Gatorade replacement

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Gary,

You might want to consider having your blood sugar tested by an MD. Your insulin levels may be a
little out of order....

Jack (ride'n the RANS) Davis

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I am getting a bit ahead of the electrolyte replacement season here in Utah, but it is a good time
to start planning for next summer.

Summer before last I started drinking Gatorade on rides based on a discussion here on ARBR. It
worked. On rides of 30 miles and more (especially with climbs involved), I was taking less
Gatorade than water, and it was satisfying more. I was less wasted at the end of a long, hot ride.

Last summer I began to experience some serious nausea when I drank much Gatorade at a time.
Sometimes I get this same type of nausea from eating something really sweet. I wonder if it is the
sugar in Gatorade that my stomach is rebelling against.

Is the energy from Sugar a necessary element of Gatorade or just something to make it more
palatable? Has anyone found an electrolyte replacement drink or solid that does not contain sugar?

Gary McCarty, Greenspeed GTO, Salt Lake City

I was tested for hypoglycemia,because of a reaction I was having after
eating something with a lot of sugar.
I would become shaky,weak ,sweaty and craved something to eat,mainly carbo
based.
I drank a Gatorade on a ride and about 40 minutes later had the reaction,so
there is enough sugar in one to cause a problem.
BTW the test showed I am Hypoglycemic.
Ben Fox
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Quoted message said:

I am getting a bit ahead of the electrolyte replacement season here in Utah, but it is a good time
to start planning for next summer.

Summer before last I started drinking Gatorade on rides based on a discussion here on ARBR. It
worked. On rides of 30 miles and more (especially with climbs involved), I was taking less
Gatorade than water, and it was satisfying more. I was less wasted at the end of a long, hot ride.

Last summer I began to experience some serious nausea when I drank much Gatorade at a time.
Sometimes I get this same type of nausea from eating something really sweet. I wonder if it is the
sugar in Gatorade that my stomach is rebelling against.

Is the energy from Sugar a necessary element of Gatorade or just something to make it more
palatable? Has anyone found an electrolyte replacement drink or solid that does not contain sugar?

Gary McCarty, Greenspeed GTO, Salt Lake City

I've enjoyed Gatorade for sometime. However a member in a local recumbo
group (SFRR) has offered a possible alternative call Spiz.
spiz.netspiz.netOpen ↗ As I'm now in training for BAF (Bike Across Florida -
167 miles in one day, done in 12 hours or less) I'm looking for any and all
helpful supplements.
Below is part of their post on the subject:
EZ Biker :-) Pompano Beach, Fl. (Bacchetta Aero Pilot)

GMTA: I was going to post a "TRY SPIZ" to the BAF group. Jose, I suggest you ask the "fast team" to
consider using SPIZ and you can eliminate or drastically reduce time to stop for nutrition. You can
gain a competitive advantage with this stuff by drastically reducing refuel stops. If you don't like
SPIZ there is another product called, <to be filled in later> that tastes like a dreamsicle.

SPIZ Testimonial: SPIZ contains all the nutrients you need plus electrolytes. Were it not for SPIZ,
I would not have made the time limits on PBP to the controls. I am slow, but did not have to stop
for food at all. My only stops were to replenish my "liquid food". Here's what I found with SPIZ:

1. Steady energy level. I enjoyed an incredible steady feeling all during the ride.

2. Felt Energized: All during my brevets and PBP, I felt "energized". In other words: "I felt damn
good" while cycling.

3. No Cramps: SPIZ contains electrolytes and in all that cycling my legs never once bothered me. On
our metric ride on Saturday I forgot my camelback and SPIZ and tried to do the ride on two 20 oz
bottles of Gatorade. At mile 50, I let out a "AGHHHHHHH" and came to a screeching halt as my leg
cramped. At no time during my training during 2003 on SPIZ did I ever suffer one cramp.

4. Probably Cheaper. Given what food costs, I think SPIZ isn't much more expensive than food. It
may even be cheaper.

5. Adjust Calorie Intake: You can mix SPIZ to give you anywhere from 250 to about 500 to 700
calories an hour. I knew from using GU and Gatorade that my body worked fine using about 300
calories an hour while cycling.

6. Two flavors: Vanilla and Chocolate. I love the Chocolate. Jose loves the Vanilla. I'm sure you
could even flavor the vanilla if you wanted to.

7. No gastro or "other" problems: Okay graphic time. I didn't suffer any gastro upset stomach nor
did I encounter diarrhea. The graphic comment (turn away for those not inclined to the bottom
truth) is that your stool may be somewhat well..softer so to speak. Make that a lot softer in my
case, but not to where it was a problem.

