four billion years ago, Earth was sufficiently at rest, and sufficiently in its present form,
    to be a habitable world. Within no more than half a billion years thereafter, it would appear,
    simple life had come into existence. For the remaining 3.5 billion years (three fourths of its total
    existence) Earth has been, as far as we can tell, continuously inhabited by a variety of living
    orgainisms.

    How was life first formed?

    The only possible scientific conclusion (one that does not involve supernatural action, of which we
    have no evidence whatsoever) is that random combinations of simple molecules that existed in
    Earth's atmosphere and oceans built up more complicated and still more complicated molecules.
    Eventually, molecules formed that were sufficiently complicated to possess the properties we
    associate with life.

    This is not something we can observe directly, either here on Earth, where we are spearated from the
    event by billions of years of time, or on other worlds, since the nearest habitable world must be
    separted from us by many light years of space. Nevertheless, we can obtain indirect evidence.

    To begin with, we must determine what the simple molecules that existed on the primordial Earth
    must have been. That they were the molecules that make up the ices, scientists now generally agree.
    There is some dispute on the exact combination, though. There is some dispute on the exact
    combination, though. Water was certainly present, as were molecules containing nitrogen and others
    containing carbon.

    On Jupiter and other worlds of the solar system, carbon and nitrogen are each present in combination
    with hydrogen - methane and ammonia, respectively. On Venus and Mars, carbon is present in
    cobination with oxygen (carbon dioxide), while nitrogen atoms exist in pairs as nitrogen molecules.

    There are some scientists who think the primordial atmosphere of Earth was ammonia, methane, and
    water vapor, with ammonia dissolving in large quantities in the ocean. Others think the primordial
    atmosphere of Earth was ammoinia, methane, and water vapor (Atmosphere I) at the outset, this being
    converted by natural processes, not involving life, to carbon dioxide, nitrogen and water vapor
    (Atmosphere II).

    The choice between atmospheres is not a crucial one. In either atmosphere, the atoms of hydrogen,
    carbon, nitrogen, and oxygen (which make up 99 percent of the atoms of soft tissure in any organism)
    are to be found. The atoms that make up the remainder of the tissues, including the atoms that make
    the hard tissures hard, were to be found in solutions in the primordial ocean.

    Given the simple molecuels (whichever they are), what process would be required to build up more
    complicated molecules from them? Simple collisions and random interchange of atoms would not be
    enoguh. In gerneral, the conversion of simplere molecules into more complicated ones is an energy-
    consuming change. In other words, energy, would have to be supplied to the system to make the
    change possible.

    The primordial Earth, however, had numerous sources of energy available. There was the heat of
    volcanic action, or the electrical energy of the lightning bolt, and it is quite probable that, at
    the beginning, the Earth was a more violent place than it is now, with more volcanic eruptions and
    many more thunderstorms.

    Then, too, there was the enregy of radioactivity, and, at the start, radioactive intensitites were
    greater than now because, in the billions of years that have passed sinse the Earth was formed, an
    appreciable fraction of the original supply of radioactive atoms has broken down."

    My wrist is sore maybe Ill write more later...

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    >>>from (without permission):
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    >>>The Exploding Suns The Secrets of the Supernovas Page 207-209 Isaac Asimov

    Justin

    PSCan anybody tell me the proper way to refer to someones work...

  4. jussy <[email hidden]> wrote or quoted:

    Quoted message said:

    The only possible scientific conclusion (one that does not involve supernatural action, of which
    we have no evidence whatsoever) is that random combinations of simple molecules that existed in
    Earth's atmosphere and oceans built up more complicated and still more complicated molecules.
    Eventually, molecules formed that were sufficiently complicated to possess the properties we
    associate with life.

    That is most certainly not the only possible scientific conclusion - it is an incredibly unlikely
    story - like the apocryphal 747 in the junkyard.

    *Much* more likely is that self-organising processes were involved.

    Nor need large, complex molecules be involved in the process - simple, atomic units could have been
    the basis of an evolutionary process - without combining into large molecules - by instead sticking
    together in crystalline configurations.
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  5. Sorry, I had to quit typing because my hand was getting soar. The paragraphs I posted were *not
    meant to arrive at any conclusion*, I actually quit typing when he was arriving at some reasonable
    conceptions. The paragraphs I posted were mere explorations of some ideas scientist had/have. I
    encourage you to find the book at your local library or whatnot.

    Mr. Asimov actually proceeds to find cosmic radiation as the only reasonable source for creating an
    environment that encourages the creation of elementary traits of life, theoretically of course.
    He explains the cyclic occurrences possible, and needed, by dwelling into theories on our
    magnetic field and how they are involved with cosmic radiation, seemingly the most viable source
    of energy for the building of the simple molecules needed to create the basis of life we
    perceive today.

    I would ask that Tim Tyler try to illustrate his ideas with more information. In my opinion,
    his/your post was slightly confusing and empty at best.

    Justin McKenzie

    Tim Tyler <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    jussy <[email hidden]> wrote or quoted:

    Quoted message said:

    The only possible scientific conclusion (one that does not involve supernatural action, of which
    we have no evidence whatsoever) is that random combinations of simple molecules that existed in
    Earth's atmosphere and oceans built up more complicated and still more complicated molecules.
    Eventually, molecules formed that were sufficiently complicated to possess the properties we
    associate with life.

    That is most certainly not the only possible scientific conclusion - it is an incredibly unlikely
    story - like the apocryphal 747 in the junkyard.

    *Much* more likely is that self-organising processes were involved.

    Nor need large, complex molecules be involved in the process - simple, atomic units could have
    been the basis of an evolutionary process - without combining into large molecules - by instead
    sticking together in crystalline configurations.

  6. Tim Tyler <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    That is most certainly not the only possible scientific conclusion - it is an incredibly unlikely
    story - like the apocryphal 747 in the junkyard.


    Given a large enough number of junkyards and a great enough length of time, the presence of a 747 in
    one of them is almost inevitable.

  7. Ann Morgan <[email hidden]> wrote or quoted:

    Quoted message said:

    Tim Tyler <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    That is most certainly not the only possible scientific conclusion - it is an incredibly unlikely
    story - like the apocryphal 747 in the junkyard.

    Given a large enough number of junkyards and a great enough length of time, the presence of a 747
    in one of them is almost inevitable.

    Maybe - but if there are other - more probable - approaches to construction, then there's no need to
    invoke the "junkyard hurricane" in the first place.

    After all, if you find yourself looking at a 747 the chances of it having been built by a hurricane
    in a junkyard are negligible.
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