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Optimal Rim Width for Tire Size

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  1. Okay, I have seen the chart on Sheldon Brown's web site. I have
    followed the link on his site back to his source for the chart:

    tandem-fahren.deindex.html

    I am curious about the source of the data used to generate these charts. I suspect that the data was
    generated from 4-wheeled vehicles where the tires are maintained normal to the road surface and
    where side loads are significant.

    I am revisiting this topic because I have just order a new bike. It is more of a free-ride style
    frame with 5 inches (125 mm) travel front and rear. Depending on the build, it either comes with
    rims that are classified as light-weight cross country or rims in the downhill class.

    The width of the XC rims (the inside dimension, between the "hooks" on the rim, is about 16 mm.
    According to the chart, proper tires for this rim should range in width from about 25 to 35 mm (1 to
    1.4 inches); however, the bike comes with tires that are 2.25 inches wide!

    As Sheldon states...

    "In the interest of weight saving, most current mountain bikes have excessively narrow rims.
    Unfortunately, current mountain-bike fashion pushes the edge of this. Such narrow rims work very
    poorly with wide tires, unless the tires are overinflated... but that defeats the purpose of wide
    tires, and puts undue stress on the rim sidewalls."

    The other factory option is a downhill rim which has a width of about 33 mm. While this rim width
    is off Sheldon's chart, extrapolation of the data would indicate that the rim is ideal for tires
    from 2.4 to
    3.1 inches wide. Seems reasonable to me.

    Surely, bicycle tire manufacturers must have a rim width (or range) in mind when they design a tire.
    But neither tire manufactures or rim manufactures make this data readily available.

    Maybe the better wheelbuilders have the data.

    For now, I will get the wheelset with the narrow rims and keep them for my commuter bike (high
    pressure tires). I have a free-ride wheelset with 31mm rims that should be great for the 2.25 inch
    tires, even at low pressure.

  2. HKEK said:

    Okay, I have seen the chart on Sheldon Brown's web site. I have followed the link on his site back
    to his source for the chart:

    tandem-fahren.deindex.html

    I am curious about the source of the data used to generate these charts. I suspect that the data
    was generated from 4-wheeled vehicles where the tires are maintained normal to the road surface
    and where side loads are significant.

    I am revisiting this topic because I have just order a new bike. It is more of a free-ride style
    frame with 5 inches (125 mm) travel front and rear. Depending on the build, it either comes with
    rims that are classified as light-weight cross country or rims in the downhill class.

    The width of the XC rims (the inside dimension, between the "hooks" on the rim, is about 16 mm.
    According to the chart, proper tires for this rim should range in width from about 25 to 35 mm (1
    to 1.4 inches); however, the bike comes with tires that are 2.25 inches wide!

    As Sheldon states...

    "In the interest of weight saving, most current mountain bikes have excessively narrow rims.
    Unfortunately, current mountain-bike fashion pushes the edge of this. Such narrow rims work very
    poorly with wide tires, unless the tires are overinflated... but that defeats the purpose of wide
    tires, and puts undue stress on the rim sidewalls."

    The other factory option is a downhill rim which has a width of about 33 mm. While this rim width
    is off Sheldon's chart, extrapolation of the data would indicate that the rim is ideal for tires
    from 2.4 to
    3.1 inches wide. Seems reasonable to me.

    Surely, bicycle tire manufacturers must have a rim width (or range) in mind when they design a
    tire. But neither tire manufactures or rim manufactures make this data readily available.

    Maybe the better wheelbuilders have the data.

    For now, I will get the wheelset with the narrow rims and keep them for my commuter bike (high
    pressure tires). I have a free-ride wheelset with 31mm rims that should be great for the 2.25 inch
    tires, even at low pressure.

    Mountain bikes aren't really "optimised" for anything in particular. They're necessarily a
    compromise because they're going to be roughly treated, but they can't get too heavy. A big air
    volume and the ability to keep the rim away from rocks are the important factors here.

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