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recovery from blood loss

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  1. Hi,

    I lost about 2 pints of blood 5 days ago, it was as a result of a bleed from an operation I had 2
    weeks ago. I went into hospital and was discharged 3 days ago, the doctor's felt I was doing fine,
    my haemoglobin count was a little low but that was to be expected. I was already pretty weak from
    the operation before the bleed, but after the blood loss I've been feeling really weak, just
    standing up makes me dizzy, and up till yesterday I was sleeping a lot and taking it easy.

    However last night I started doing things again (I had a commitment I just couldn't miss), and
    since then I feel very different. Before, although I was feeling weak and constantly sleepy, I felt
    otherwise well (if that makes any sense!). But since I started doing things, I've stopped feeling
    tired but started feeling quite achey and cold, and generally like I'm no longer recovering. Is
    this normal, have I just over-exerted myself? What I don't understand is why I'm no longer feeling
    tired, even though I'm feeling a lot worse in other ways. Is it an adrenaline thing? A
    psychological thing?

    Thanks.

  2. If your Hematocrit was 45% before all this started two pints would drop you to the mid thirties.
    That's a guess, but probably not too far off. You should take iron. To whatever extent your anemia
    is contributing to your symptoms will resolve more quickly.

    Peabody said:


    Hi,

    I lost about 2 pints of blood 5 days ago, it was as a result of a bleed from an operation I
    had 2 weeks ago. I went into hospital and was discharged 3 days ago, the doctor's felt I was
    doing fine, my haemoglobin count was a little low but that was to be expected. I was already
    pretty weak from the operation before the bleed, but after the blood loss I've been feeling
    really weak, just standing up makes me dizzy, and up till yesterday I was sleeping a lot and
    taking it easy.

    However last night I started doing things again (I had a commitment I just couldn't miss), and
    since then I feel very different. Before, although I was feeling weak and constantly sleepy, I
    felt otherwise well (if that makes any sense!). But since I started doing things, I've stopped
    feeling tired but started feeling quite achey and cold, and generally like I'm no longer
    recovering. Is this normal, have I just over-exerted myself? What I don't understand is why I'm
    no longer feeling tired, even though I'm feeling a lot worse in other ways. Is it an adrenaline
    thing? A psychological thing?

    Thanks.

  3. Robert A. Fink said:

    Replacement of two pints of blood, in an otherwise healthy person, should not require more than a
    couple of days.

    Why does the Red Cross require you to wait eight weeks between donations of one pint?

    Could I really donate a pint every day or two, for decades?
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  4. Dr. Fink's statement was confusing. When you lose two pints your volume replacement occurs very
    quickly. Your Hgb, however takes much longeer to return to normal, to the point where you could
    donate again. I'm sure he knows this.

    Keith F. Lynch said:


    Robert A. Fink said:

    Replacement of two pints of blood, in an otherwise healthy person, should not require more than
    a couple of days.

    Why does the Red Cross require you to wait eight weeks between donations of one pint?

    Could I really donate a pint every day or two, for decades?
    --
    Keith F. Lynch - [email hidden] - keithlynch.netkeithlynch.net I always welcome replies to my e-
    mail, postings, and web pages, but unsolicited bulk e-mail (spam) is not acceptable. Please do not
    send me HTML, "rich text," or attachments, as all such email is discarded unread.

  5. "Keith F. Lynch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Robert A. Fink said:

    Replacement of two pints of blood, in an otherwise healthy person, should not require more than
    a couple of days.

    Why does the Red Cross require you to wait eight weeks between donations of one pint?

    Could I really donate a pint every day or two, for decades?

    Obviously not. It's takes a day or two to replace the salt and water from donation of 20% of
    your blood, but it takes a week or two to replace the proteins, and a month or two to replace
    the red cells.

    Now, the last figure is obviously extremely variable. A young healthy vitamin and iron replete
    person with a very low red cell count (giving them maximum drive for replacement) can make 3% of
    total red cell mass a day or more. So in theory you could replace 2 pints (20% of total) in a week.
    In practice that doesn't happen because rate goes down as you get close to being back to normal
    (it's inverse exponential because replacement rate is proportional to relative lack), and most
    people who lose blood are not maximally healthy and optimally youthful. So that week stretches quite
    a lot. The eight weeks of the red cross gives time for all contingencies.

    Beyond that, even an iron replete person (average young man, say) has only has enough iron stores to
    replace about half their blood volume, so if you keep taking blood faster than they can eat iron,
    they begin to slow way down in red cell production after they've replaced about the fifth pint or
    so. Only iron overloaded folks can keep donating blood every couple of weeks, after the second or
    third month.

    SBH

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