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animal medical research options

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  1. This animated portrayal of factory farming issues and I guess partly a spoof on The Matrix may be of
    interest to some

    themeatrix.comthemeatrix.com

    Anyway, what movie or music or other celebrities do you know of who strongly support improved
    conditions for animals? In a recent post by me mentioning Sarah McLachlan on alt.gossip.celebrities,alt.showbiz.gossip,alt.music.s-
    mclachlan someone followed up just on her group saying well how can she support both breast cancer
    research and improved conditions for animals, and that in a similar predicament Melissa Etheridge
    removed her support for PETA since it does not like use of animals in any medical research even
    for cancer.

    I said that probably Sarah balances things somehow, you would have to ask her, and that Ms.
    Etheridge probably does not give up all her support for improving conditions for animals, just the
    point that some medical research involving animals may still be unavoidably necessary.

    However I also replied that some options to using live pain-sensitive and aware animals in cancer
    research would be to :

    1. culture cells and even whole organs and test drugs on cancers induced in those

    2. using genome research, we should be able to do computer simulations of the effect of drugs to
    some extent

    3. of course the goal is cures and once we find those there will be no need for animal
    research any more

    4. animals could be genetically engineered to have no pain response, and used as a short term
    measure still

    5. some babies are born effectively without brains and some animals could be genetically engineered
    to similarly have little or no brains (and hopefully no pain response) and used in animal
    research even if they have to be on a little life support.

    What other options have been brought up by PETA members and others on talk.politics.animals ? I
    guess I will do a quick search on groups.google.comgroups.google.com now for group:talk.politics.animals
    cancer but don't have time to go through it and summarize on this thread tonight but maybe one
    of you will.

    David nfld.com~dalton (science, Newfoundland music, mystic stuff)

  2. David Dalton said:

    5. some babies are born effectively without brains and some animals could be genetically
    engineered to similarly have little or no brains (and hopefully no pain response) and used in
    animal research even if they have to be on a little life support.

    But for brain tumour research I guess at least a partial brain would be needed, whether cultured
    cells or otherwise, but ideally without higher functions.

    But nobody is on newsgroups this time of year, I guess.

    I should have set followups just to the first two groups
    talk.politics.animals,sci.med.diseases.cancer but didn't so apologies to any in the veg groups not
    interested in this.

    D.

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