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Nutrition. Diet. Diabetes tendency. Stones possibilities, possible stones.

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  1. a. What are the current dietary, nutrition recommendations with regard to diabetes tendency,
    borderline diabetes and recommendations with regard to stones possibilities, possible stones?...

    b. How do you reinforce dietary nutrition recommendations plateauing after some success?...

    c. How do you get portioning right ?...

    d. What are the logistics of reserving, storing partial packages and canned eats?...

    e. How do you combine the two dietary nutrition recommendations for diabetes tendency, borderline
    diabetes and recommendations for stones possibilities, possible stones.

    A possible stone or stones have not passed yet. It is not completely clear what kind of
    possible stones.

  2. I can do some of this.... I am an R.N. and very interested in nutrition, but
    not a physician, nor a dietician... Anyway, I am resting from my
    pre-cooking efforts and will go for what I know something about below....
    "Don Saklad" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    a. What are the current dietary, nutrition recommendations with regard to diabetes tendency,
    borderline diabetes and recommendations with regard


    to

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    stones possibilities, possible stones?...

    ****The only connections that I have read about re: stones are.. Kidney stones and excess calcium
    consumption (mostly in men) Gallstones from "drastic" dieting, (as in the protein sparing fasts that
    were popular in the '70's, and some of the very low calorie diets of today)

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    b. How do you reinforce dietary nutrition recommendations plateauing after some success?...


    ****Remotivation if it is a case of a plateau from gradual slipping regarding portion control.
    remotivation such as lists of Why one wants to lose, participation in group efforts for support etc.
    **If the plateau is from a long term very low calorie diet, resumption of a healthy diet and
    exercise regimen, especially strength training with enough calories to support basic metabolism and
    some for building muscle. Patience and perseverance.

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    c. How do you get portioning right ?...


    *** A food scale. Measuring cups. Rational methods, such as a serving of protein is the approximate
    size of the palm of your hand (without fingers) a serving of grains is the approximate size of a
    normal fist, a serving of lower fat dessert such as low fat ice cream is the size of a medium
    lemon.... If faced with a fried protein source, cut the serving size in half... that sort of thing.

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    d. What are the logistics of reserving, storing partial packages and canned eats?...


    I use a seal a meal packaging system for leftovers I want to freeze, they can be reheated in boiling
    water. I use regular zip lock bags for things I will eat soon. If it is half a can of soup, I use
    leftover light margaine tubs. If It is chips, I use rubber bands, fold over the package and refrigerate-
    they stay fresh for up to a month. I freeze bread. I store other dry goods in plastic containers.

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    e. How do you combine the two dietary nutrition recommendations for


    diabetes

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    tendency, borderline diabetes and recommendations for stones possibilities, possible stones.


    That would depend upon the type of possible stone? A good healthy diet with lots of fruits,
    vegetables, limited amounts of healthy fats and lean protein should be safe for all of that. The ADA
    pretty much is saying now that carbohydrates, or the glycemic load is the problem, but you can not
    go wrong limiting (even doing without) simple sugars and "white" products, such as white bread,
    baked junk like twinkies, that sort of thing.

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    A possible stone or stones have not passed yet. It is not completely clear what kind of
    possible stones.


    Where might this stone be located and how do you know it is there? If it is in the urinary tract it
    is most likely "calcium" or "uric acid". They would be treated differently, as regards dietary
    recommendations, only in that if one is taking in too much calcium you would quit (usually this
    happens when men take calcium supplements, it is kind of rare)

  3. Don Saklad said:


    a. What are the current dietary, nutrition recommendations with regard to diabetes tendency,
    borderline diabetes and recommendations with regard to stones possibilities, possible
    stones?...

    Here in the UK usually for Type 2 diabetes, cut back on carbs, cut out as much refined sugar as
    possible, cut back on fats... Make sure you eat 5 or more portions of fruit and/or veg per day. If
    you are a Type 1 (on insulin), there are no ridgid rules, they just recommend that you eat a healthy
    mixed diet, avoid refined sugars, and eat the fruit/veg...

    Stop smoking, get your eyes checked every year, all the other good stuff. DH is a type one - MUCH
    easier to cope with than a friend finds his type 2!

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    b. How do you reinforce dietary nutrition recommendations plateauing after some success?...

    Work on through it! I've been on a plateau for a month, teetering on the edge... 😉

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    c. How do you get portioning right ?...

    Weigh! The WW books give you the sizes they regard as small, medium, and large.

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    d. What are the logistics of reserving, storing partial packages and canned eats?...

    Freeze it!

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    e. How do you combine the two dietary nutrition recommendations for diabetes tendency, borderline
    diabetes and recommendations for stones possibilities, possible stones.

    Depends on the type of stones. For gall stones I find I need to avoid trigger foods. For me these
    are coffee, sweet stuff, fats, red wine, red meat, cheese, spirits, and, alas, chocolate, and just
    eating too much at once! Works in great with WW... However, your trigger foods may be different
    from mine.

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    A possible stone or stones have not passed yet. It is not completely clear what kind of
    possible stones.

    --

    Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons diceyhome.free-online.co.ukdiceyhome.free-online.co.uk
    Click on Kate's Pages and explore!

  4. I'm a non-meds Type 2 diabetic, living in Ontario, Canada. Both my doctor and the nutritionist
    recommend no more than one small fruit daily, no starchy veggies, i.e., corn, peas, or carrots, I've
    learned to eat mostly green ones. Wine is a treat I save for dinner parties.

    My meds were reduced after five months on WW, and stopped completely after nine months.

    Linda

    (EST+5) From: [email hidden] (Kate=A0Dicey) Don Saklad wrote:
    a. What are the current dietary, nutrition recommendations with regard to =A0 diabetes tendency,
    borderline diabetes and recommendations with regard to =A0 stones possibilities, possible
    stones?... Here in the UK usually for Type 2 diabetes, cut back on carbs, cut out as much refined
    sugar as possible, cut back on fats... Make sure you eat 5 or more portions of fruit and/or veg
    per day. If you are a Type 1 (on insulin), there are no ridgid rules, they just recommend that
    you eat a healthy mixed diet, avoid refined sugars, and eat the fruit/veg... Stop smoking, get
    your eyes checked every year, all the other good stuff. DH is a type one - MUCH easier to cope
    with than a friend finds his type 2!
    b. How do you reinforce dietary nutrition recommendations plateauing after =A0 some success?... Work
    on through it! I've been on a plateau for a month, teetering on the edge... 😉
    c. How do you get portioning right ?... Weigh! The WW books give you the sizes they regard as small,
    medium, and large.
    d. What are the logistics of reserving, =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0storing partial packages and canned
    eats?... Freeze it!
    e. How do you combine the two dietary nutrition recommendations for diabetes =A0 tendency,
    borderline diabetes and recommendations for stones =A0 possibilities, possible stones. Depends on
    the type of stones. For gall stones I find I need to avoid trigger foods. For me these are
    coffee, sweet stuff, fats, red wine, red meat, cheese, spirits, and, alas, chocolate, and just
    eating too much at once! Works in great with WW... However, your trigger foods may be different
    from mine. A possible stone or stones have not passed yet. It is not completely clear what kind
    of possible stones.
    --

    Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons diceyhome.free-online.co.ukdiceyhome.free-online.co.uk
    Click on Kate's Pages and explore!

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