Losing too fast

Stan wrote:

Gall stone in you KNEE? Hm, you DO have a serious health issue! ;D

Seriously, people higher up the weight scale DO lose faster to begin with: it will slow down to a
more normal 1-2 lbs a week when you get down towards the low 200's... There will be plateaus along
the way, and the odd week when you go up, but don't sweat it too much! And if my WW group is
anything to go by, the blokes lose better than the gals whatever they do!

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Stan <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

Background:

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Quoted message said:

I wonder if packing it on so fast has anything to do with dropping it so fast. I've been on WW
(online) for just over two months and have lost 35 lbs.

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Quoted message said:

Stan,

Here are my numbers for my first 8 weeks OP

6.4
7.2
8.4 3
9.2
10.8 4
11.2

For a total of 32.2 lbs. I started out at 332.4 It took a total of 90 weeks to reach my goal of 185
with an overall average weight loss of 1.62 lbs per week.

You will lose a lot at first, it will slow down. Stick to the plan. If you have any concerns, talk
to your physician.

As for going over your Flex Points, I have had weeks where I have been over as many as 20 Points and
maintained. It does, however, usually come back to bite me the folowing week with a small gain.

Enjoy the big numbers while you can but realize it will slow down. It took me about 20 weeks to drop
to < 2lbs per week average (I didn't exercise a lot for the first year or so) but you are doing
great. Eat your Activity Points, use your Flex Points when you want/need them and keep your diet
balanced. I find if I eat a lot of protein that my wieght loss levels off. My wife has to watch her
carbs for the same reason. Everyone is different but I am sure you will find your balance and
succeed on the plan.

--
Started Weight Watchers together February 2002: Chris
11.1/1.1/185 Pat
11.1/1.2/155 2002 combined loss 139 2003 combined loss 38.2 Total combined 177.2 lbs

Hi Stan. I was over 300 when I first started & like you I lost really fast. But when I got down
to the last 50, I slowed down considerably and I think you will also. I believe that it's
actually 1 % of your weight that you can lose safely each week, but I know I lost a bit faster
than that. Elaine K
331.4/215.6/179

Stan said:

Background:

I put on a lot of weight really fast. I had already crept up to what I thought was really fat, and
six months later, I had packed on another 50 lbs. beyond that. I discovered that my scale simply
reads "OL" once you're over 309 lbs. There were health issues, and still are, and I used that as
an excuse, but I have grown bored with leaning on that crutch - I'm tired of being fat!

I started counting calories, and found somewhere that it took about 3500 calories a day to
maintain my weight, so I was trying to keep under 3000 a day. It was coming off slowly. I had lost
17 lbs. when I spent a week with my parents (we ate at Golden Corral three times) and got home to
discover I had gained back all 17 lbs. in a week. I figured it was just water, and would come
right back off, but it didn't. I joined WeightWatchers.

I wonder if packing it on so fast has anything to do with dropping it so fast. I've been on WW
(online) for just over two months and have lost 35 lbs.

My first week, I lost 9.5 lbs. I didn't kid myself, I knew it was just water. The next week,
another 5 lbs. gone, and the week after that, 3.5 more. Now when I record my weight each week, it
keeps yelling at me for losing too fast, and offers me lectures on why that's bad. And yet, when I
recorded my weight today (lost 5 lbs. this week), in the same breath it told me to be proud that
my target points were dropping from 32 to 30 a day, having crossed below 275 lbs.

I earn activity points (and I've been more active since starting WW), but I almost always eat
them. I eat most of my Flex points each week, too. In fact, I went beyond my Flex points allotment
three weeks, once by two points!

My 32 points a day (now 30) is somewhere in the realm of 1600 calories (now 1500). It's no wonder
it's melting off, considering I was losing at 3000. I suppose I could try adding 5 points or so
over what I'm allotted, but that really seems to be defeating the program. I joined the program
because it works, and I must say it really does for me, and I confess that I'm not displeased with
the weight I've lost. I keep thinking it will slow down and I should enjoy the ride while I can.

My body has always responded well to being treated well, and yet I have almost always treated it
very badly. I got to 309 (and beyond) by treating it badly. Now I'm treating it well, and it is
responding with great joy and my knees are happier and my feet are happier and I don't have to
hold my breath while I tie my shoes and so on. I just have such a hard time believing that this is
a bad thing!

