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  1. iht.com121331.html

  2. "Robert Chung" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    iht.com121331.html

    I think that he could get enough training by flying up to Colorado and putting the hurt on him in
    the really big mountains. There isn't anything like the Rockies in Europe.

    Time for the guys that are [censored] at him to lend a hand. Bring in Kevin and Vaughters

  3. Good for him. Don't think he's got anything left to prove in the Tour and he won't ever be able to
    make up the time away from his kids... sounds like the guy might be wising up... it might actually
    help him to take some of the pressure off... could be a good thing.

    - Chris - customgetaways.comcustomgetaways.com Sport Vacations (Multisport, Cycling,
    Marathons, etc...)

  4. Robert Chung said:

    iht.com121331.html

    "He had been in Paris for two days with his companion, the singer Sheryl Crow, who gave a concert
    there and one in Brussels on Friday. She was with him on the train.

    'If you choose to have a friendship, a relationship with somebody famous,' he said later, 'you lose
    some privacy, but that's a choice you make. I don't intend to be a recluse.'"

    --
    --
    Lynn Wallace xmission.com~lawall
    "We should not march into Baghdad. ... Assigning young soldiers to
    a fruitless hunt for a securely entrenched dictator and condemning
    them to fight in what would be an unwinnable urban guerilla war, it
    could only plunge that part of the world into ever greater
    instability." George Bush Sr. in his 1998 book "A World Transformed"

  5. Raptor said:
    Robert Chung said:

    iht.com121331.html

    "He had been in Paris for two days with his companion, the singer Sheryl Crow, who gave a concert
    there and one in Brussels on Friday. She was with him on the train.

    'If you choose to have a friendship, a relationship with somebody famous,' he said later, 'you
    lose some privacy, but that's a choice you make. I don't intend to be a recluse.'"

    And then I read on Belgian teletext that she even attended the press conference, more or less hidden
    in the back of the room. He was at the concert. She says he's "a fan".

  6. I said:
    Raptor said:
    Robert Chung said:

    iht.com121331.html

    "He had been in Paris for two days with his companion, the singer Sheryl Crow, who gave a concert
    there and one in Brussels on Friday. She was with him on the train.

    'If you choose to have a friendship, a relationship with somebody famous,' he said later, 'you
    lose some privacy, but that's a choice you make. I don't intend to be a recluse.'"

    And then I read on Belgian teletext that she even attended the press conference, more or less
    hidden in the back of the room. He was at the concert. She says he's "a fan".

    Some links: procycling.comnews main.asp (wow, that's old already, hadn't
    seen it (because I never visit the site)) stltoday.comDeb+
    Peterson/AF1BCB648264049C86256DFA0019058C?OpenDocument&Headline=Would+you+take+Bill+Haas'+advice+on-
    +dating%3F+RFT+eyes+publishing+it

  7. sheryl crow = lose the tour

    why would he choose a chain smoking skank?

  8. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (SS29MTB) said:

    why would he choose a chain smoking skank?

    lets see what your girlfriend looks like at 41

  9. A bit of complicity between LA and Apt no doubt in "officially" bringing the personal stuff into
    the public domain. The two must know each other reasonably well by now. Too much Apt acting as
    press agent.

    "Raptor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Robert Chung said:

    iht.com121331.html

    "He had been in Paris for two days with his companion, the singer Sheryl Crow, who gave a concert
    there and one in Brussels on Friday. She was with him on the train.

    'If you choose to have a friendship, a relationship with somebody famous,' he said later, 'you
    lose some privacy, but that's a choice you make. I don't intend to be a recluse.'"

    --
    --
    Lynn Wallace xmission.com~lawall "We should not march into Baghdad. ... Assigning
    young soldiers to a fruitless hunt for a securely entrenched dictator and condemning them to fight
    in what would be an unwinnable urban guerilla war, it could only plunge that part of the world
    into ever greater instability." George Bush Sr. in his 1998 book "A World Transformed"

  10. "SS29MTB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    sheryl crow = lose the tour

    why would he choose a chain smoking skank?

