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  1. Ritalin is a bad drug, which is used to treat symptoms only.

    It's far better, to determine exactly what's wrong & why, rather than treat symptoms with a drug
    like Ritalin, which can do permanent damage & harm, especially when taken over time.

    Even with my having advanced cancer, I'd rather not be offered a cr-p drug like Ritalin.

    While I understand that the govt & insurance companies (& the PHARMA lobby), would rather force the
    worst medical care possible onto most people, ... & force the worst symptom-type-only drugs on us
    (instead of giving any quality care), ... it's still morally wrong.

    People have the right to say NO to this, and to demand much better medical care.

    Susan, Su_Texas my opinions

  2. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ritalin is a bad drug, which is used to treat symptoms only.

    As is the case with many other treatments. In some cases, the root causes of the problems are known
    and treated, in others, when the root causes are unknown, or there is no known treatment for them,
    then symptomatic treatment is the best that can be offered.

    Quoted message said:

    It's far better, to determine exactly what's wrong & why,

    Agreed.

    rather than

    Quoted message said:

    treat symptoms with a drug like Ritalin, which can do permanent damage & harm, especially when
    taken over time.

    For its use in fighting cancer fatigue, the risk/benefit comes down to desire tofunction vs. some
    nebulous problems long term. As you prabably know, there has never been a showing of long term
    problems in humans.

    Quoted message said:

    Even with my having advanced cancer, I'd rather not be offered a cr-p drug like Ritalin.

    Your choice.

    Quoted message said:

    While I understand that the govt & insurance companies (& the PHARMA lobby), would rather force
    the worst medical care possible onto most people, ... & force the worst symptom-type-only drugs on
    us (instead of giving any quality care), ... it's still morally wrong.

    When it is the best choice possible, then you are stuck with it. What do you propose in lieu of it?

    And, the conspiracy [censored] makes you sound like a loon.

    Quoted message said:

    People have the right to say NO to this, and to demand much better medical care.

    No one has said anything else. Where did you dredge this up from?

  3. [email hidden] wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Ritalin is a bad drug, which is used to treat symptoms only.

    It's far better, to determine exactly what's wrong & why, rather than treat symptoms with a drug
    like Ritalin, which can do permanent damage & harm, especially when taken over time.

    Even with my having advanced cancer, I'd rather not be offered a cr-p drug like Ritalin.

    While I understand that the govt & insurance companies (& the PHARMA lobby), would rather force
    the worst medical care possible onto most people, ... & force the worst symptom-type-only drugs on
    us (instead of giving any quality care), ... it's still morally wrong.

    People have the right to say NO to this, and to demand much better medical care.

    Susan, Su_Texas my opinions

    Oh, so you're a troll...that explains things.

    Mark, MD

  4. Perhaps if you would have taken the ritalin and not lived a life of Hyperactive everything you
    wouldn't have advanced cancer.

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ritalin is a bad drug, which is used to treat symptoms only.

    It's far better, to determine exactly what's wrong & why, rather than treat symptoms with a drug
    like Ritalin, which can do permanent damage & harm, especially when taken over time.

    Even with my having advanced cancer, I'd rather not be offered a cr-p drug like Ritalin.

    While I understand that the govt & insurance companies (& the PHARMA lobby), would rather force
    the worst medical care possible onto most people, ... & force the worst symptom-type-only drugs on
    us (instead of giving any quality care), ... it's still morally wrong.

    People have the right to say NO to this, and to demand much better medical care.

    Susan, Su_Texas my opinions

  5. [email hidden] (Mark) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Ritalin is a bad drug, which is used to treat symptoms only.

    It's far better, to determine exactly what's wrong & why, rather than treat symptoms with a drug
    like Ritalin, which can do permanent damage & harm, especially when taken over time.

    Even with my having advanced cancer, I'd rather not be offered a cr-p drug like Ritalin.

    While I understand that the govt & insurance companies (& the PHARMA lobby), would rather force
    the worst medical care possible onto most people, ... & force the worst symptom-type-only drugs
    on us (instead of giving any quality care), ... it's still morally wrong.

