The time has come to retire. My bike, that is. Whilst in the LBS today, they were offering a tire referred to as a 'Dutch' variety, alledged to be puncture resistant. LBS salesperson talked up the seemingly impervious nature of said items, then showed me a sample cross section, which consisted in thicker than usual rubber tread area (still reasonable road-type tread rather than knobbly) with some braid inlay.
Are these worth it? The way they were being sold, they were excellent, but I wondered if anyone had any more experience? Most of my punctures are hawthorn related...
Tim
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"Tim Dunne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
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Hi peeps
The time has come to retire. My bike, that is. Whilst in the LBS today,
they
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were offering a tire referred to as a 'Dutch' variety, alledged to be puncture resistant. LBS salesperson talked up the seemingly impervious nature of said items, then showed me a sample cross section, which
consisted
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in thicker than usual rubber tread area (still reasonable road-type tread rather than knobbly) with some braid inlay.
Are these worth it? The way they were being sold, they were excellent, but
I
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wondered if anyone had any more experience? Most of my punctures are hawthorn related...
In my experience there is no such thing as a puncture proof tyre, if there was, I for one would pay *anything* for it. The Shwalbe Marathon I got a couple of months ago was supposedly "puncture proof" according to the shop, but a drawing pin found its way into the tyre the other day. Probably the best tyres I've had are the Specialized Nimbus and the Vredestein Spider (Dutch). -- Simon Mason Anlaby East Yorkshire. 53°44'N 0°26'W simonmason.karoo.netsimonmason.karoo.netOpen ↗
What about the ones that are full of gooey stuff? I got a new goo filled tube from halfords the other day as they were on special and only 50p more than plain vanilla inner tubes. I couldnt get any air in it sadly so had to go back and swap it for another one the same but without the knackered valve!
One week without a puncture - so they must work, right? Anyone got any good or bad tales to tell of these inner tubes?
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What about the ones that are full of gooey stuff? I got a new goo filled
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from halfords the other day as they were on special and only 50p more than plain vanilla inner tubes. I couldnt get any air in it sadly so had to go
back
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and swap it for another one the same but without the knackered valve!
One week without a puncture - so they must work, right? Anyone got any
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bad tales to tell of these inner tubes?
I've tried them and wasn't much impressed, it was still passing air with only a very small hole. I found it is much better to get the best protected tyres in the first place rather rely on slime tubes. Now I usually go many months with no punctures, my Specialized Nimbus front tyre has never been punctured in over a year. -- Simon Mason Anlaby East Yorkshire. 53°44'N 0°26'W simonmason.karoo.netsimonmason.karoo.netOpen ↗
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Simon Mason wrote: ::: ::: One week without a puncture - so they must work, right? Anyone got any good or bad tales to tell ::: of these inner tubes? :: :: I've tried them and wasn't much impressed, it was still passing air with only a very small hole. :: I found it is much better to get the best protected tyres in the first place rather rely on :: slime tubes. Now I usually go many months with no punctures, my Specialized Nimbus front tyre :: has never been punctured in over a year.
I've had slime filled tubes and found them great, quite effective at sealing small holes and turning what would otherwise have been an instant flat into nothing more than a slow leak that could be repaired at leisure. Sometimes it was less effective than at others - with a large enough hole, and in wet weather, water could enter between the tube and tyre preventing sealing from happening completely, and sometimes it seemed friction between tyre and tube would open up a hole again, but on the whole they worked very well - at least to get-me-home standard where a repair could be effected in warmth and dry.
Now I use a kevalar belt tyre liner instead - this is better for preventing punctures rather than sealing them after they've happened. It's still not puncture proof - they don't prevent pinch-punctures or something going into the sidewall, but those kind of punctures are quite rare IME. My current front tyre, a 1" skinny treadless slick is mess of slashes and gashes with the tyre liner visible in some places through the gaps - but the tube has remained unpunctured. So I have no hesitation in saying such measures can work to substantially reduce the numbers of punctures you get and the inconvenience of them.
What about the ones that are full of gooey stuff? I got a new goo filled tube from halfords the other day as they were on special and only 50p more than plain vanilla inner tubes. I couldnt get any air in it sadly so had to go back and swap it for another one the same but without the knackered valve!
One week without a puncture - so they must work, right? Anyone got any good or bad tales to tell of these inner tubes?
RC
Has anyone here ever tried to repair slime tubes? I tried once and the goo kept on seeping out of the hole so I couldnt get a clean surface for the patch. not worth the bother -get some good tyres and take a spare tube with you. I havent had a pucture now for the last 2 years and 3000 plus miles
Specialized Aramadillo tyres are by far the best I've come across with Panaracer a close second. www.wiggle.co.uk do good offers .