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Quoted message said:

I am getting a bit ahead of the electrolyte replacement season here in Utah, but it is a good time
to start planning for next summer.

Summer before last I started drinking Gatorade on rides based on a discussion here on ARBR. It
worked. On rides of 30 miles and more (especially with climbs involved), I was taking less
Gatorade than water, and it was satisfying more. I was less wasted at the end of a long, hot ride.

Last summer I began to experience some serious nausea when I drank much Gatorade at a time.
Sometimes I get this same type of nausea from eating something really sweet. I wonder if it is the
sugar in Gatorade that my stomach is rebelling against.

Is the energy from Sugar a necessary element of Gatorade or just something to make it more
palatable? Has anyone found an electrolyte replacement drink or solid that does not contain sugar?

Gary McCarty, Greenspeed GTO, Salt Lake City

Gary,

There are more sophisticated drinks than gatorade that do a better job (are more complete). I've
experimented with several (riding in hot CA central valley) and have found one that works extremely
well during the ride. I like the idea of using another type of drink immediately after (within 15
min.) a long, hard ride.

I use EXTERN (orange flavor) that I get through Performancebike.com. I carry a water bottle just for
the extern and carry water in a bladder in the tailbox. I have a small pouch that contains 4 30 ml.
containers of EXTERN powder and 3 bars. With a good crab dinner and oatmeal breakfast I can ride on
the contents of the pouch all day without hunger. I have found that you've got to experiment with
the concentration of the powder/water to find the max strength that you can tolerate without gut
problems. I start drinking water and alternate water and EXTERN throughout the day.

Bottom line. If you're concerned about your sugar metabolism see Dr. Welby and have the tests.
Otherwise, try some of the other products out there till you find one that you can live with.
Gatorade is cheaper, but the others are (IMHO) much more effective and can be carried as powders
allowing you to have a full day's supply.

Lon

HepCat DoubleVision

oops. I spell checked EXTRAN to EXTERN, sorry.

L.A. said:

Gary,

There are more sophisticated drinks than gatorade that do a better job (are more complete). I've
experimented with several (riding in hot CA central valley) and have found one that works
extremely well during the ride. I like the idea of using another type of drink immediately after
(within 15 min.) a long, hard ride.

I use EXTERN (orange flavor) that I get through Performancebike.com. I carry a water bottle just
for the extern and carry water in a bladder in the tailbox. I have a small pouch that contains 4
30 ml. containers of EXTERN powder and 3 bars. With a good crab dinner and oatmeal breakfast I can
ride on the contents of the pouch all day without hunger. I have found that you've got to
experiment with the concentration of the powder/water to find the max strength that you can
tolerate without gut problems. I start drinking water and alternate water and EXTERN throughout
the day.

Bottom line. If you're concerned about your sugar metabolism see Dr. Welby and have the tests.
Otherwise, try some of the other products out there till you find one that you can live with.
Gatorade is cheaper, but the others are (IMHO) much more effective and can be carried as powders
allowing you to have a full day's supply.

Lon

HepCat DoubleVision

Gary:

Some people who cannot tolerate Gatorade can tolerate Cytomax. IMHO, Cytomax is good stuff.

Your LBS should be able to get it. That is the drawback. It is not as readily available as Gatorade or Powerade.

Hi Gary

Having tried many of the energy drinks on the market, I would highly recommend www.hammergel.com.
and their complete line of products.

These guys have done the most research, and have used that research to produce the most
effective products out there IMO. The website also has the best advice on long distance
cycling/running etc. nutrition I've seen.

I have no financial connection with the company. I was a chronic cramper before using their
products, and promised their Dr. Bill Misner that if he could solve my cramping problem- I
would become their best salesman!

On two century rides last fall, I pushed myself so hard trying to cramp in the last twenty
miles it took a month to recover!

Rich

Thanks for everyone's comments, I have somethings to try. I'll get on it.

Gary McCarty

L.A. said:

Gary,

There are more sophisticated drinks than gatorade that do a better job (are more complete). I've
experimented with several (riding in hot CA central valley) and have found one that works
extremely well during the ride. I like the idea of using another type of drink immediately after
(within 15 min.) a long, hard ride.