Of course, my wife, who has been on a plateau for three weeks, doesn't want to hear about it
anymore, and just tells me to shut up. Well, that and if I say my knee is bugging me, she'll say,
"Oh, it's probably gall stones from losing weight too fast." She's really very sweet...

Stan
309/273.5/199

Thanks to Kate, Chris, and Elaine for your responses. You all confirmed what I really thought about
it, that a man over 300 lbs. is just going to lose weight faster following the WW plan than, say, a
woman at 195.

My inclination was to enjoy it while it lasts, and to know that it can't keep going like this all
the way to goal (oh, wouldn't that be nice, though).

It just started to make me nervous that it gives me the dire warnings every week when I log my
weight, and the article about gallstones, saggy skin, hair loss and I don't remember what else
didn't help.

Thanks for your support! I feel better now.

Stan

Stan said:

Background:

I put on a lot of weight really fast. I had already crept up to what I thought was really fat, and
six months later, I had packed on another 50 lbs. beyond that. I discovered that my scale simply
reads "OL" once you're over 309 lbs. There were health issues, and still are, and I used that as an
excuse, but I have grown bored with leaning on that crutch - I'm tired of being fat!

I started counting calories, and found somewhere that it took about 3500 calories a day to maintain
my weight, so I was trying to keep under 3000 a day. It was coming off slowly. I had lost 17 lbs.
when I spent a week with my parents (we ate at Golden Corral three times) and got home to discover
I had gained back all 17 lbs. in a week. I figured it was just water, and would come right back
off, but it didn't. I joined WeightWatchers.

I wonder if packing it on so fast has anything to do with dropping it so fast. I've been on WW
(online) for just over two months and have lost 35 lbs.

My first week, I lost 9.5 lbs. I didn't kid myself, I knew it was just water. The next week,
another 5 lbs. gone, and the week after that, 3.5 more. Now when I record my weight each week, it
keeps yelling at me for losing too fast, and offers me lectures on why that's bad. And yet, when I
recorded my weight today (lost 5 lbs. this week), in the same breath it told me to be proud that my
target points were dropping from 32 to 30 a day, having crossed below 275 lbs.

I earn activity points (and I've been more active since starting WW), but I almost always eat them.
I eat most of my Flex points each week, too. In fact, I went beyond my Flex points allotment three
weeks, once by two points!

My 32 points a day (now 30) is somewhere in the realm of 1600 calories (now 1500). It's no wonder
it's melting off, considering I was losing at 3000. I suppose I could try adding 5 points or so
over what I'm allotted, but that really seems to be defeating the program. I joined the program
because it works, and I must say it really does for me, and I confess that I'm not displeased with
the weight I've lost. I keep thinking it will slow down and I should enjoy the ride while I can.

My body has always responded well to being treated well, and yet I have almost always treated it
very badly. I got to 309 (and beyond) by treating it badly. Now I'm treating it well, and it is
responding with great joy and my knees are happier and my feet are happier and I don't have to
hold my breath while I tie my shoes and so on. I just have such a hard time believing that this is
a bad thing!

Of course, my wife, who has been on a plateau for three weeks, doesn't want to hear about it
anymore, and just tells me to shut up. Well, that and if I say my knee is bugging me, she'll say,
"Oh, it's probably gall stones from losing weight too fast." She's really very sweet...

Stan
309/273.5/199

while you have lost fast, the losses are slowing down. I think I read that
the recommended was up to 2 pounds or 1 percent of your weight so I wouldn't
worry about it. if you are following program and you feel better that is
what matters. Keep in mind there will probably be a point where they really
slow down and that is normal, good luck, Lee
Stan <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Background:

I put on a lot of weight really fast. I had already crept up to what I thought was really fat, and
six months later, I had packed on another 50 lbs. beyond that. I discovered that my scale simply
reads "OL" once you're over 309 lbs. There were health issues, and still are, and I used that as
an excuse, but I have grown bored with leaning on that crutch - I'm tired of being fat!