    People have the right to say NO to this, and to demand much better medical care.

    Susan, Su_Texas my opinions

    Oh, so you're a troll...that explains things.

    Mark, MD

    ============

    Oh, so you're determinedly-dumb, ... which explains nothing.

    Susan, Su_Texas my opinions

  6. "Gymmy Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Perhaps if you would have taken the ritalin and not lived a life of Hyperactive everything you
    wouldn't have advanced cancer.

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ritalin is a bad drug, which is used to treat symptoms only.

    It's far better, to determine exactly what's wrong & why, rather than treat symptoms with a drug
    like Ritalin, which can do permanent damage & harm, especially when taken over time.

    Even with my having advanced cancer, I'd rather not be offered a cr-p drug like Ritalin.

    While I understand that the govt & insurance companies (& the PHARMA lobby), would rather force
    the worst medical care possible onto most people, ... & force the worst symptom-type-only drugs
    on us (instead of giving any quality care), ... it's still morally wrong.

    People have the right to say NO to this, and to demand much better medical care.

    Susan, Su_Texas my opinions

    ==============

    What the heck are you talking about? What you've said makes no sense.

    #1 I'm not hyperactive.

    #2 While Ritalin can probably do a lot of damage to your brain & body
    (esp. when taken over time), I seriously doubt it can prevent cancer. It might even cause cancer.

    Hmmm. If you've been taking Ritalin, then that might explain ...

    You take Ritalin, don't you? And it shows.

    Susan, Su_Texas my opinions

  7. Top-posting said:

    Perhaps if you would have taken the ritalin and not lived a life of Hyperactive everything you
    wouldn't have advanced cancer.

    Just when I think you've said the stupidest thing ever, you just keep on talking.

    Quoted message said:

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

  8. rambling on about taking ritalin and having cancer? Are they related or are you just babbling about
    [censored] in the hope somebody will listen? If you are you will have to be more coherent.

    "su-texas, susan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Gymmy Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Perhaps if you would have taken the ritalin and not lived a life of Hyperactive everything you
    wouldn't have advanced cancer.

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ritalin is a bad drug, which is used to treat symptoms only.

    It's far better, to determine exactly what's wrong & why, rather than treat symptoms with a
    drug like Ritalin, which can do permanent damage


    &

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    harm, especially when taken over time.

    Even with my having advanced cancer, I'd rather not be offered a cr-p drug like Ritalin.

    While I understand that the govt & insurance companies (& the PHARMA lobby), would rather
    force the worst medical care possible onto most people, ... & force the worst symptom-type-
    only drugs on us (instead


    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    giving any quality care), ... it's still morally wrong.

    People have the right to say NO to this, and to demand much better medical care.

    Susan, Su_Texas my opinions

    ==============

    What the heck are you talking about? What you've said makes no sense.

    #1 I'm not hyperactive.

    #2 While Ritalin can probably do a lot of damage to your brain & body
    (esp. when taken over time), I seriously doubt it can prevent cancer. It might even cause cancer.

    Hmmm. If you've been taking Ritalin, then that might explain ...

    You take Ritalin, don't you? And it shows.

    Susan, Su_Texas my opinions

  9. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Ritalin = Bad Drug
    From: [email hidden] (Ilsa9)
    Date: 12/25/2003 5:54 PM Central Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Top-posting, Souless Reprobate, & Steaming Bag of Feces, Gymmie Bob wrote:

    NOW HEAR THIS:

    As I now, I am taking all out of my killfile to see Peter Bowditch's zero-tolerance policy of
    personal attacking at work.

    Helloooooooooooooo Peter.

    Jan

  10. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Ritalin = Bad Drug
    From: [email hidden] (Ilsa9)
    Date: 12/25/2003 5:54 PM Central Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Top-posting, Souless Reprobate, & Steaming Bag of Feces, Gymmie Bob wrote:

    NOW HEAR THIS:

    As I now, I am taking all out of my killfile to see Peter Bowditch's zero-tolerance policy of
    personal attacking at work.

    Helloooooooooooooo Peter.

    Jan

    Now, hear this, Jan, its the MHA 12 Days of Christmas!

