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Rough old Record hub

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  1. I have a 30-ish year old Record hub that recently broke an axle.
    After reassembly (all old parts except the axle), it rolls a bit
    crustily: spins plenty long but when holding the axle in hand, some
    vibration is noticeable. The cups and cones don't have any really
    visible or palpable deformities, but I'm fairly sure if the cups were
    brinnelled that badly, the vibration would be worse.

    Not sure if that is actually a recent development, since I hadn't had
    the wheel off in roughly forever. This bike typically just gets a
    dozen or so 11 mile commutes per year. Is this something that really
    needs to be attended to, or will it grind away without any dramatic
    failures for a while? Other than replacing the balls, what could be
    done?

    Mike

  2. mx said:

    I have a 30-ish year old Record hub that recently broke an axle.
    After reassembly (all old parts except the axle), it rolls a bit
    crustily: spins plenty long but when holding the axle in hand, some
    vibration is noticeable.  The cups and cones don't have any really
    visible or palpable deformities, but I'm fairly sure if the cups were
    brinnelled that badly, the vibration would be worse.

    Not sure if that is actually a recent development, since I hadn't had
    the wheel off in roughly forever.  This bike typically just gets a
    dozen or so 11 mile commutes per year.  Is this something that really
    needs to be attended to, or will it grind away without any dramatic
    failures for a while?  Other than replacing the balls, what could be
    done?

    Mike

    I suspect you have some pitting on the cones. Any decent bike shop
    that 'qui si parla Casmpagnolo' will have replacements. New bearing
    balls(1/4 inch), grease, adjust well.

  3. mx said:

    I have a 30-ish year old Record hub that recently broke an axle.
    After reassembly (all old parts except the axle), it rolls a bit
    crustily: spins plenty long but when holding the axle in hand, some
    vibration is noticeable. The cups and cones don't have any really
    visible or palpable deformities, but I'm fairly sure if the cups were
    brinnelled that badly, the vibration would be worse.

    Not sure if that is actually a recent development, since I hadn't had
    the wheel off in roughly forever. This bike typically just gets a
    dozen or so 11 mile commutes per year. Is this something that really
    needs to be attended to, or will it grind away without any dramatic
    failures for a while? Other than replacing the balls, what could be
    done?

    Assuming you cleaned it thoroughly and changed the bearings on rebuild,
    it's either adjusted improperly or there is wear on cone(s) or cup(s).

    p.s. it is not brinelling, it's spalling - erosion not impact.
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    <www.yellowjersey.org/>
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971
    ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

  4. mx said:

    This bike typically just gets a
    dozen or so 11 mile commutes per year. Is this something that really
    needs to be attended to, or will it grind away without any dramatic
    failures for a while?

    I've ridden very rough hubs for years - it's slower but I don't think
    anything terrible will happen.


  5. Quoted message said:

    Assuming you cleaned it thoroughly and changed the bearings on rebuild,

    Cleaned yes, replaced balls no.

    Quoted message said:

    it's either adjusted improperly

    quite possible, but while I got it too tight at one point, it now
    turns very freely but I can't detect any slop. My slop-detector is
    probably not very well-calibrated, since I don't do this very much.
    I'm more confident in my ability to lace up a wheel than adjust a
    bearing.

  6. On Jun 7, 8:34 am, John Forrest Tomlinson <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    I've ridden very rough hubs for years - it's slower but I don't think
    anything terrible will happen.

    That was the right answer! If it's correct, so much the better. ;->

  7. "mx" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Assuming you cleaned it thoroughly and changed the bearings on rebuild,

    Cleaned yes, replaced balls no.

    Quoted message said:

    it's either adjusted improperly

    quite possible, but while I got it too tight at one point, it now
    turns very freely but I can't detect any slop. My slop-detector is
    probably not very well-calibrated, since I don't do this very much.
    I'm more confident in my ability to lace up a wheel than adjust a
    bearing.

    Psst - don't tell anyone but new races even from Campy feel slightly rough
    until they've run in a bit.

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    <[email hidden]>,

    mx said:
    Quoted message said:

    Assuming you cleaned it thoroughly and changed the bearings on rebuild,

    Cleaned yes, replaced balls no.

    Replace the bearing balls with grade 25 balls. No reason
    not to replace the bearing balls when repacking unless
    you repack every week. The cones require good adjustment.
    A little too tight or loose is bad. Furthermore, quick
    release pressure changes cone adjustment enough to matter.
    It is not difficult but cone adjustment can require
    successive approximations to get right.

    --
    Michael Press

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