Since using them the only puctures I have had are due to rim tape problems. I used to get one a week on average on my daily commute.
"Tim Dunne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
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Hi peeps
The time has come to retire. My bike, that is. Whilst in the LBS today,
they
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were offering a tire referred to as a 'Dutch' variety, alledged to be puncture resistant. LBS salesperson talked up the seemingly impervious nature of said items, then showed me a sample cross section, which
consisted
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in thicker than usual rubber tread area (still reasonable road-type tread rather than knobbly) with some braid inlay.
Are these worth it? The way they were being sold, they were excellent, but
I
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wondered if anyone had any more experience? Most of my punctures are hawthorn related...
Tim
-- Sent from Brum, UK... ...scheduled completion Sept 2003 'God's electrician sparked up the heavens once again, heading northbound on the 7:10. And the lord said let there be commuters...' - Thea Gilmore Look, mum, an anorak on a bike! Check out www.nervouscyclist.org
Specialized Aramadillo tyres are by far the best I've come across ...
I have one of these and, whilst it has not punctured (over 6 months) I find it doesn't grip very well in the wet. When it wears out I'll probably go back to the infamous Conti Top Touring or Schwalbe Marathons (these don't puncture much and grip better).
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<<Specialized Nimbus front tyre has never been punctured in over a year.>>
Is that kevlar? I once had a kevlar tyre but got a drawing pin straight
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it so was disappointed - I had been led to believe it was totally puncture proof.
No, I think the main thing is that it's on the front wheel, most of my punctures are rear wheel only. A rear wheel Nimbus got a puncture fairly quickly.
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How much would a Nimbus be (assuming you can get em for 27" wheels) ?
In my experience there is no such thing as a puncture proof tyre, if there was, I for one would pay *anything* for it.
If you mean that you could pay for a team car to follow you around with spare wheels. :-)
Yesterday I had a very curious incident. I flatted not 400 yards from home having ridden 70 miles - not in itself remarkable, but when I got home I found a snakebite puncture (rather surprising since I fully inflated the tyre that morning) _and_ a broken spoke causing the brakes to rub - I could hardly have broken the spoke beforehand, I would have noticed; but equally I can hardly believe that the spoke broke from being walked home. -- David Damerell <[email hidden]> flcl?
Is that kevlar? I once had a kevlar tyre but got a drawing pin straight through it so was disappointed - I had been led to believe it was totally puncture proof.
Of course it's not. Sharp objects often either go through the weave or cut the kevlar belt. A drawing pin will normally go through any bicycle tyre with tread shallower than the pin. It's riduculous to expect tyres to be drawing pin proof. It's not as if cyclists run over a lot of them. A truly puncture proof tyre would be dreadful to ride (including Airfree tyres*).
For the time being at least, cyclists should just accept that they may get the occasional puncture. Be prepared with all the right gear, techniques and time for fixing them, then they won't be a nightmare. If tyres are a struggle to fit, use different tyres (perhaps try them on in a bike shop first?). This makes a massive difference to how much of a pain punctures are.
* This was the strong impression I was left with after reading a long detailed review from one of their fans!
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and time for fixing them, then they won't be a nightmare.
Yup. I've got kevlar banded Schwalbe Marathons, and though I don't get=20 *many* punctures, I got a rear one yesterday. Back wheel has a quick=20 release, so easy to remove once I'd unhooked the middle of the V brake,=20 Park tyre levers (=A32 for 3) made short work of removing the tyre, new=20 tube in after checking nothing was still poking through the tyre, tyre=20 back on the rim, wheel back on the bike, pump it up. All done in a few=20 minutes, and I found and repaired the hole in the original tube when I=20 was back at home, not holding anyone else up.
Pete. --=20 Peter Clinch University of Dundee Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Medical Physics, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net [email hidden] dundee.ac.uk~pjclinchOpen ↗
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Specialized Aramadillo tyres are by far the best I've come across with
Ack! I had a pair of Specialized Hemisphere EX Armadillos. Within 6 months the side walls had cracked to bits :-(
-- brian (no longer a Specialized tyre fan)
I've been using my Hemispheres for the last year without any problem, still get punctures every now and then but they are from slivers of glass, nails big sharp flint etc.
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8<... my enquiry about puncture proof tires
Thanks for help, all. I'm going to give them a go - my tires are currently dire, and the situation can't get any worse than it is now.
Thanks for your input,
Tim -- Sent from Brum, UK... ...scheduled completion Sept 2003 'What's keeping the White House white? Is it chalk, is it fog, is it fear?' Steve Skaith, 'America For Beginners' Look, mum, an anorak on a bike! Check out www.nervouscyclist.org