    On her 12th day on MHA, Jan Drew said to me:

    Alan Yurko is a Hero, I hate Jews, The ADA is Lying & The AMA Believes them BARF! PLONK! & ZZZZ!
    Welcome to Evil Conventional Medicine Vaccines are the Anti-Christ Thank GOD for Elavil

    GO CHECK THE TEETH!!!!

    Barrett is Satan Stop Be-Littling Everyone is lying and MHA's mostly about MER-cureeeeeee.

  11. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Ritalin = Bad Drug
    From: [email hidden] (Ilsa9)
    Date: 12/25/2003 5:54 PM Central Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Top-posting, Souless Reprobate, & Steaming Bag of Feces, Gymmie Bob wrote:

    NOW HEAR THIS:

    As I now, I am taking all out of my killfile to see Peter Bowditch's zero-tolerance policy of
    personal attacking at work.

    Helloooooooooooooo Peter.

    google archive to see Peter's esteemed Zero-Tolerance policy in action.

    You have never killfiled anyone, ever. It just one of the many lies you are compelled to tell over &
    over again.

    Quoted message said:

    Jan

  12. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Ritalin = Bad Drug
    From: [email hidden] (Ilsa9)
    Date: 12/25/2003 8:46 PM Central Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Ritalin = Bad Drug From: [email hidden] (Ilsa9) Date: 12/25/2003 5:54 PM Central
    Standard Time Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Top-posting, Souless Reprobate, & Steaming Bag of Feces, Gymmie Bob wrote:

    NOW HEAR THIS:

    As I now, I am taking all out of my killfile to see Peter Bowditch's zero-tolerance policy of
    personal attacking at work.

    Helloooooooooooooo Peter.

    Jan

    Now, hear this, Jan, its the MHA 12 Days of Christmas!

    On her 12th day on MHA, Jan Drew said to me:

    Lie # 1

    Quoted message said:

    Alan Yurko is a Hero,

    Lie # 2

    Quoted message said:

    I hate Jews,

    Lie # 3

    Quoted message said:

    The ADA is Lying & The AMA Believes them

    That's true.

    Quoted message said:

    BARF! PLONK! & ZZZZ!

    If, the post calls for it, yes. Which are the majority of your posts.

    Quoted message said:

    Welcome to Evil Conventional Medicine

    Indeed,

    Quoted message said:

    Vaccines are the Anti-Christ

    Lie # 4

    Quoted message said:

    Thank GOD for Elavil


    I said that, yes.

    Quoted message said:

    GO CHECK THE TEETH!!!!

    Well, not quite.

    *IF* you have an unanswered health problem,,,,,,,,CHECK THE TEETH!

    NOT by a mainstream dentist, but an Alt. dentist who KNOWS the dangers of metal in the mouth and
    root canals, and follows correct protocol.

    I did, it saved my life.

    Mercury is Poisonous.

    There is NO safe form of Mercury in living tissue.

    The mercury vapor from dental amalgam alone is a bigger source than all the other sources together.

    U151 identifies mercury as a toxic waste.

    Mercury is also recovered from discarded products and wastes such aschlor-alkali wastes, dental
    amalgams, fluorescent light tubes, electronic devices, and others. The mercury is vaporized in a
    retort and collected by condensation. Condensed mercury is then distilled to remove impurities.

    ***The Environmental Protection Agency is working to reduce the amount of mercuryin the
    environment *****

    ehs.ucsf.eduCsm Chapter9.htm

    17. DENTAL AMALGAM

    Dental amalgams are mixtures of mercury with silver tin alloy. Cal-EPA regulates them as ***chemical
    waste.*** Submit Chemical Waste Removal Form for its disposal

    Quoted message said:

    Barrett is Satan

    Lie # 5

    Quoted message said:

    Stop Be-Littling

    YES Andrew, do it NOW!!

    Quoted message said:

    Everyone is lying

    Lie # 6

    Not everyone, the ones who have lied has been proven.

    Quoted message said:

    and MHA's mostly about MER-cureeeeeee.

    Lie # 7

    Typical of Andrew Kingoff.