I started counting calories, and found somewhere that it took about 3500 calories a day to
maintain my weight, so I was trying to keep under 3000 a day. It was coming off slowly. I had lost
17 lbs. when I spent a week with my parents (we ate at Golden Corral three times) and got home to
discover I had gained back all 17 lbs. in a week. I figured it was just water, and would come
right back off, but it didn't. I joined WeightWatchers.

I wonder if packing it on so fast has anything to do with dropping it so fast. I've been on WW
(online) for just over two months and have lost 35 lbs.

My first week, I lost 9.5 lbs. I didn't kid myself, I knew it was just water. The next week,
another 5 lbs. gone, and the week after that, 3.5 more. Now when I record my weight each week, it
keeps yelling at me for losing too fast, and offers me lectures on why that's bad. And yet, when I
recorded my weight today (lost 5 lbs. this week), in the same breath it told me to be proud that
my target points were dropping from 32 to 30 a day, having crossed below 275 lbs.

I earn activity points (and I've been more active since starting WW), but I almost always eat
them. I eat most of my Flex points each week, too. In fact, I went beyond my Flex points allotment
three weeks, once by two points!

My 32 points a day (now 30) is somewhere in the realm of 1600 calories (now 1500). It's no wonder
it's melting off, considering I was losing at 3000. I suppose I could try adding 5 points or so
over what I'm allotted, but that really seems to be defeating the program. I joined the program
because it works, and I must say it really does for me, and I confess that I'm not displeased with
the weight I've lost. I keep thinking it will slow down and I should enjoy the ride while I can.

My body has always responded well to being treated well, and yet I have almost always treated it
very badly. I got to 309 (and beyond) by treating it badly. Now I'm treating it well, and it is
responding with great joy and my knees are happier and my feet are happier and I don't have to
hold my breath while I tie my shoes and so on. I just have such a hard time believing that this is
a bad thing!

Of course, my wife, who has been on a plateau for three weeks, doesn't want to hear about it
anymore, and just tells me to shut up. Well, that and if I say my knee is bugging me, she'll say,
"Oh, it's probably gall stones from losing weight too fast." She's really very sweet...

Stan
309/273.5/199

Stan said:

Thanks to Kate, Chris, and Elaine for your responses. You all confirmed what I really thought
about it, that a man over 300 lbs. is just going to lose weight faster following the WW plan than,
say, a woman at 195.

My inclination was to enjoy it while it lasts, and to know that it can't keep going like this all
the way to goal (oh, wouldn't that be nice, though).

It just started to make me nervous that it gives me the dire warnings every week when I log my
weight, and the article about gallstones, saggy skin, hair loss and I don't remember what else
didn't help.

Thanks for your support! I feel better now.

Stan

Well, let me tell you from experience that losing weight MAY trigger a gall stones attack, IF YOU
HAVE THEM ALREADY! Otherwise, there's nowt to worry you! Sometimes the weight loss can trigger the
first attack, but the gallstone would have been there for years by then anyway...

Very saggy skin usually only happens if you are older (less elasticity to the skin), have very dry
skin (as before), or lose too fast: if you lose at a nice steady rate, MOST of the spare skin
shrinks with you. You may find massaging moisturizers into it helps, if you have dry skin. Both the
moisturizer and the massaging help. Yes, you will notice some sagging, especially if areas where you
have a lot to lose. Women who had children notice extra tummy skin quite a lot, which is why tummy
tucks are a favourite with them after big weight loss. Sometimes you need to wait a year or two
after reaching goal before going for something like this: it's amazing what vanishes with time!

Hair loss? I'm a woman - I wouldn't know about that! ;P DH lost his hair back to his ears years ago
(think Shakespeare's hairline!), and he's never had to lose weight! Maybe that's just age...

Oh, and your feet can shrink...
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Click on Kate's Pages and explore!

Don't sweat those screaming online warnings, Stan. I remember when I used to get them. One week
I would feel like the message was yelling at me for not losing enough, then next it was
screaming about losing too fast. At first I took it seriously, after a bit I started seeing the
humor in it. There ought to be a way the online program can look at the *average* over a
specified period of time.

