I have a Motobecane Team Champion from the late 70s from which all the decals were removed early on, except for "Team Champion" on the top tube. The lettering in the original decals was dark blue, not black; I think the chances of finding matching NOS decals are nil.
On the web and usenet, I find many references to people making repro decals, both traditioal wet transfer and viny.. Or at least, people who used to do this - the one thing I cannot find is an actual current source of reproduction decals. All the links I find are dead, all the trails have gone cold.
Does anyone have any current source of repro decals?
I have a Motobecane Team Champion from the late 70s from which all the decals were removed early on, except for "Team Champion" on the top tube. The lettering in the original decals was dark blue, not black; I think the chances of finding matching NOS decals are nil.
On the web and usenet, I find many references to people making repro decals, both traditioal wet transfer and viny.. Or at least, people who used to do this - the one thing I cannot find is an actual current source of reproduction decals. All the links I find are dead, all the trails have gone cold.
Does anyone have any current source of repro decals?
I have a Motobecane Team Champion from the late 70s from which all the decals were removed early on, except for "Team Champion" on the top tube. The lettering in the original decals was dark blue, not black; I think the chances of finding matching NOS decals are nil.
On the web and usenet, I find many references to people making repro decals, both traditioal wet transfer and viny.. Or at least, people who used to do this - the one thing I cannot find is an actual current source of reproduction decals. All the links I find are dead, all the trails have gone cold.
Does anyone have any current source of repro decals?
Yes, Greg is the way to go. He also lists on Ebay but mostly in his store now.
If he does not list what you want, he will often make it for you if you work with him to figure out the specifics.
And just because you don't see what you want in his store doesn't mean that he doesn't have the appropriate art filed away someplace from which to make a set of decals.
I have a Motobecane Team Champion from the late 70s from which all the decals were removed early on, except for "Team Champion" on the top tube. The lettering in the original decals was dark blue, not black; I think the chances of finding matching NOS decals are nil.
On the web and usenet, I find many references to people making repro decals, both traditioal wet transfer and viny.. Or at least, people who used to do this - the one thing I cannot find is an actual current source of reproduction decals. All the links I find are dead, all the trails have gone cold.
Does anyone have any current source of repro decals?
If you have the time and patience you can make your own using an inkjet printer or color photocopier: <http://www.lazertran.com/>
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I have a Motobecane Team Champion from the late 70s from which all the decals were removed early on, except for "Team Champion" on the top tube. The lettering in the original decals was dark blue, not black; I think the chances of finding matching NOS decals are nil.
On the web and usenet, I find many references to people making repro decals, both traditioal wet transfer and viny.. Or at least, people who used to do this - the one thing I cannot find is an actual current source of reproduction decals. All the links I find are dead, all the trails have gone cold.
Does anyone have any current source of repro decals?
If you have the time and patience you can make your own using an inkjet printer or color photocopier: <http://www.lazertran.com/>
cheers, 20cents
Time may be a problem with the inkjet ones - most color inkjet ink is made with dyes that will fade over time, especially with exposure to sunlight. Most color laser toner is made with pigments, and is much more stable. Kerry
Any local commercial graphics house can do this for you on acetate film. -- Andrew Muzi <www.yellowjersey.org/> Open every day since 1 April, 1971 ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**
That would be true, if I had originals as a reference - unfortunately I do not. I also expect a graphics shop would charge quite a bit for a one-off like this. Others have suggested doing them myself but I've seen firsthand how badly typcal inkjet prints fade.Looks like there's no simple answer to this one...
Any local commercial graphics house can do this for you on acetate film. -- Andrew Muzi <www.yellowjersey.org/> Open every day since 1 April, 1971 ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**
That would be true, if I had originals as a reference - unfortunately I do not. I also expect a graphics shop would charge quite a bit for a one-off like this. Others have suggested doing them myself but I've seen firsthand how badly typcal inkjet prints fade.Looks like there's no simple answer to this one...
Try this email address: [email hidden] (replace the DOT with a "."😉 Greg is a little slow to reply some times but he is a great guy to work with.
In a test of inkjet inks, most were found to fade in about 5 years. Epson's pigmented inks were good for about 90 years.
That said, I'd still go with Greg's work. He already has most Motobecane decals from that era worked out. Since he has the font, churning out what you need should not be difficult.
Any local commercial graphics house can do this for you on acetate film. -- Andrew Muzi <www.yellowjersey.org/> Open every day since 1 April, 1971 ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**
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That would be true, if I had originals as a reference - unfortunately I do not. I also expect a graphics shop would charge quite a bit for a one-off like this. Others have suggested doing them myself but I've seen firsthand how badly typcal inkjet prints fade.Looks like there's no simple answer to this one...
Try this email address: [email hidden] (replace the DOT with a "."😉 Greg is a little slow to reply some times but he is a great guy to work with.
In a test of inkjet inks, most were found to fade in about 5 years. Epson's pigmented inks were good for about 90 years.
That said, I'd still go with Greg's work. He already has most Motobecane decals from that era worked out. Since he has the font, churning out what you need should not be difficult.
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Try this email address: [email hidden] (replace the DOT with a "."😉 Greg is a little slow to reply some times but he is a great guy to work with.
I've tried several permutations of that address but they bounced. I understand the part about replacing the 'DOT' but what's with the three periods before the '@'?
I've tried several permutations of that address but they bounced. I understand the part about replacing the 'DOT' but what's with the three periods before the '@'?
Googlegroups disguises the address to prevent automated address harvesting from newsgroup posts. If you were using a different newsreader you would see:
Ok I emaied gtsoffley and let's just say - he is not able to help. Does anyone know of any other source of reprodecals?
hi, i provide decals. I and repro decals for you...i use inkjet but i also use a transparent layer over the printed vinyl, then using my professional plotter to cut the contour of the sticker making it look very professional. I'm also on ebay and if you want to contact me you can reach me at my Blogger...