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Zefal HPX ASV Pump and Presta Valves

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  1. After the previous thread on frame fit pumps that can be installed
    under the top tube using a pump peg, I got myself a brand new Zefal
    HPX-4 pump with the ASV (Auto Select Valve) feature.

    Out of the box, it seems to work fine with my Presta valves. I just
    press the head onto the valve with the thumblock lever parallel to the
    pump. Then I flip the thumblock perpendicular to the pump and start
    pumping. I can get ~100 psi without too much trouble.

    I've read several reviews online that say Presta users should open the
    pump head and flip a plastic piece around to improve performance. Some
    even say the pump won't work at all with Presta valves if this isn't
    done.

    What experiences have others had with this pump and Presta valves?
    Will I get easier pumping if I do the flip?

    Thanks,
    Art Harris

  2. "Art Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    I've read several reviews online that say Presta users should open the
    pump head and flip a plastic piece around to improve performance. Some
    even say the pump won't work at all with Presta valves if this isn't
    done.

    This takes a minute and has been necessary for decades. It isn't much
    trouble and medium to high value Presta valve bikes aren't that common
    anyway.

    Quoted message said:

    What experiences have others had with this pump and Presta valves?
    Will I get easier pumping if I do the flip?

    You cannot fit the pressure head over a Presta valve unless you flip the
    seal. You also have to flip the Presta valve pin which pushes in the Presta
    valve head so that you don't have to pump against the spring pressure as
    well.

  3. "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote in message
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    "Art Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    I've read several reviews online that say Presta users should open the
    pump head and flip a plastic piece around to improve performance. Some
    even say the pump won't work at all with Presta valves if this isn't
    done.

    This takes a minute and has been necessary for decades. It isn't much
    trouble and medium to high value Presta valve bikes aren't that common
    anyway.

    Quoted message said:

    What experiences have others had with this pump and Presta valves?
    Will I get easier pumping if I do the flip?

    You cannot fit the pressure head over a Presta valve unless you flip the
    seal. You also have to flip the Presta valve pin which pushes in the
    Presta valve head so that you don't have to pump against the spring
    pressure as well.


    Hi Tom,
    Did you mean Schrader wherever you wrote Presta?
    Thanks,
    Kerry

  4. Art Harris said:

    After the previous thread on frame fit pumps that can be installed
    under the top tube using a pump peg, I got myself a brand new Zefal
    HPX-4 pump with the ASV (Auto Select Valve) feature.

    Out of the box, it seems to work fine with my Presta valves. I just
    press the head onto the valve with the thumblock lever parallel to the
    pump. Then I flip the thumblock perpendicular to the pump and start
    pumping. I can get ~100 psi without too much trouble.

    I've read several reviews online that say Presta users should open the
    pump head and flip a plastic piece around to improve performance. Some
    even say the pump won't work at all with Presta valves if this isn't
    done.

    What experiences have others had with this pump and Presta valves?
    Will I get easier pumping if I do the flip?

    Older versions of Zefal pumps came in either Schrader
    or Presta versions. Then they made a version where
    you can convert it between Schrader and Presta by
    unscrewing the chuck cover and flipping around
    the rubber chuck and plastic pin (the pin is needed to
    depress the Schrader check valve). Now, I guess, they
    make a version that auto converts somehow, and
    that's what you have. The Zefal HPx has been around
    for at least 20 years, I think, so it's no surprise that
    reviews are outdated.

    Your pump works on a Presta valve, so the reviews that
    say it won't work unless you flip the piece around are
    clearly inapplicable, so, excuse me for asking, why are
    you stressing about what some random internet review
    says? This is not rocket pump science. Generally,
    a pump either seals on the valve and gets air into the
    tire, or it doesn't. The issue with the HPx is that you're
    supposed to remember to turn the end cap from X to HP
    when pumping so you don't have to push against the
    spring. Which is in the instructions, I believe.

    Ben

  5. "Kerry Montgomery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Hi Tom,
    Did you mean Schrader wherever you wrote Presta?

    DUHHHHHH - of course, thanks for the correction.

  6. Ben said:

    Older versions of Zefal pumps came in either Schrader
    or Presta versions.  Then they made a version where
    you can convert it between Schrader and Presta by
    unscrewing the chuck cover and flipping around
    the rubber chuck and plastic pin (the pin is needed to
    depress the Schrader check valve).  Now, I guess, they
    make a version that auto converts somehow, and
    that's what you have.  The Zefal HPx has been around
    for at least 20 years, I think, so it's no surprise that
    reviews are outdated.

    No, the reviews I'm referring to are for the current "ASV" version.
    And from people who post here and who I respect.

    http://www.amazon.com/review/product/B000A7W2WC/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?%5Fencoding=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

    I've been using the old style HP pumps for decades, and am familiar
    with having to configure them for either Schrader or Presta valves.
    That's why I'm curious why some folks think the new "automatic"
    version needs to have the chuck reversed.

    Art Harris

  7. "Art Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    I've been using the old style HP pumps for decades, and am familiar
    with having to configure them for either Schrader or Presta valves.
    That's why I'm curious why some folks think the new "automatic"
    version needs to have the chuck reversed.

    Hmm, I've bought HP pumps within the last year that worked exactly the same
    as they have since the dawn of time.

  8. Tom Kunich said:

    Hmm, I've bought HP pumps within the last year that worked exactly the same
    as they have since the dawn of time.

    This is the new version:

    http://tinyurl.com/6fkpqo

    Art Harris

  9. Art Harris said:
    Ben said:

    Older versions of Zefal pumps came in either Schrader
    or Presta versions.  Then they made a version where
    you can convert it between Schrader and Presta by
    unscrewing the chuck cover and flipping around
    the rubber chuck and plastic pin (the pin is needed to
    depress the Schrader check valve).  Now, I guess, they
    make a version that auto converts somehow, and
    that's what you have.  The Zefal HPx has been around
    for at least 20 years, I think, so it's no surprise that
    reviews are outdated.

    No, the reviews I'm referring to are for the current "ASV" version.
    And from people who post here and who I respect.

    http://www.amazon.com/review/product/B000A7W2WC/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_...

    I've been using the old style HP pumps for decades, and am familiar
    with having to configure them for either Schrader or Presta valves.
    That's why I'm curious why some folks think the new "automatic"
    version needs to have the chuck reversed.

    I see that I was wrong and they may have managed
    to improve it downward. It sounds like you're the only
    one here with the new version, and since you're
    familiar with the old version, I expect you can take it
    apart and put it back together without difficulty.
    So it's probably up to you to figure out whether this
    mod still reconfigures it for Presta.

    I don't own any pumps that automagically reconfigure
    Schrader/Presta. I do have two pumps that have a
    twinhead with opposite Schrader/Presta chucks, which
    is convenient, and I don't really see how automatic
    heads are an improvement on that. But they haven't
    been asking me.

    Ben

  10. "Art Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Tom Kunich said:

    Hmm, I've bought HP pumps within the last year that worked exactly the
    same
    as they have since the dawn of time.

    This is the new version:

    http://tinyurl.com/6fkpqo

    Thanks Art. Sure enough - I've never seen that before.

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