Enjoy the rate you are losing at now, and remember it if/when things eventually slow down. <grin>

Joyce

Stan said:

Thanks to Kate, Chris, and Elaine for your responses. You all confirmed what I really thought about
it, that a man over 300 lbs. is just going to lose weight faster following the WW plan than, say, a
woman at 195.

My inclination was to enjoy it while it lasts, and to know that it can't keep going like this all
the way to goal (oh, wouldn't that be nice, though).

It just started to make me nervous that it gives me the dire warnings every week when I log my
weight, and the article about gallstones, saggy skin, hair loss and I don't remember what else
didn't help.

Thanks for your support! I feel better now.

Stan

Stan said:

Background:

I put on a lot of weight really fast. I had already crept up to what I thought was really fat, and
six months later, I had packed on another 50 lbs. beyond that. I discovered that my scale simply
reads "OL" once you're over 309 lbs. There were health issues, and still are, and I used that as
an excuse, but I have grown bored with leaning on that crutch - I'm tired of being fat!

I started counting calories, and found somewhere that it took about 3500 calories a day to
maintain my weight, so I was trying to keep under 3000 a day. It was coming off slowly. I had lost
17 lbs. when I spent a week with my parents (we ate at Golden Corral three times) and got home to
discover I had gained back all 17 lbs. in a week. I figured it was just water, and would come
right back off, but it didn't. I joined WeightWatchers.

I wonder if packing it on so fast has anything to do with dropping it so fast. I've been on WW
(online) for just over two months and have lost 35 lbs.

My first week, I lost 9.5 lbs. I didn't kid myself, I knew it was just water. The next week,
another 5 lbs. gone, and the week after that, 3.5 more. Now when I record my weight each week, it
keeps yelling at me for losing too fast, and offers me lectures on why that's bad. And yet, when I
recorded my weight today (lost 5 lbs. this week), in the same breath it told me to be proud that
my target points were dropping from 32 to 30 a day, having crossed below 275 lbs.

I earn activity points (and I've been more active since starting WW), but I almost always eat
them. I eat most of my Flex points each week, too. In fact, I went beyond my Flex points allotment
three weeks, once by two points!

My 32 points a day (now 30) is somewhere in the realm of 1600 calories (now 1500). It's no wonder
it's melting off, considering I was losing at 3000. I suppose I could try adding 5 points or so
over what I'm allotted, but that really seems to be defeating the program. I joined the program
because it works, and I must say it really does for me, and I confess that I'm not displeased with
the weight I've lost. I keep thinking it will slow down and I should enjoy the ride while I can.

My body has always responded well to being treated well, and yet I have almost always treated it
very badly. I got to 309 (and beyond) by treating it badly. Now I'm treating it well, and it is
responding with great joy and my knees are happier and my feet are happier and I don't have to
hold my breath while I tie my shoes and so on. I just have such a hard time believing that this is
a bad thing!

Of course, my wife, who has been on a plateau for three weeks, doesn't want to hear about it
anymore, and just tells me to shut up. Well, that and if I say my knee is bugging me, she'll say,
"Oh, it's probably gall stones from losing weight too fast." She's really very sweet...

Stan
309/273.5/199

When I joined in 1981 at 365 pounds, I lost 15 pounds the first week and then a bunch every week
after that until I got into the 200's and slowed way down. If I had not quit back then, I would have
gotten to goal then. This time when I joined at 247, I lost 7 the first week, then 4 and 5 or so for
a few, then dropped on down to 1 or 2 a week for the duration. Don't worry. You are doing wonderful!

Lesanne
(365)247/160/164

"Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

while you have lost fast, the losses are slowing down. I think I read

that

Quoted message said:

the recommended was up to 2 pounds or 1 percent of your weight so I

wouldn't

Quoted message said:

worry about it. if you are following program and you feel better that is what matters. Keep in
mind there will probably be a point where they

really

Quoted message said:

slow down and that is normal, good luck, Lee Stan <[email hidden]> wrote in
message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Background:

I put on a lot of weight really fast. I had already crept up to what I thought was really fat,
and six months later, I had packed on another 50 lbs. beyond that. I discovered that my scale
simply reads "OL" once you're over 309 lbs. There were health issues, and still are, and I used
that as an excuse, but I have grown bored with leaning on that crutch - I'm tired of being fat!