    Does she smoke? Didn't know that. I know she's a runner, though.

  11. There is a picture of her smoking in Vanity Fair magazine, Jun. '03,

    Remember however in Lance's first book he points out after his wedding that he and his wife enjoyed
    smoking cigars so he may not be opposed to smoking. I would be relatively certain he doesn't do it
    on a frequent basis and my understanding is Sheryl Crow has become somewhat of a fitness freak, so
    she may have moderated her smoking.

    p. 138On Tue said:


    "SS29MTB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    sheryl crow = lose the tour

    why would he choose a chain smoking skank?

    Does she smoke? Didn't know that. I know she's a runner, though.

  12. "Heinz Getzler" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Lances decision to train in the US could be the potential [censored]


    that

    Quoted message said:

    Jan is waiting for. Lances decision to race less in the spring


    season

    Quoted message said:

    could really hurt his potential to win a sixth tdf. It will be very interesting to see what Lances
    spring form is.......???

    Personally I think that he could get in much better shape here in the BIG mountains. None of those
    puny little Alps for us. Rocky Mountains or nothing sucker!

    But I think that you're right. Not racing in Europe is asking to lose.

  13. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by Tom Kunich


    Personally I think that he could get in much better shape here in the BIG mountains. None of those
    puny little Alps for us. Rocky Mountains or nothing sucker!

    But I think that you're right. Not racing in Europe is asking to lose.

    It could work. He has the time and space to set his own rythm.

    And well *ducks for oncoming projectiles* as we all know Aerica has a great tradition of dope-testing it's greatest ones preparations.... As in: we don't or we will at least keep quiet.

    I am actually convinced this is how a lot of great athletes return after injury/mishap. You have all the time to preparate your body.

    Erik Dekker became a hotshot after a year suspension, Ulrich came back fit as ever... there are more examples, also from other sports.

  14. "Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "Heinz Getzler" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Lances decision to train in the US could be the potential [censored]


    that

    Quoted message said:

    Jan is waiting for. Lances decision to race less in the spring


    season

    Quoted message said:

    could really hurt his potential to win a sixth tdf. It will be very interesting to see what
    Lances spring form is.......???

    Personally I think that he could get in much better shape here in the BIG mountains. None of those
    puny little Alps for us. Rocky Mountains or nothing sucker!

    But I think that you're right. Not racing in Europe is asking to lose.

    I recall seeing a website that listed many of the toughest climbs, w/ rankings, etc... Surely
    someone else on the group knows where it is.

    Anyway, as I recall, the climbs in Colorado didn't rate all that highly. Seems that most of the
    paved roads just aren't that steep. The main thing making them tough is that they are at a greater
    altitude than the typical climb in Europe.

    If Armstrong comes to the Rockies to climb, won't he be violating the concept of train low,
    live high???

    S.

  15. Tuschinski <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Tom Kunich said:

    Personally I think that he could get in much better shape here in the BIG mountains. None of
    those puny little Alps for us. Rocky Mountains or nothing sucker! But I think that you're
    right. Not racing in Europe is asking to lose.

    It could work. He has the time and space to set his own rythm.

    And well *ducks for oncoming projectiles* as we all know Aerica has a great tradition of dope-
    testing it's greatest ones preparations.... As in: we don't or we will at least keep quiet.

    I am actually convinced this is how a lot of great athletes return after injury/mishap. You have
    all the time to preparate your body.

    Erik Dekker became a hotshot after a year suspension, Ulrich came back fit as ever... there are
    more examples, also from other sports.


    Well the big problem is that rider is not able to accurately benchmark his progress against other
    riders. Plus it's hard to match the level of intensity in racing. The other problem is that by the
    time you realize that your form is inadequate you may not have adequate traing time to bring
    yourself up to the proper level. Usually it takes about 1 or 2 months for a rider bring himself up
    to a new level of form....