I use EXTERN (orange flavor) that I get through Performancebike.com. I carry a water bottle just
for the extern and carry water in a bladder in the tailbox. I have a small pouch that contains 4
30 ml. containers of EXTERN powder and 3 bars. With a good crab dinner and oatmeal breakfast I can
ride on the contents of the pouch all day without hunger. I have found that you've got to
experiment with the concentration of the powder/water to find the max strength that you can
tolerate without gut problems. I start drinking water and alternate water and EXTERN throughout
the day.

Bottom line. If you're concerned about your sugar metabolism see Dr. Welby and have the tests.
Otherwise, try some of the other products out there till you find one that you can live with.
Gatorade is cheaper, but the others are (IMHO) much more effective and can be carried as powders
allowing you to have a full day's supply.

Lon

HepCat DoubleVision

Is Extern a safe drink for diabetics?

I have to agree with Rich. The hammer gel stuff works well for me and it comes in various forms and
flavors.. I use the small tear off packages. I get a noticable boost in energy when I use it.

Jude

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Thanks for everyone's comments, I have somethings to try. I'll get on it.

Gary McCarty

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Quoted message said:

I am getting a bit ahead of the electrolyte replacement season here in Utah, but it is a good time
to start planning for next summer.

Summer before last I started drinking Gatorade on rides based on a discussion here on ARBR. It
worked. On rides of 30 miles and more (especially with climbs involved), I was taking less
Gatorade than water, and it was satisfying more. I was less wasted at the end of a long, hot ride.

Last summer I began to experience some serious nausea when I drank much Gatorade at a time.
Sometimes I get this same type of nausea from eating something really sweet. I wonder if it is the
sugar in Gatorade that my stomach is rebelling against.

Is the energy from Sugar a necessary element of Gatorade or just something to make it more
palatable? Has anyone found an electrolyte replacement drink or solid that does not contain sugar?

Gary McCarty, Greenspeed GTO, Salt Lake City

My experience runs contrary to yours with Gatorade: Drinking Gatorade I have no cramps whatsover.
The times I've run out or not used it are the times I have cramps and feel terrible.

As an alternative try SPIZ, a complete energy, liquid food and electrolyte drin in two flavors
Chocolate and Vanilla. I've used this on long distance almost no sleep endurance rides from 360 to
750 miles. My energy level stays constant and I simply feel "great" the whole time. YMMV and there
are other similar products out there to try.

Experiment, but change only one thing at a time.

slow joe recumbo

Last fall, I remember seeing a German guy named Frank wearing Hammergel arm
warmers jump on his Jester and ride a hundred miles in 233 minutes. Here's
fotos. recumbents.comSub4 2003.htmOpen ↗

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Hi Gary

Having tried many of the energy drinks on the market, I would highly recommend
www.hammergel.com. and their complete line of products.

These guys have done the most research, and have used that research to produce the most
effective products out there IMO. The website also has

the

Quoted message said:

best advice on long distance cycling/running etc. nutrition I've seen.

I have no financial connection with the company. I was a chronic

cramper

Quoted message said:

before using their products, and promised their Dr. Bill Misner that if he could solve my cramping
problem- I would become their best salesman!

On two century rides last fall, I pushed myself so hard trying to

cramp in

Quoted message said:

the last twenty miles it took a month to recover!

Rich

harv said:

Last fall, I remember seeing a German guy named Frank wearing Hammergel arm warmers jump on his
Jester and ride a hundred miles in 233 minutes. Here's fotos. recumbents.comSub4Open ↗
2003.htm

I heard that he could have done better if he had made a relief hole in the seat. 😉

Tom Sherman - 41½ N, 90½ W

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Quoted message said:

I am getting a bit ahead of the electrolyte replacement season here in Utah, but it is a good time
to start planning for next summer.

Summer before last I started drinking Gatorade on rides based on a discussion here on ARBR. It
worked. On rides of 30 miles and more (especially with climbs involved), I was taking less
Gatorade than water, and it was satisfying more. I was less wasted at the end of a long, hot ride.

Last summer I began to experience some serious nausea when I drank much Gatorade at a time.
Sometimes I get this same type of nausea from eating something really sweet. I wonder if it is the
sugar in Gatorade that my stomach is rebelling against.

Is the energy from Sugar a necessary element of Gatorade or just something to make it more
palatable? Has anyone found an electrolyte replacement drink or solid that does not contain sugar?

Gary McCarty, Greenspeed GTO, Salt Lake City

problem with most of these replenishment drinks for most people that are on a low carb diet or are
are wondering why they cant get rid of the aero belly , they are full of sugar. best bet is to find
without sugar or make one your self has no sugar in it , use splenda as the sweetner if u really
need a sweetner, should be pretty easy to concoct your own if your frugal minded .