ski helmet?

there are bandana like apparel made of winter materials to keep your head warm underneath the helmet, do you have a picture of the ski helmet ?

Well I don't have a picture but this is one that caught my eye http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TRESPASS-SKYHIGH-SKIING-SNOWBOARDING-HELMET-adult-mens-ladies-ski-winter-hat-1-/181062996057?pt=UK_Sporting_Goods_Skiing_Snowboarding_Clothing_LE&var=&hash=item2a28321059

ok, its a bit overkill IMO also remember you sweat or produce more heat cycling than skying, so the helmet needs to breath that out,

Thx. I am new to cycling and thought that would have been a cunning plan! Glad I didn't buy it until asking here.

This is how I gear up when the temps go to the single digits and below:

I tried glasses - they fogged up and my face and eyes still got cold. I tried goggles, they fogged up from perspiration on my face. This visor works well to keep the face warm and does not fog up when coupled with the respirator to blow my exhaled air out beyond it. The respirator works to keep inhaled air and my face relatively warm. Getting a drink, however, is impossible. The appearance is also a little strange to onlookers.

The visor is attached using velcro strips and is removable. The helmet itself has all of the vents taped over; I used a hair dryer to shrink it and take out the wrinkles. Electrical and reflective tape cover the seams - it looks ok to me.

Today's ride was about 1.5 hours to work. I added gatorade mix to my water as an antifreeze - it still became a slushy undrinkable mess by the time I got to my destination.

maydog said:

This is how I gear up when the temps go to the single digits and below: I tried glasses - they fogged up and my face and eyes still got cold. I tried goggles, they fogged up from perspiration on my face. This visor works well to keep the face warm and does not fog up when coupled with the respirator to blow my exhaled air out beyond it. The respirator works to keep inhaled air and my face relatively warm. Getting a drink, however, is impossible. The appearance is also a little strange to onlookers.   The visor is attached using velcro strips and is removable. The helmet itself has all of the vents taped over; I used a hair dryer to shrink it and take out the wrinkles. Electrical and reflective tape cover the seams - it looks ok to me. Today's ride was about 1.5 hours to work. I added gatorade mix to my water as an antifreeze - it still became a slushy undrinkable mess by the time I got to my destination.

You'll never get through an airport security checkpoint dressed like that.

Impressive - very good ingenuity. See what you mean regarding other peoples reactions. But hey, if it works- who cares what other people think. You're doing something you love whatever the weather. Well done.

Braver than I am to ride a road bike with those tires on ice conditions. No wipeouts? And, I gotta say, you must get some looks for the gear, but I think it's pretty ingenious to come up with that.

No wipeouts yet, some close calls though. Fresh snow and small patches of ice are no problem. The traction was pretty good in that vid, and the more traveled roads are sanded and salted so they were pretty clear. I'd get studded tires, but my 20 mile commute takes long enough.

The trick to riding over ice is to keep spinning it in a low gear and very very slight steering inputs. Glare ice, compacted snow and slush are dicey, I tried to go across a windswept smooth lake and did not get too far.

The worst is going downhill in icy conditions, too much brakes guarantees a wipeout.

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Braver than I am to ride a road bike with those tires on ice conditions. No wipeouts?

There are studded/spiked tires available in a fairly wide variety of stud counts and tread depth these days.
While wipeouts remain a possibility, concern can certainly be managed at some compromise.
ANd if it's slick enough to wipe out, odds are it'll be slick enough not to give much road rash.
The Suomi Tyres w106 comes with surprisingly little increase of rolling resistance, and are grippy enough to allow safe passage of clear ice if you're remember to go easy on the steering, braking and pedalling. The tread don't do well in soft snow though.

The only studded tire I was outright unhappy with had an about 160 stud count. To me it seemed like too many to offer good rolling, but too few to offer good traction. The 240+ do roll heavy, but at least you're rewarded for your efforts with good traction.

The two with the highest stud counts from Suomi Tyres have studs that actually come to a point as opposed to the commuter oriented ones which have rounded tips, and these have absolutely amazing grip when new, even on sheer ice.
You get a fairly sharp performance drop once the studs begin to get rounded though.
Schwalbe has the Marathon Winter, which is good if you're dealing with either ice or tarmac. It does poorly on soft snow and there's been some issues about studs wearing through the casing.

I think Kenda do studded tires as well, but haven't tried any.

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I was wondering what the opinion was on wearing a ski helmet while cycling? Reason being with this cold weather they appear to provide more warmth.

Not the right protection?
You look a fool?

What do you all think?

A ski helmet will usually be rated for a higher degree of protection than a bike helmet, but it'll be heavier and warmer. If you're OK with that, then fine.

Me, I remove the pads from the helmet, which makes it fit just right with a cap on underneath if it's really cold.
But usually, taping up the front vents and digging out the earmuffs will be fine.
This winter I have the added option of the helmet cap, which admittedly is more stylish than the taped vents. Remains to be seen if/how much I miss rearward ventilation.

To any non-cyclist, you look like a fool riding anyhow, so that battle is already lost. Harsh weather cyclists seems to be less interested in the Velominati Rules than fair weather riders, so you should be "safe" from them.
Unless it looked seriously unfunctional, I can't imagine when I'd feel compelled to share my views on someone else's riding gear, at least not to them.

Wow, haven't even heard of the velominati. Learning has taken place. I don't normally care about other peoples opinions regarding appearance, but I didn't want to paint a target on myself just because I was trying to make the commute to work more comfortable. Thank you for your advice.

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this is how you ride during the winter !

I call shenanigans. No snow on the roofs, no visible breath, exposed fingers are not red ... just doesn't look that cold.

maydog said:

I call shenanigans. No snow on the roofs, no visible breath, exposed fingers are not red ... just doesn't look that cold.

Looks aren't everything. The ISO setting, aperture setting, and shutter speed setting might not have been appropriate to show condensed water vapor. Snow doesn't always come with cold temps, and we don't know how long the gloveless people in the pic were gloveless. We likewise don't know what adjustments might have been made in photo editing software to reduce finger redness. Maybe the fingers are so cold they've blanched. It's very had to pull to some information out of a photo without knowing more.

yeah it might be near 0 celsius, not the coldest situation,

anyone seen the new helmets that some pro teams are using, with less visible venting, i think they are ugly, they do look more futuristic though,

vspa said:

anyone seen the new helmets that some pro teams are using, with less visible venting, i think they are ugly, they do look more futuristic though,

They're supposed to be more aero than the typical road helmet. They also likely do not ventilate very well, and it's unlikely you'll see them used on long, hot stages this summer.

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They're supposed to be more aero than the typical road helmet. They also likely do not ventilate very well, and it's unlikely you'll see them used on long, hot stages this summer.

We've got a team order in for Giro Air Attacks this season. With most of our road races happening in the cool and often rainy spring months we're going to race the Air Attacks as much as anything for the lack of venting and more complete coverage up top. They'll likely be too warm for summer crits and then we'll stick with Giro's more conventional Aeon helmet.