    Quoted message said:

    From: [email hidden]

    Lie # 8.

    Jan

  13. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Ritalin = Bad Drug
    From: [email hidden] (Ilsa9)
    Date: 12/25/2003 8:49 PM Central Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Ritalin = Bad Drug From: [email hidden] (Ilsa9) Date: 12/25/2003 5:54 PM Central
    Standard Time Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Top-posting, Souless Reprobate, & Steaming Bag of Feces, Gymmie Bob wrote:

    NOW HEAR THIS:

    As I now, I am taking all out of my killfile to see Peter Bowditch's zero-tolerance policy of
    personal attacking at work.

    Helloooooooooooooo Peter.


    Helloooooooo Peter.

    Let us see thaqt zero-tolerance of personal attacking in action.

    Quoted message said:

    You have never killfiled anyone, ever.

    Lie # ?????

  14. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Lie # 1

    Lie # 2

    Lie # 3

    Lie # 4

    Lie # 5

    Lie # 6

    Lie # 7

    Quoted message said:


    Lie # 8.

    Jan

    $ KaChing $31

  15. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Lie # ?????

    $ KaChing # $32

  16. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Ritalin = Bad Drug From: [email hidden] (Ilsa9) Date: 12/25/2003 5:54 PM Central
    Standard Time Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Top-posting, Souless Reprobate, & Steaming Bag of Feces, Gymmie Bob


    Quoted message said:


    NOW HEAR THIS:

    As I now, I am taking all out of my killfile to see Peter Bowditch's zero-tolerance policy of
    personal attacking at work.

    How about telling that to Gymmy [censored]? His personal attack on Su_texas was totally uncalled for. I
    happen to disagree with just about everything she posts, but, Gymmy [censored] personal attack was
    uncalled for.

    So, if you wish to prove that you are NOT a hypocrite with a double standard, tell that to gymmy
    [censored]. Otherwise, business as usual.

    BTW, ready to discuss some substantive issues?

  17. "su-texas, susan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Gymmy Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Perhaps if you would have taken the ritalin and not lived a life of Hyperactive everything you
    wouldn't have advanced cancer.

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ritalin is a bad drug, which is used to treat symptoms only.

    It's far better, to determine exactly what's wrong & why, rather than treat symptoms with a
    drug like Ritalin, which can do permanent damage


    &

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    harm, especially when taken over time.

    Even with my having advanced cancer, I'd rather not be offered a cr-p drug like Ritalin.

    While I understand that the govt & insurance companies (& the PHARMA lobby), would rather
    force the worst medical care possible onto most people, ... & force the worst symptom-type-
    only drugs on us (instead


    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    giving any quality care), ... it's still morally wrong.

    People have the right to say NO to this, and to demand much better medical care.

    Susan, Su_Texas my opinions

    ==============

    What the heck are you talking about? What you've said makes no sense.

    Well, at least you got that one right. Gymmy [censored] never makes sense, so, do not expect him to.

    Quoted message said:


    #1 I'm not hyperactive.

    #2 While Ritalin can probably do a lot of damage to your brain & body
    (esp. when taken over time), I seriously doubt it can prevent cancer. It might even cause cancer.

    Actually, the toxicology study showed that methyphenidate seems to have a protectiver effect wrt to
    certain types of breat tumors in rodents. As for the "a lot of damage" can you provide some details?
    With all of the methyphenidate that has been prescribed over the past fifty years. one would expect
    to see the damaged people all over the place.

  18. "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Lie # 1

    Lie # 2

    Lie # 3

    Lie # 4

    Lie # 5

    Lie # 6

    Lie # 7

    Quoted message said:


    Lie # 8.

    Jan

    $ KaChing $31

    Rich, shouldn't that be 8 KaChings?

    No, one per post is the standard. --Rich

  19. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    snip

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    BTW, ready to discuss some substantive issues?

    With you? Nope.

    Cannot handle it, eh? Too tough when I got your number?

    Going to go back to taking cheap shots and posting that sick woman's URL?

    You'll soon be back in my killfile and I will soon be flying

    Quoted message said:

    back to Florida.