I started counting calories, and found somewhere that it took about 3500 calories a day to
maintain my weight, so I was trying to keep under 3000 a day. It was coming off slowly. I had
lost 17 lbs. when I spent a week with my parents (we ate at Golden Corral three times) and got
home to discover I had gained back all 17 lbs. in a week. I figured it was just water, and would
come right back off, but it didn't. I joined WeightWatchers.

I wonder if packing it on so fast has anything to do with dropping it so fast. I've been on WW
(online) for just over two months and have lost 35 lbs.

My first week, I lost 9.5 lbs. I didn't kid myself, I knew it was just water. The next week,
another 5 lbs. gone, and the week after that, 3.5 more. Now when I record my weight each week,
it keeps yelling at me for losing too fast, and offers me lectures on why that's bad. And yet,
when I recorded my weight today (lost 5 lbs. this week), in the same breath it told me to be
proud that my target points were dropping from 32 to 30 a day, having crossed below 275 lbs.

I earn activity points (and I've been more active since starting WW), but I almost always eat
them. I eat most of my Flex points each week, too. In fact, I went beyond my Flex points
allotment three weeks, once by two points!

My 32 points a day (now 30) is somewhere in the realm of 1600 calories (now 1500). It's no
wonder it's melting off, considering I was losing at 3000. I suppose I could try adding 5 points
or so over what I'm allotted, but that really seems to be defeating the program. I joined the
program because it works, and I must say it really does for me, and I confess that I'm not
displeased with the weight I've lost. I keep thinking it will slow down and I should enjoy the
ride while I can.

My body has always responded well to being treated well, and yet I have almost always treated it
very badly. I got to 309 (and beyond) by treating it badly. Now I'm treating it well, and it is
responding with great joy and my knees are happier and my feet are happier and I don't have to
hold my breath while I tie my shoes and so on. I just have such a hard time believing that this
is a bad thing!

Of course, my wife, who has been on a plateau for three weeks, doesn't want to hear about it
anymore, and just tells me to shut up. Well, that and if I say my knee is bugging me, she'll
say, "Oh, it's probably gall stones from losing weight too fast." She's really very sweet...

Stan
309/273.5/199

On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:01:53 +0000, Kate Dicey <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Stan said:

Thanks to Kate, Chris, and Elaine for your responses. You all confirmed what I really thought
about it, that a man over 300 lbs. is just going to lose weight faster following the WW plan
than, say, a woman at 195.

My inclination was to enjoy it while it lasts, and to know that it can't keep going like this all
the way to goal (oh, wouldn't that be nice, though).

It just started to make me nervous that it gives me the dire warnings every week when I log my
weight, and the article about gallstones, saggy skin, hair loss and I don't remember what else
didn't help.

Thanks for your support! I feel better now.

Stan

Well, let me tell you from experience that losing weight MAY trigger a gall stones attack, IF YOU
HAVE THEM ALREADY! Otherwise, there's nowt to worry you! Sometimes the weight loss can trigger the
first attack, but the gallstone would have been there for years by then anyway...

Very saggy skin usually only happens if you are older (less elasticity to the skin), have very dry
skin (as before), or lose too fast: if you lose at a nice steady rate, MOST of the spare skin
shrinks with you. You may find massaging moisturizers into it helps, if you have dry skin. Both the
moisturizer and the massaging help. Yes, you will notice some sagging, especially if areas where
you have a lot to lose. Women who had children notice extra tummy skin quite a lot, which is why
tummy tucks are a favourite with them after big weight loss. Sometimes you need to wait a year or
two after reaching goal before going for something like this: it's amazing what vanishes with time!

This is very, very true ... at least from my experience this trip around. Yes, I still have a little
bit of excess skin in the tummy area ... kids, c-sects, age, whatever - but it isn't enough to make
me seek out surgery to get rid of it. In just 6 months time I've seen a lot of reduction in what I
thought were the saggy areas, and things are still shifting around.

Quoted message said:

Hair loss? I'm a woman - I wouldn't know about that! ;P DH lost his hair back to his ears years ago
(think Shakespeare's hairline!), and he's never had to lose weight! Maybe that's just age...

