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The Hamilton's rule debate debacle. (Was Re: Hamilton's Rule: a free lunch)

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  1. Quoted message said:

    JE:- It is exactly that point we are debating. <snip> In reality, the rule [Hamilton's] is not
    constrained until you put one of your constraints within it, explicitly as a GENERAL term. Can I
    suggest absolute organism fitness as this missing general constraint?

    PF:-

    It would please me if you stopped beating around the bush (of theoretical complaint) and instead
    regularly spelled-out (for all to see) "exactly that (by you believed to be more exact - though in
    relation to reality absurdely exact ["exact" from "ex"+"act" ~= non interactive]) point" of yours

    Quoted message said:

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    1 x "absolute organism fitness" = 1 x *grandchild* (proposed since it is 'more to The Point' than
    "fertile offspring"😉.

    JE:- You simply refuse to understand what I wrote. I defined absolute fitness. This definition
    becomes a _part_ of _one_ testable Darwinian theory. I can do more than that. Your view that one
    unit of absolute fitness = one grandchild is not my view, it is yours. One quanta of fitness is one
    fertile form reproduced, no exceptions, in Darwin's, view. if you wish to develop your view of
    absolute fitness, then fine, go ahead and do so. At the moment you have not defined anything and
    have never produced a testable view of evolution.

    Best Wishes, John Edser Independent Researcher

    PO Box 266 Church Pt NSW 2105 Australia

    [email hidden]

  2. "John Edser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]... <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    One quanta of fitness is one fertile form reproduced


    <snip>

    Am presumably asking the following question on behalf of *not just* myself:

    What new insight (into e.g. ourselves) might this *extraordinarily simple* definition help
    us to gain?

    Yours curiously asking, Peter

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