    Yes, you cannot handle it.

    Sadly, you prove yourself to be an intellectual coward.

  20. (Jan) said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Ritalin = Bad Drug From: [email hidden] (Ilsa9) Date: 12/25/2003 5:54 PM Central
    Standard Time Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Top-posting, Souless Reprobate, & Steaming Bag of Feces, Gymmie Bob wrote:

    NOW HEAR THIS:

    As I now, I am taking all out of my killfile to see Peter Bowditch's zero-tolerance policy of
    personal attacking at work.

    Helloooooooooooooo Peter.

    Jan

    As others and I have proved many times, Jan Drew is a liar. Jan Drew CLAIMED to have killfiled
    several persons. But he lied. Jan Drew did NOT use his killfile.

    And now, after the world knows this fact, Jan Drew tries to duck out and claims to have taken out
    "all" of his killfile.

    Jan Drew is a known liar and forger. Here is one more example, which I herewith now repost :

    quote On 20 Nov 2003 23:05:41 GMT said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Zapper kills infectious bacteria From: Happy Oyster [email hidden] Date:
    11/20/2003 2:03 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    (Jan) said:

    >Subject: Re: Zapper kills infectious bacteria From: Happy Oyster [email hidden] Date:
    >11/19/2003 5:03 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id:
    ><[email hidden]>
    >
    >On 18 Nov 2003 22:40:08 GMT, [email hidden] (Jan) wrote:
    >
    >>>Subject: Re: Zapper kills infectious bacteria From: "Peter Moran" [email hidden] Date:
    >>>11/18/2003 1:22 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id:
    >
    >>><[email hidden].
    com.au>
    >>
    >>Peter Moran is an *organized medicine* sock puppet.
    >>
    >>He hasn't read Hulda's Books, he has no idea of the cases in them.
    >
    >Hulda Clark is a criminal and was sentenced because of her fraud.

    LOL. Get a clue. Do post where she was sentenced. You can't, she wasn't. I was sitting right
    there through the trumpted up trial.


    *********************************************************

    As we all know, Jan Drew is a forger

    As we know you have a screw loose. One can't believe anything you say, like this:

    Quoted message said:

    Hulda Clark is a criminal and was sentenced because of her fraud.

    Now back up this statement with proof, otherwise it will be shown once again how you lie.

    Furthermore it was you who forged and I proved it. Your sneaky dishonesty is exposed.

    The claims by Jan Drew are outrageous lies. The FTC states in

    ftc.govdrclarkcmp.htm

    <quote> DEFENDANTS' VIOLATIONS OF THE FTC ACT

    13. Section 5(a) of the FTC Act, 15 U.S.C. § 45(a), prohibits deceptive acts or practices in or
    affecting commerce. Section 12(a) of the FTC Act, 15 U.S.C. § 52(a), prohibits the dissemination
    of any false advertisement in or affecting commerce for the purpose of inducing, or which is
    likely to induce, the purchase of food, drugs, devices or cosmetics. As set forth below,
    defendants have engaged and are continuing to engage in such unlawful practices in connection
    with the marketing and sale of various products, including the Super-Zapper Deluxe, Syncrometer,
    the Dr. Clark's New 21 Day Program for Advanced Cancers, and the Complete Herbal Parasite
    Program, (also called the Herbal Parasite Cleanse).

    14. Through their advertising and promotional materials, including, but not limited to, the
    representations set forth in Paragraph 12, above, and through the use of their Internet
    websites, "www.drclark.net" and "www.drclark.com" defendants have represented expressly or by
    implication that:

    a.  Use of the Super-Zapper Deluxe is effective to kill bacteria, viruses and parasites in the
    human body;  
    b.  Use of the Super-Zapper Deluxe is effective against chronic infections, cancer and Acquired
    Immunodeficiency Syndrome (AIDS);  
    c.  The Super-Zapper Deluxe and the Complete Herbal Parasite Program, are effective to cure all
    forms of cancer in humans;  
    d.  Dr. Clark's New 21 Day Program for Advanced Cancers is effective to cure all forms of cancer
    in humans;  
    e.  Dr. Clark's New 21 Day Program for Advanced Cancers has cured numerous people with advanced
    cases of cancer;  
    f.  The Syncrometer device is more accurate than the best testing methods at diagnosing all forms of
    disease;  
    g.  The Syncrometer device can detect the presence of any substance at specific points in the
    human body.  
    h.  The Super-Zapper Deluxe, used together with the Complete Herbal Parasite Program, is effective
    to cure AIDS;  
    i.  The Super-Zapper Deluxe, used together with the Complete Herbal Parasite Program and avoidance
    of pollutants, is effective to cure diabetes, multiple sclerosis, Alzheimer's, endometriosis,
    asthma and many other diseases.  
    j.  Dr. Clark's New 21 Day Program for Advanced Cancers and Super-Zapper Deluxe, when used by
    persons with cancer, make surgery and chemotherapy unnecessary.

    15. Defendants did not possess and rely upon a reasonable basis that substantiated the
    representations set forth in Paragraph 14, above, at the time the representations were made.
    Therefore, the making of the representations set forth in Paragraph 14, above, is deceptive and
    constitutes false advertising for a food, drug or device, in violation of the FTC Act, 15 U.S.C.
    §§ 45(a), 52 and 55.

    CONSUMER INJURY

    16. As a result of defendants' unlawful acts or practices, consumers throughout the United States
    have suffered and continue to suffer monetary loss and possible injuries to their health.
    Defendants also have been unjustly enriched as a result of their unlawful practices. Absent
    injunctive relief by this Court, the defendants are likely to continue to injure consumers, reap
    unjust enrichment and harm the public interest.

    THIS COURT'S POWER TO GRANT RELIEF

    17. Section 13(b) of the FTC Act, 15 U.S.C. § 53(b), authorizes this Court to grant injunctive and
    other equitable relief, including consumer redress, disgorgement and restitution, to prevent and
    remedy any violations of any provision of law enforced by the Commission. </quote>

    The full text is too long to include it in this usenet posting.

    Here a detail, found in quackwatch.orgclark.html :

    <quote> The FTC's case was supported by three lengthy affidavits that dissected and thoroughly
    debunked Hulda Clark's theories and treatments. Among other things:

    Aron Primack, M.D., a cancer specialist who is Associate Professor of Preventive Medicine and
    Biometrics at the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Maryland,
    stated that, Hulda Clark's books "do not provide competent and reliable evidence" to support her
    claims [19]. --> quackwatch.orgprimack.html

    Peter W. Pappas, Ph.D., a prominent parasitologist and Professor Emeritis at the Ohio State
    University, stated (a) although cancer and AIDS are found worldwide, the parasite Clark blames
    for them is limited to South East Asia; (b) "Clark's 'case histories' represent an egregious
    example of a highly biased experimental protocol, and her theories are based on bad science"; and
    (c) "She clearly does not have a basic understanding of the most fundamental parasitological
    principles." [20] -->
    quackwatch.orgpappas.html

    Joseph Pizzorno, N.D., the nation's top naturopath, stated that, "No research is presented
    demonstrating that the Zapper has any physiological effects, let alone ability to kill parasites
    or cure cancer. The claim that mild electrical shocks to the skin can eliminate intestinal
    parasites is, frankly, preposterous." [21] -->
    quackwatch.orgpizzorno.html </quote>

    As you can see, Hulda Clark is a criminal. Hulda Clark was sentenced because of the zapper stuff,
    the very same zapper stuff Jan Drew in his posting claims to work.

    So, for all clear to see :

    Jan Drew supports a criminal, AND Jan Drew even tells the very same
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    lies the US Court has expressively forbidden.
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "I was sitting right there through the trumpted up trial."

    Jan Drew's own words or where did he steal from this time?

    Too dumb to do a search??? Too dumb to know I am not a he.

    Jan

    Does Jan Drew again confess that he stole someone else's words ?

    Regards,

    Aribert Deckers </quote>

    Merry Christmas,

    Aribert Deckers
    --
    World Conference "Health Care Systems: Public and Private Management"

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