    Quoted message said:

    --

  16. "Heinz Getzler" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Well the big problem is that rider is not able to accurately


    benchmark

    Quoted message said:

    his progress against other riders. Plus it's hard to match the level of intensity in racing. The
    other problem is that by the time you realize that your form is inadequate you may not have
    adequate


    traing

    Quoted message said:

    time to bring yourself up to the proper level. Usually it takes


    about

    Quoted message said:

    1 or 2 months for a rider bring himself up to a new level of


    form....

    I think that Armstrong is the exception that makes the rule that training miles can't be as hard as
    racing miles.

  17. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by Tom Kunich


    I think that Armstrong is the exception that makes the rule that training miles can't be as hard as
    racing miles.

    I kinda doubt that he is the only exception.... I am sure Racing-Rythm needs to be built up, but there are too many examples of Racers cometing to the top spots after a forced pause.

    Training out of comp can be planned, that is a tad harder with racing/training (can be done, I know). For someone as experienced as Lance he doesn't really need much racing to hone his skills. In a way he doesn't have to be as sharp as one-day success people, he just needs to be as efficient as possible in the flat stages and punch hard at the TT and climbs.

  18. "Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "Heinz Getzler" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Well the big problem is that rider is not able to accurately


    benchmark

    Quoted message said:

    his progress against other riders. Plus it's hard to match the level of intensity in racing. The
    other problem is that by the time you realize that your form is inadequate you may not have
    adequate


    traing

    Quoted message said:

    time to bring yourself up to the proper level. Usually it takes


    about

    Quoted message said:

    1 or 2 months for a rider bring himself up to a new level of


    form....

    I think that Armstrong is the exception that makes the rule that training miles can't be as hard
    as racing miles.

    Plus, with the advent of effective, scientific training and the glut of power measurement tools,
    racing isn't necessarily the best training anymore. There's something to be said for very specific
    interval training. And, don't discount the Carmichel factor.

  19. [email hidden] (Scott Hendricks) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "Heinz Getzler" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Well the big problem is that rider is not able to accurately


    benchmark

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    his progress against other riders. Plus it's hard to match the level of intensity in racing.
    The other problem is that by the time you realize that your form is inadequate you may not
    have adequate


    traing

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    time to bring yourself up to the proper level. Usually it takes


    about

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    1 or 2 months for a rider bring himself up to a new level of


    form....

    I think that Armstrong is the exception that makes the rule that training miles can't be as hard
    as racing miles.

    Plus, with the advent of effective, scientific training and the glut of power measurement tools,
    racing isn't necessarily the best training anymore. There's something to be said for very specific
    interval training. And, don't discount the Carmichel factor.

    Training is a big factor, but I still maintain it's hard to benchmark ones condition against other
    riders unless you are actually racing. For example it's very hard to tell quantifably just how a
    rider is doing in the Giro without actually riding there.

  20. In article <[email hidden]>, Heinz

    Getzler said:

    [email hidden] (Scott Hendricks) wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "Heinz Getzler" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...
    >
    > Well the big problem is that rider is not able to accurately


    benchmark

    Quoted message said:

    > his progress against other riders. Plus it's hard to match the level of intensity in racing.
    > The other problem is that by the time you realize that your form is inadequate you may not
    > have adequate


    traing

    Quoted message said:

    > time to bring yourself up to the proper level. Usually it takes


    about

    Quoted message said:

    > 1 or 2 months for a rider bring himself up to a new level of
    form....

    I think that Armstrong is the exception that makes the rule that training miles can't be as
    hard as racing miles.

    Plus, with the advent of effective, scientific training and the glut of power measurement tools,
    racing isn't necessarily the best training anymore. There's something to be said for very
    specific interval training. And, don't discount the Carmichel factor.

    Training is a big factor, but I still maintain it's hard to benchmark ones condition against other
    riders unless you are actually racing.

    The ability of the riders doesn't really change a lot from year to year. Lance knows how much power
    he needs to put out for various efforts and can adjust his training accordingly. Racing is good for
    some things but when you're supermotivated it's not the only thing you can do.

    -WG

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