It's my understanding that hair loss can occur for many reasons, I've heard lack of calcium being
one of them. Whether that's true or not ... I don't know. Heck, seasons seem to affect me with hair
loss. I notice much more hair in the shower drain during different times of the year. I am a female,
not going bald but hair thinning does naturally occur with age - and I don't think it is gender
dependant. Maybe I notice it more because it's *mine* ... or because my hair is thin anyway (I would
kill for thick wavy hair - lol).

Quoted message said:

Oh, and your feet can shrink...

My feet didn't shrink. What happened though was ... due to not having as much weight pressure on
them, they no longer spread as much - resulting in smaller size shoes (some brands). It isn't that
my feet are really smaller though.

Joyce

Lesanne...your progress is truly amazing. You are a real inspiration to me.

Carol

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318/241.8/169
76.2 lost since December 2002
I am a slim person in process.
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"Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

When I joined in 1981 at 365 pounds, I lost 15 pounds the first week and
then a bunch every week after that until I got into the 200's and slowed

way

Quoted message said:

down. If I had not quit back then, I would have gotten to goal then.

This

Quoted message said:

time when I joined at 247, I lost 7 the first week, then 4 and 5 or so for

a

Quoted message said:

few, then dropped on down to 1 or 2 a week for the duration. Don't worry.
You are doing wonderful!

Lesanne
(365)247/160/164

"Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

while you have lost fast, the losses are slowing down. I think I read

that

Quoted message said:

the recommended was up to 2 pounds or 1 percent of your weight so I

wouldn't

Quoted message said:

worry about it. if you are following program and you feel better that

is

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

what matters. Keep in mind there will probably be a point where they

really

Quoted message said:

slow down and that is normal, good luck, Lee
Stan <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Background:

I put on a lot of weight really fast. I had already crept up to what
I thought was really fat, and six months later, I had packed on
another 50 lbs. beyond that. I discovered that my scale simply reads
"OL" once you're over 309 lbs. There were health issues, and still
are, and I used that as an excuse, but I have grown bored with leaning
on that crutch - I'm tired of being fat!

I started counting calories, and found somewhere that it took about
3500 calories a day to maintain my weight, so I was trying to keep
under 3000 a day. It was coming off slowly. I had lost 17 lbs. when
I spent a week with my parents (we ate at Golden Corral three times)
and got home to discover I had gained back all 17 lbs. in a week. I
figured it was just water, and would come right back off, but it
didn't. I joined WeightWatchers.

I wonder if packing it on so fast has anything to do with dropping it
so fast. I've been on WW (online) for just over two months and have
lost 35 lbs.

My first week, I lost 9.5 lbs. I didn't kid myself, I knew it was
just water. The next week, another 5 lbs. gone, and the week after
that, 3.5 more. Now when I record my weight each week, it keeps
yelling at me for losing too fast, and offers me lectures on why
that's bad. And yet, when I recorded my weight today (lost 5 lbs.
this week), in the same breath it told me to be proud that my target
points were dropping from 32 to 30 a day, having crossed below 275
lbs.

I earn activity points (and I've been more active since starting WW),
but I almost always eat them. I eat most of my Flex points each week,
too. In fact, I went beyond my Flex points allotment three weeks,
once by two points!

My 32 points a day (now 30) is somewhere in the realm of 1600 calories
(now 1500). It's no wonder it's melting off, considering I was losing
at 3000. I suppose I could try adding 5 points or so over what I'm
allotted, but that really seems to be defeating the program. I joined
the program because it works, and I must say it really does for me,
and I confess that I'm not displeased with the weight I've lost. I
keep thinking it will slow down and I should enjoy the ride while I
can.

My body has always responded well to being treated well, and yet I
have almost always treated it very badly. I got to 309 (and beyond)
by treating it badly. Now I'm treating it well, and it is responding
with great joy and my knees are happier and my feet are happier and I
don't have to hold my breath while I tie my shoes and so on. I just
have such a hard time believing that this is a bad thing!

Of course, my wife, who has been on a plateau for three weeks, doesn't
want to hear about it anymore, and just tells me to shut up. Well,
that and if I say my knee is bugging me, she'll say, "Oh, it's
probably gall stones from losing weight too fast." She's really very
sweet...

Stan
309/273.5/199